Grassy smell when does it go away?

Renfro

Renfro

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Know that moisture is the enemy, just like iron rusting, water helps the THCA decarboxylate. I have had kief from my trim bin that sat for 4 months in very low RH% conditions (teens) and I pressed that kief for rosin at 190F and got shatter consistency because the THCA was not decarbed from all that time sitting. Had the kief been on moist nugs curing at 62% I would have gotten runny oil (decarbed). Of course sitting all that time the terpenes had dissipated and flavor wasn't terpy but the dabs were dank otherwise. I just did it as a test run with my new press since I had the kief laying around.
 
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2com

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Renfro said:
yeah, really bad for flavor. when I was a newb and I wanted a quick taste I would set a nug on the light hood for my 400 watt HPS. After an hour or two it would be dry but have a lot more flavor left than if I microwaved it. Still, not great tasting.

I just put my harvested, defanned buds (still on stems) in bread trays, that room has a ceiling fan moving air. It's usually pretty low RH%, like in the 30's so it is usually dry in 5 - 7 days. Usually takes my girl about a month to trim it all out. When I bag the nugs I remoisten them. I use wrung out wet paper towels in a turkey bag or for larger batches a rubbermaid tub and some 62% boost packs to bring the moisture content back up so it smokes better and doesn't turn to dust during transport and handling. About 3 paper towels per pound, if the nugs are super dry, within 24 hours the paper towels are dry and the buds have adsorbed that moisture. If they are still below 60% I repeat the process. Once they are at 62% pounds are made in turkey bags and boost packs are packed in with to keep things happy.
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Very interesting. This is your process currently? It's only a 5-7 day dry? By your describing the remoistening of the buds it sounds like mine were still a bit "wet" (not actually wet though..). Or maybe that's a bit past the level of dryness you got them to in that instance? Not criticizing - just investigating, you obviously know what's up and have much, much, much more experience than I.

Thanks for sharing some insight on things. I have some things to try next time :)
Couch_Lock said:
I don't cure either. I just hang it 4 -5 days....then toss branches in large garden paper bags for storage.........
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My world is being turned upside down. Hah.

There is no consistency with what people are saying or doing now. "3-5 days is way too short and you'll have hay/grass weed". "10-14 days is a good target so that it doesn't dry too quick". "2 weeks curing". "4-6 weeks curing".
By the way, thought you'd left the site. Good to see you back, dude, if you had left. :)
 
Renfro

Renfro

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How many days it takes to dry will depend on the RH%, temperature, airflow and size of buds and how much stem and leaf is there to dry as well. Lotsa variables.
 
TheWizZ

TheWizZ

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Renfro said:
How many days it takes to dry will depend on the RH%, temperature, airflow and size of buds and how much stem and leaf is there to dry as well. Lotsa variables.
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A lot of information in this thread is going against the so called science I read about drying/curing... when it’s curing the bud is continueing to get rid of the chloraphyl no? Which improves smell/taste?
 
FastFreddi

FastFreddi

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Hello and good day.
Yes! Very confusing it can be. The reason you get so many variations, I believe, is due to the fact we are all from so many different places, environments.
Imo all the differences are just grower preferred and what works for them.
Use all relevant info, and try to determine the best solution for your environment, and where you like the Bud to be for you.
This will take trial and error on your part.
Too many on here try to push what works for them , it may not for you.
You will find your sweet spot.
Peace.
FF
 
TheWizZ

TheWizZ

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FastFreddi said:
Hello and good day.
Yes! Very confusing it can be. The reason you get so many variations, I believe, is due to the fact we are all from so many different places, environments.
Imo all the differences are just grower preferred and what works for them.
Use all relevant info, and try to determine the best solution for your environment, and where you like the Bud to be for you.
This will take trial and error on your part.
Too many on here try to push what works for them , it may not for you.
You will find your sweet spot.
Peace.
FF
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That may be a true statement for drying TIMES but as far as saying curing is pointless... that’s where I’m saying hmm? Science doesn’t just change from one side of the country to the other or even over seas... just the environment.
 
