Green Crack Clones!! HELP

Polomex

Active Member
Hi everybody, it's been a while that i'm looking on this website but this is my first post. I've started a new hydroponic SCROG in a closet for personal consumption and I'm searching for the strains i'll grow. I would like to grow some sativa strains like a Dr Grinspoon or maybe a few seeds from mexican brickweed (it would be sooo interesting to see what it would give hehe), but there's one strain that i'm trying so hard to find and there's a story with it.

So here's my story. A year ago, one of my friend came with a strain that was called green crack. After I've smoked some of this magical weed, I was completely blown away by the highly energetic high it gave me. So it's been a year that i'm looking EVERYWHERE to find green crack clones or buds. I've crossed buds only one time after. Is there somebody here that can help me in my quest? Lol is there somebody that know where to find clones or atleast just give me more information about this strain? It would be so helpful.

P.S.: Sorry for my bad english i'm french from Quebec lol

You can contact me on my email adress : rikikilavachevolante@hotmail.com
 

b0n3s

Member
can't help ypu out much with the strain but green crack is BOMB!!! hehehe :) love it. i have had the same question for awhile. but knowing my luck it will be a clone only version.....
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Hi everybody, it's been a while that i'm looking on this website but this is my first post. I've started a new hydroponic SCROG in a closet for personal consumption and I'm searching for the strains i'll grow. I would like to grow some sativa strains like a Dr Grinspoon or maybe a few seeds from mexican brickweed (it would be sooo interesting to see what it would give hehe), but there's one strain that i'm trying so hard to find and there's a story with it.

So here's my story. A year ago, one of my friend came with a strain that was called green crack. After I've smoked some of this magical weed, I was completely blown away by the highly energetic high it gave me. So it's been a year that i'm looking EVERYWHERE to find green crack clones or buds. I've crossed buds only one time after. Is there somebody here that can help me in my quest? Lol is there somebody that know where to find clones or atleast just give me more information about this strain? It would be so helpful.

P.S.: Sorry for my bad english i'm french from Quebec lol

You can contact me on my email adress : rikikilavachevolante@hotmail.com
Check Female Seeds' Skunk Special. I know - it isn't Green Crack. But while you seek the Holy Grail this stuff kicks ass. Great high! Even a Canadian can understand that, eh? Greetings from AK!
 

hotrodharley

Well-Known Member
Green Crack is a high grade skunk crossed with an unknown indica. Chances are super that so many phenotypes exist in this strain as it is apparently not too available. FS Skunk Special is a proven ass kicker with good yield. 10 feminized for $35 Euros or $43+ USD from Growshop Alien (Belgium) sent quick to the US. Canada? Quien sabe?
 

jb5355

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Green crack is the star of my garden. Not my absolute favorite smoke but stiil very good. The reason i love it so much is because its a money maker. 7 days into 12/12 and there will be dime size buds. It can be pulled at 45 days but i let go 60 and they are the most beautiful, rock hard nugs ive ever seen. Mother fuckers love that shit.
 

209 Cali closet grower

Well-Known Member
Green crack is the star of my garden. Not my absolute favorite smoke but stiil very good. The reason i love it so much is because its a money maker. 7 days into 12/12 and there will be dime size buds. It can be pulled at 45 days but i let go 60 and they are the most beautiful, rock hard nugs ive ever seen. Mother fuckers love that shit.
got green crack indoors and outside, and gk is already in full bloom.Can wait for my indoor too..
 

Polomex

Active Member
can't help ypu out much with the strain but green crack is BOMB!!! hehehe :) love it. i have had the same question for awhile. but knowing my luck it will be a clone only version.....
Ya I already knew it was clone-only .. it sucks! Can somebody explain me why there's strains that are clone only?
Check Female Seeds' Skunk Special. I know - it isn't Green Crack. But while you seek the Holy Grail this stuff kicks ass. Great high! Even a Canadian can understand that, eh? Greetings from AK!
wow i didn't knew GC was a crossbreed from skunk! You think super skunk would look like GC?
Green crack is the star of my garden. Not my absolute favorite smoke but stiil very good. The reason i love it so much is because its a money maker. 7 days into 12/12 and there will be dime size buds. It can be pulled at 45 days but i let go 60 and they are the most beautiful, rock hard nugs ive ever seen. Mother fuckers love that shit.
Really? wow your lucky lol so it's like a sativa high but with the flowering time of a indica? ... NICE! Do you think you can post some pictures?
check out this thread theres a site that sells seeds https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/548765-green-crack.html I just doubt its the real deal green crack probally a cross IDK
Yea me too I doubt it's real GC seeds cause it IS clone-only strain :(
 

NightbirdX

Well-Known Member
The Sick Meds version is Green Crack S1. (selfed for those of you who no hablo espanol.) Feminized seeds. I got a pack on the way, so I can't say from experience, but the pics of it look nice. And ya, who knows if it is real deal, but I guess we'll see. :)
 

bluntmassa1

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Ya I already knew it was clone-only .. it sucks! Can somebody explain me why there's strains that are clone only?
the clone only strains are just a great pheno out of a pack of seeds all seeds grow a little different thats why people clone and keep the best mothers and you can't just make seed from them cause they all come out different but with clones there all about the same great pheno
 

Jogro

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Can somebody explain me why there's strains that are clone only?
"Clone only" strains are ones that have characteristics interesting enough for people to want to grow and maintain the genetics, but for a variety of reasons seeds for these strains aren't commercially available.

