Grape God Grow Journal

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SSHZ

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As we know, there are basically 2 pheno's- with most of the plants ending up somewhere in between the extremes. Although the pic's don't show it, there are a number of plants that are all indica- thick, dense already and shorter. You are seeing a lot of the "taller" sativa leaning pheno with spear shaped buds and not as dense. This time it seems I got way more of this pheno. They have 2 weeks to go and will all fill out nicely, as u know. Bottom line- the indica plants are shorter and difficult to see in my pic- but they are there. If I keep a mother, it would be one of these indica leaner since it yields better weight.

Since I keep burning out ballasts running them at super lumens (1000 watts + 10%) with the lumatek ballasts- I kept them at 1000 (normal) watts this time. I think I got 42 oz out of the last run of G.G.- (or was it 48?)- I need to go back thru this forum and reread it to be sure- as I said, with a healthier crop holding ALL their leaves this time- I should get around 48-52 oz is my guess. That's with two 1000 watters in there. I'd figure around 2 oz. a plant, with a 3-5 gallon pot and healthy. Maybe a bit more with a longer veg- I think I only went 28-30 days max. But for me it's also about the 60 day (give or take a day or two) flowering period. I hate to go 70+ days for something to finish well.
 
budbro18

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I feel ya! I hate waiting over 60 days for flower. plus or minus a day or two like you said. Loved the GGs short stretch and really good flavor and yield with minimal veg.

I wish i could get a grape ape clone cause the grape ape dom kings kushs i ran were the same way. Really good yielders and some nice flavor and potency. I can only imagine what the clone is like.

I think the apothecary had seeds of it but i dont know if theyre around anymore.
 
bassman999

bassman999

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SSHZ said:
As we know, there are basically 2 pheno's- with most of the plants ending up somewhere in between the extremes. Although the pic's don't show it, there are a number of plants that are all indica- thick, dense already and shorter. You are seeing a lot of the "taller" sativa leaning pheno with spear shaped buds and not as dense. This time it seems I got way more of this pheno. They have 2 weeks to go and will all fill out nicely, as u know. Bottom line- the indica plants are shorter and difficult to see in my pic- but they are there. If I keep a mother, it would be one of these indica leaner since it yields better weight.

Since I keep burning out ballasts running them at super lumens (1000 watts + 10%) with the lumatek ballasts- I kept them at 1000 (normal) watts this time. I think I got 42 oz out of the last run of G.G.- (or was it 48?)- I need to go back thru this forum and reread it to be sure- as I said, with a healthier crop holding ALL their leaves this time- I should get around 48-52 oz is my guess. That's with two 1000 watters in there. I'd figure around 2 oz. a plant, with a 3-5 gallon pot and healthy. Maybe a bit more with a longer veg- I think I only went 28-30 days max. But for me it's also about the 60 day (give or take a day or two) flowering period. I hate to go 70+ days for something to finish well.
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They look healthy and the bug problem you stated doesnt show in pics.
Was wondering how big is your flowering space?
 
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I guess the room is like 10 X 12 but I don't use it all so I can walk around, and have space for water/fert container and the floor air scrubber- which is oversized. I keep 12 plants under each bulb, and I guess the actual space under plants is between 6 X 6 and 7 X 7. I didn't have a bug issue in this room this time- just some high heat (82 degrees) when it was really warm here the end of the summer. My winter crops always turn out better since the rooms are cooler during flowering. If you wanted to veg for 8 weeks instead of 4, I bet you could get equal weight with 1/2 the plants. Lastly, I think if I kept one of the "indica" leaning plants, I could get 60+ oz's in the same situation, FYI.

And I thought Grape Ape was a Barney's product, but I could be wrong......
 
bassman999

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SSHZ said:
I guess the room is like 10 X 12 but I don't use it all so I can walk around, and have space for water/fert container and the floor air scrubber- which is oversized. I keep 12 plants under each bulb, and I guess the actual space under plants is between 6 X 6 and 7 X 7. I didn't have a bug issue in this room this time- just some high heat (82 degrees) when it was really warm here the end of the summer. My winter crops always turn out better since the rooms are cooler during flowering. If you wanted to veg for 8 weeks instead of 4, I bet you could get equal weight with 1/2 the plants. Lastly, I think if I kept one of the "indica" leaning plants, I could get 60+ oz's in the same situation, FYI.