FastFreddi

FastFreddi

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TheWizZ said:
That may be a true statement for drying TIMES but as far as saying curing is pointless... that’s where I’m saying hmm? Science doesn’t just change from one side of the country to the other or even over seas... just the environment.
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Sure....
Peace.
FF
 
FastFreddi

FastFreddi

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When you allow the plant to dry too far, no curing will take place. The enzymes necessary for the action die off. Opening or burping jars does a couple of things...allows built up humidity to exit the jar, hence the Bud, and allows fresh oxygen for the enzymes.
I did not come here to argue with you, I am trying to help the op.
Peace.
FF
 
TheWizZ

TheWizZ

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FastFreddi said:
When you allow the plant to dry too far, no curing will take place. The enzymes necessary for the action die off. Opening or burping jars does a couple of things...allows built up humidity to exit the jar, hence the Bud, and allows fresh oxygen for the enzymes.
I did not come here to argue with you, I am trying to help the op.
Peace.
FF
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It wasn’t even an argument? I’m adding my concerns into the conversation at hand... I’m trying to understand why growers are saying curing doesn’t do nothing but hurt flavor and potency when I’ve read what I thought was scientific data that states otherwise. I’m just confused looking for some data backed answers.
 
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2com

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TheWizZ said:
It wasn’t even an argument? I’m adding my concerns into the conversation at hand... I’m trying to understand why growers are saying curing doesn’t do nothing but hurt flavor and potency when I’ve read what I thought was scientific data that states otherwise. I’m just confused looking for some data backed answers.
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If you happen to have a link, or even remember what/where specifically you searched, could you share it please? I'll be honest, I've wanted to but just haven't had the time recently to look.
Thanks.
 
TheWizZ

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hydra-glide

hydra-glide

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Bobby Long Buds said:
Please help me figure out why my outdoor tastes green every year. I’ve got my dry room at 15 c 50 humidity. The indoor from that same room is perfect after a month or less. Outdoor always has a green taste to it.

Could it to too much phosphorus?
Genetics can’t explain why my indoor tastes great but the same plant outdoors tastes green.
I trim wet with great success with indoor. I’m about ready to stop outdoor if I can’t figure it out.
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IMO, the reason weed may smell like chlorophyl grass is simple: Only harvest when the trichomes are no longer clear. There needs to be 20-30% coverage of cloudy-to amber trichomes. If you do this, your weed will smell like terpene-fruit for as long as you have it jarred. It only took me 7-growing seasons to find this out.... because I'm extra, extra-stoopid. :peace: Let it age 62RH-packet jarred for a year of more and it's even better.
 
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hydra-glide

hydra-glide

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Cob Curing:
A really nice alternative for curing with buds when they still have a 62-65% humidity level is cobbing. Not C.O.B. lighting, but Cob curing: The buds must still have natural moisture within. I tried using corn husks the first time, then moved on to a "healthy" plastic wrap (Saran, etc.). A vacuum sealer is a good thing to own, affordable from amazon, there's a link to it. Of note, if you keep the dried and cured cobbed weed in a jar with a 62RH pack inside, they will continue to cure for a year, in my case, I'm still curing cobs from 2018, my last grow season.
And another aside to mention, is the myth, that a grower will never have grown enough for himself..... wrong! I harvested 48 Ball jars full of the stuff, and still have a gob of bubbler material to make into ice-water hashish. Here's the Cobbing link with links to materials: :peace:

Cob Curing

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=309172
www.rollitup.org
 
Boatguy

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Craigson said:
Any explanation or reasoning for this statement?
it doesnt even make sense. I get it everyone has an opinion but just cuz I say my opinion is that the sky is yellow doesnt change the fact that its blue.
Just trying to understand how your opinion experience can vary so much compared to thousands of growers previous.
Thx
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Curing mellows and smooths out the product imo. When i hang dry till ready to bag its much sharper and retains a stronger smell.
Personally i prefer it mellowed out, but people seem to like to smell it without having to open the bag or break up a bud.
Both methods are just a matter of preference
 
Craigson

Craigson

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Boatguy said:
Curing mellows and smooths out the product imo. When i hang dry till ready to bag its much sharper and retains a stronger smell.
Personally i prefer it mellowed out, but people seem to like to smell it without having to open the bag or break up a bud.
Both methods are just a matter of preference
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Exactly, in the end its what works for you that matters
 
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