Green house seeds "ghs"
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Dice Clay
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And just to add that that Arjan guy is a fucking lying profit mongering asshole who only cares about the expansion of his wealth and fame. Greenhouse is not only the most touristy and bullshit coffee shop in Amsterdam, but as said by many here before, they are not true breeders, they are rippers that pass off phony strains for profit. This asshole is what is wrong not only with the industry in Holland but world wide. I remember my first time stepping into the main grasshopper on Damrak, I was 19 at the time... and even at that age, with all the ignorance of youth I was disgusted by this phony ass place with fake palm trees,cheesy green back lighting 15 dollar drink minimums, and obnoxious staff... this place was like weed Walt Disney. I guess I am liberal though because I give an honest account of my personal experience.. guess what if it is negative I am going to tell my peers in an effort to save them the same dismay, loss, and disappointment. Anything that commercialized can only dilute and weaken a product.. and greenhouse never had a good one to begin with... why don't you just go to those horrible tourist trap Bulldog hostels/coffee shops to get seeds.. or maybe soon McDonald's will be able to sell you some on their dollar menu
Blindbaby... maybe instead of chastising other people and "slandering" them (an education/ dictionary would let you know that doesn't fit in this context), you should just give your own experience?
ru4r34l
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I love to see the Arjan haters come out when a GHS thread pops up, some of us here need a 
. Lot's of posts here about crappy GHS genetics and how bad the plants they genetics produce but there is never any pictures to prove the massive hermies and bad growth.
I won't say GHS produces the best genetics but they certainly do compare to ANY other breeder out there, I have grown now from almost 8 unique breeders (cough, cough), over 25 strains and my GHS strains do just as well as some other (read more expensive) strains.
GHS Kalishinikova also just was named one of the top 10 strains of 2012, based on growth, look, smell, smoke, taste and ANALYSIS testing!
regards,
. Lot's of posts here about crappy GHS genetics and how bad the plants they genetics produce but there is never any pictures to prove the massive hermies and bad growth.I won't say GHS produces the best genetics but they certainly do compare to ANY other breeder out there, I have grown now from almost 8 unique breeders (cough, cough), over 25 strains and my GHS strains do just as well as some other (read more expensive) strains.
GHS Kalishinikova also just was named one of the top 10 strains of 2012, based on growth, look, smell, smoke, taste and ANALYSIS testing!
regards,
colocowboy
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I always look for ANALYSIS TESTED BUDS!
BTW blindbaby, going around calling people "liberal" like it's a cuss word is deplorable! I knew there was something off about you when reading your posts, should have known it was that you were a koolaid drinking neo-con sucker!
BTW blindbaby, going around calling people "liberal" like it's a cuss word is deplorable! I knew there was something off about you when reading your posts, should have known it was that you were a koolaid drinking neo-con sucker!
FOUR20 SWG
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Somewhere in Canada, a bridge is missing a troll.I love to see the Arjan haters come out when a GHS thread pops up, some of us here need a
I won't say GHS produces the best genetics but they certainly do compare to ANY other breeder out there, I have grown now from almost 8 unique breeders (cough, cough), over 25 strains and my GHS strains do just as well as some other (read more expensive) strains.
GHS Kalishinikova also just was named one of the top 10 strains of 2012, based on growth, look, smell, smoke, taste and ANALYSIS testing!
regards,
I would like to;
A) Hear who/what you have grown. Because if you found 8 breeders/25 strains worse then GH you may have been growing oregano.
and
B) Know where the Kalashinikova is rated in the top 10. Post a link if you can.
And just because nobody bothered to take the time to post a pic here of the shitty end results doesn't mean they didn't happen. Why would so many people, many of whom (myself not included) have been on here for years and who gain nothing by badmouthing anyone, come out so strongly against these guys? BECAUSE THEY SUCK. People work too hard to buildup reputations as decent, honest contributors to this site to simply fuck it up by having killboners for Arjan AllScam Roskam.
ru4r34l
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reading skills may be missing, as I am sure I did not say I found 8 breeders/25 strains worse
, but here is what I did say:December 2012 High Times, Issue 443, pg 60
Also in the top 10 were:
- Rare Dankness - OG Ghost Train Haze
- T.H Seeds - Sage n' Sour
- BC Bud Depot - Shiatsu
- DNA Genetics - Skywalker Kush
- Big Buddha Seeds - LA Cheese
- The Cali Connection - Dead Head OG
- Dinafem - Moby Dick
- Girl Scout Cookies - (Clone Only) from the Bay area
- TGA Genetics - Qrazy Train
This sort of gives credibility to my statement:
People take pictures to prove or add sustenance to the statements they make, if the genetics are so bad I would expect to see these pictures of hermied GHS plants all over the net.