And I thought Grape Ape was a Barney's product, but I could be wrong......
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82* is too high?
I might have been losing yield several times from heat then...

I am going to be flowering in a 4x4 with a 600 this run and a few strains, and some of the strains will be thrown outside maybe for an attempt at flowering during winter lol..
Do you top to like 4 mains to get so many in that space?
I would love to see a single plant to see how it is trained/topped etc.

I hope I can get closer to that weight per light you are getting.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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I thought it originated at The Apothecary as a seed and eventually clones of the best ones started gettin passed around. Ive never been a big fan of barneys stuff. It always took a long time to flower and was way over the advertised expected time. And not just a few days sometimes 2 weeks

Edit: And bassman.... Are you shlappin da bass or out fishin for bass???? Ive wondered for years and change it in my head every time i see you post again haha.
 
bassman999

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budbro18 said:
I thought it originated at The Apothecary as a seed and eventually clones of the best ones started gettin passed around. Ive never been a big fan of barneys stuff. It always took a long time to flower and was way over the advertised expected time. And not just a few days sometimes 2 weeks

Edit: And bassman.... Are you shlappin da bass or out fishin for bass???? Ive wondered for years and change it in my head every time i see you post again haha.
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AFAIK the original purple strains started as elite clones yrs ago. Seeds were only recent, and I am not sure if the originator has anything to do with them.

I love music, and am a "BASS"head.
I was a car audio installer and also did some theater designing and custom work.
I still have lots and lots of subwoofers and speakers, some of which I built.

In fact I just finished a custom 15" completely rebuilt 4 hp subwoofer I painted cone navy blue, and plan to write Bassman on dustcap in white as soon as I have spare time.
Raw subwoofer without enclosure weighs around 60 lbs (pics upon request)

Oh and I live in THIEVELAND as well!
 
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SSHZ

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I deleted the post which was a copy of Barney's description.....not sure who started the strain 1st.

It's best to go no higher then upper 70's for ideal conditions........in the 80's, growth slows somewhat, leaf angle's change, the plants need more water, etc. If you have enough fans blowing in the room, it can offset the higher temps. But with CO2, low 80's is ideal.
 
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bassman999 said:
AFAIK the original purple strains started as elite clones yrs ago. Seeds were only recent, and I am not sure if the originator has anything to do with them.

I love music, and am a "BASS"head.
I was a car audio installer and also did some theater designing and custom work.
I still have lots and lots of subwoofers and speakers, some of which I built.

In fact I just finished a custom 15" completely rebuilt 4 hp subwoofer I painted cone navy blue, and plan to write Bassman on dustcap in white as soon as I have spare time.
Raw subwoofer without enclosure weighs around 60 lbs (pics upon request)

Oh and I live in THIEVELAND as well!
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And I thought you liked Lance Bass...........LOL
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Thats awesome bass. I figured it was something along those lines but ya never know on here haha. And i swear i find a new person from my general area every couple months on here.

A friend worked for american bass and made some custom speakers. I forget the technical side but he took a 13 and stretched it to a 15 and did a bunch of shit with a custom amp and all types of shit with the ohms and made that bitch slam!!! It was funny, the most expensive thing he bought was a new alternator capable of powering everything. haha.

I really want a grape ape cut though. Hell even some seeds would be fine. I was really tempted to keep my grape ape dom kings kush but i like circulating new strains in if the previous isnt the killa. It was some good. potent and tasty, produced/grew pretty well. Super indica dom. But it just lacked that "next level" shit that self grown usually has. Like the stuff we get from CO/CA/MI is good but my shit kills 9/10 of the things we get. The occasional banna og or cherry pie or headband or gsc are the only things we really get that compare, and some of them blow my shit out the water. The banna did on strength. But most of my shit has been on par with it. So if its not that good it gets the chop.

Hopin to end this trial and error with the DOGs though.
 
bassman999

bassman999

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budbro18 said:
Thats awesome bass. I figured it was something along those lines but ya never know on here haha. And i swear i find a new person from my general area every couple months on here.