Typically these are strains with multiple desirable charateristics, typically potency AND flavor, though other characteristics can be involved too (color, leaf shape, grow time, etc).

There can be many reasons why seeds for otherwise interesting strains aren't commercially available:

-In some cases "clone only" strains WERE once commercially available, but for whatever reason the original breeder stopped selling them. Silver Pearl (from Sensi Seeds) and Afghani Skunk are two old-school strains like this. People who like these have maintained them as clones.

Williams Wonder and Herijuana are both older strains that have been off and on in terms of commercial availability, with both strains being sold by various breeders at various times. At this moment, both are being sold by commercial breeders (Sannie has herijuana, though he's often sold out; a new breeder called "Sickmeds" offers Williams Wonder), but there were times when each strain or both were "clone only."

-In some cases the strain in question was just developed by an amateur breeder who passed it around locally, and never tried to commercialize it. Some of these strains do eventually become commercialized if an enterprising breeder senses a demand and self-crosses them to create seeds. Green crack is one like this. . .S1 seeds are/were available from riot seeds, and now Sickmeds also offers some. My understanding is that the original English "Cheese" strain was also one like this.

-In most cases "clone only" strains just represent excellent individual hybrid phenotypes that either came about by accident or were selected from a large batch of hybrids.

In cases like this, the strain simply cannot be stabilized since its the hybrid nature of the strain that makes it interesting; even crossing a plant to itself will yield offspring most of which will be different than the parent. So with these kind of hybrids, the only way to reliably reproduce its traits is via cloning.
 

TrichomeBob

New Member
U can never really replicate plants, that's why clones exist, it will make copies of a certain pheno.
even if the clone is selfed (s1) it still won't create the clone in seed form, it will just lock it's traits into the seeds, so you'll still have to hunt for a similar plant to the clone, and even then there's no guarantee.

clones are one off and can never be replicated, even clones of clones will be genetically different due to environmental conditions, unless it's the same breeder/room etc.
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
clones are one off and can never be replicated, even clones of clones will be genetically different due to environmental conditions, unless it's the same breeder/room etc.
Well, clones are "supposed" to be genetically identical to the "mother" plants (hence the term "clone").

It makes perfect sense if you think about it, a clone is quite literally a piece of the mother plant. Its DNA should be identical, the same as DNA in your left foot should be identical to that in your right!

What can happen is that clones of the same plant grown under different conditions can behave differently. Varying nutes, soil pH, temperature, humidity, light spectrum, and other factors can all affect the growth characteristics and expression of a plant. The fancy genetic way of saying this is that identical genotypes can express different phenotypes. So this is the "nurture" part of the nature vs nurture, argument.

As a seperate issue, there is something called "genetic drift". Over time, small amounts of random genetic mutations can accumulate, and eventually they can take a toll on a plant line maintained for years. If you take a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone, etc, eventually this phenomenon can lead to loss of vigor in growth, slow rooting of clones, and other issues.
 

BustinScales510

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I think the term genetic drift is misleading. I mean I understand the reasoning of it,but it makes it sound as if it is an inevitable thing that happens over time with making generations of clones from clones. What Ive found is that it is more of an atrophy that is a result of poor propagation practices.

In places with thriving clone markets,like med states with large cities, commercial cloners use large mother plants for long periods that can become overcrowded with stringy,spindly shoots. Plants like this produce way more cuttings per round. The growers are paid by the clone and they are able to produce plenty of 50 count trays of feeble clones, with tooth pick sized woody purple striped stems that have mini fan leaves only a couple of inches in diameter.

Even with plenty of care and patience, sometimes these types of clones never regain their vigor..and as a result you never see a true representation of the strain. You can veg them longer,but they still have weird signs of stress like nutrient sensitivity, stunted growth (small fan leaves and thin stems),excessive preflowers in veg and ultimately poor bud production that lacks density,resin and potency.

In my experience,all that can be avoided by taking large healthy clones from mother plants that are pruned to keep a good form and produce more robust branches. This way strains can go on indefinitely without losing quality. Sorry to ramble,just wanted to add my 2 cents :)
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
I think the term genetic drift is misleading. I mean I understand the reasoning of it,but it makes it sound as if it is an inevitable thing that happens over time with making generations of clones from clones.
Its certainly not "inevitable"; there are people running clones from clone-only strains that are over 20 years old. In fact, I'm pretty sure Green Crack itself is something like that.

Its just "possible".


What Ive found is that it is more of an atrophy that is a result of poor propagation practices.
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what causes it at a genetic or physiologic level, but I think there is a phenomenon where really old and/or rootbound mother plants just make poor clones that are slow to grow.

Going clone to clone to clone to clone isn't necessary for this to happen.
 
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