A friend worked for american bass and made some custom speakers. I forget the technical side but he took a 13 and stretched it to a 15 and did a bunch of shit with a custom amp and all types of shit with the ohms and made that bitch slam!!! It was funny, the most expensive thing he bought was a new alternator capable of powering everything. haha.

I really want a grape ape cut though. Hell even some seeds would be fine. I was really tempted to keep my grape ape dom kings kush but i like circulating new strains in if the previous isnt the killa. It was some good. potent and tasty, produced/grew pretty well. Super indica dom. But it just lacked that "next level" shit that self grown usually has. Like the stuff we get from CO/CA/MI is good but my shit kills 9/10 of the things we get. The occasional banna og or cherry pie or headband or gsc are the only things we really get that compare, and some of them blow my shit out the water. The banna did on strength. But most of my shit has been on par with it. So if its not that good it gets the chop.

Hopin to end this trial and error with the DOGs though.
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I had Grape as a clone.
Huge solid buds flowered outdoor in a greenhouse with light dep chopped in June or July.
No color since the temps were high.
I found it similar to the GDP I was flowering next to her, but more fruity actually.

I grew 2 Dogs from seed.
Some of the strongest smoke ever, but I didnt train her right and had 12 mains, but each had like 12 shoots so buds are SMALL.
I didnt take the time to prune her and just let her do her thing after all the work to top her.
What a mistake, unusable buds...looks like I need to try to make oil or hash.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Yeah the grape sure was nice. I cant wait to run the dogs. Love trainin and fuckin with my plants.

As for oil/hash go for dry ice. I really like it and its a good, cheap way to make some quick and further refinable hash.

takes your oz and turns it into a q which can then be processed more with butane or iso or mixed into butter or high proof alcohol.
 
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SSHZ

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I recently took a oz and soaked it in 1/2 lb of unsalted butter and used it to make cherry lollipops.......they turned out well- very strong and easy to eat. Everyone likes them!
 
bassman999

bassman999

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budbro18 said:
Yeah the grape sure was nice. I cant wait to run the dogs. Love trainin and fuckin with my plants.

As for oil/hash go for dry ice. I really like it and its a good, cheap way to make some quick and further refinable hash.

takes your oz and turns it into a q which can then be processed more with butane or iso or mixed into butter or high proof alcohol.
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I have done that b4, but nobody was really interested in the keif, I guess the further refinement is where its at...
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I recently took a oz and soaked it in 1/2 lb of unsalted butter and used it to make cherry lollipops.......they turned out well- very strong and easy to eat. Everyone likes them!
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Sounds nice, whole buds maybe ground? in the butter of keif?
 
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SSHZ

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I took a dried oz and removed all stems. I didn't grind it up. I melted in a double boiler a 1/2 lb of butter (2 sticks) and cooked it low for 2 hours with the oz stirring a lot. Drained and strained it and let the butter sit over night in the fridge. I added 6 tablespoons of the butter to my candy recipe. Took all of 20 minutes to complete the lollipops. Let them cool and start sucking......LOL

Nice and easy meds if u ask me..........
 
bassman999

bassman999

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SSHZ said:
I took a dried oz and removed all stems. I didn't grind it up. I melted in a double boiler a 1/2 lb of butter (2 sticks) and cooked it low for 2 hours with the oz stirring a lot. Drained and strained it and let the butter sit over night in the fridge. I added 6 tablespoons of the butter to my candy recipe. Took all of 20 minutes to complete the lollipops. Let them cool and start sucking......LOL

Nice and easy meds if u ask me..........
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Thanx for sharing that.
I might try it with some extra I have.
 
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SSHZ

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Let me know if you need the recipe. I also made a killer "melt-in-your mouth" caramel that's even better BUT it takes like 2 hours to make!
 
bassman999

bassman999

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SSHZ said:
Let me know if you need the recipe. I also made a killer "melt-in-your mouth" caramel that's even better BUT it takes like 2 hours to make!
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I tried making oatmeal cookies a few times, and they tasted terrible and didnt get you medicated.
I used keif and made it into butter in crockpot and overnight in fridge, baked on a slightly lower heat and everything I read to do.
 
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SSHZ

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If you want a "low" green taste, the double boiler butter is about the best. I've tried many ways, and I find that candy made with this butter barely has any green taste at all.........I'm always looking for new ways, though.
 
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