Join DateOct 2012LocationNorCalPosts38Yes I am the troll, so is this a sock puppet account, because it looks like you have been here only for a few days
regards,
FOUR20 SWG
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Pretty sure I mentioned that I wasn't an OG.
They don't teach you Cannucks how to read up there?
They don't teach you Cannucks how to read up there?
hotrodharley
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The SSH that is a disappointment now? A freebie to a friend in a promo. I knew zilch about SSH, he gave it to me and I was hyped. When it was a flop he told me it was a GHS freebie he had gotten. 2 in a row now. A White Widow which was better than this SSH and both real disappointments and a waste of everything. Mexican bagweed beats this SSH pheno I had.
hotrodharley
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Honestly I have been a guerrilla growing old man since 1964 and a lot of this breeder war and buying seeds in the mail was all new to me. Until my mom started asking me about growing it for my sister who has been since disabled and carded. I always grew out seeds from only the very best smoke I got along the border. The last few years have been like a kid going into Toys-R-Us with a wad of money for me. Unreal you can buy seeds (and I do!!!!!!) and mail order everything. No need for crap from GHS.
hotrodharley
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My SSH was a beautiful plant. Buds never filled out, kept flowering instead (new ones) and all this was predicted by another RIU poster who saw my SSH braid I posted about. Told me how it would flower, how it wouldn't stop and the weed was mediocre at best. He was right on it all.CI love to see the Arjan haters come out when a GHS thread pops up, some of us here need a
I won't say GHS produces the best genetics but they certainly do compare to ANY other breeder out there, I have grown now from almost 8 unique breeders (cough, cough), over 25 strains and my GHS strains do just as well as some other (read more expensive) strains.
GHS Kalishinikova also just was named one of the top 10 strains of 2012, based on growth, look, smell, smoke, taste and ANALYSIS testing!
regards,
Certainly all breeders have some winners. Including GHS. Others have far fewer problem strains.
ru4r34l
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I would agree with your statement, it's very true all breeders have some winners and some that are just blah, but speaking from my own personal experience GHS ranks just as fine as the others breeders (IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE)
The other top 9 strains for the year I posted previously, 4 of them are in my flower room right now at about 5 weeks, I am not about promoting any one breeder over another I am just speaking about my OWN PERSONAL RESULTS, I may just be one of the lucky GHS growers.
regards,
FOUR20 SWG
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-Ho ho...tried slippin by with an edit. Not so fast Nickleback.reading skills may be missing, as I am sure I did not say I found 8 breeders/25 strains worse
December 2012 High Times, Issue 443, pg 60
Also in the top 10 were:
- Rare Dankness - OG Ghost Train Haze
- T.H Seeds - Sage n' Sour
- BC Bud Depot - Shiatsu
- DNA Genetics - Skywalker Kush
- Big Buddha Seeds - LA Cheese
- The Cali Connection - Dead Head OG
- Dinafem - Moby Dick
- Girl Scout Cookies - (Clone Only) from the Bay area
- TGA Genetics - Qrazy Train
This sort of gives credibility to my statement:
Instead you wait awhile and try to pass this one under the radar.
People take pictures to prove or add sustenance to the statements they make, if the genetics are so bad I would expect to see these pictures of hermied GHS plants all over the net.
Yes I am the troll, so is this a sock puppet account, because it looks like you have been here only for a few days
-Still would like that link(s) bud. And don't get snippy with linguistics man. You said you found strains/breeders that GH did better then. I asked you to detail who and what you've grown. Instead you wait awhile and try to pass this one under the radar.
-I believe every strain on that list except the one your listing. Because all of those breeders are LEGIT.
-If you think there is some huge GH conspiracy going on then there's a bridge in Brooklyn I can get ya a pretty good deal on.
-You keep bringin up my time on this site like I didn't mention it or like it's a bad thing. Honestly dude, if you think time on this site equates to anything other than well..time on this site, then you are exactly the kind of fool GHS is looking for. Have fun with those colored seeds, I hear they have a real legit Chemdog.
ru4r34l
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No slip with the edit, just did not get to finish what I wanted to say and I actually wanted to hit the "go Advanced" button to get the bigger edit window..I did not know an edit was a bad thing
You don't need a link I gave you the Article Name, Date, and issue #. did you want me to go and pick you up a copy! gathering strain list, be back soon! (oops another edit)
Oh I am hurt you don't believe me, again go pick up the article for yourself. GHS Kalishnikova is the first strain documented and has the cover photo of the article.
What is a conspiracy, and how much will the bridge set me back
I only brought up your time on this site once, an obvious misread on my part, my sincere apologies. I also have no delusions that time on this site means just that, I have been an illegal provider for almost 12 years now and have been here maybe 2 years.-You keep bringin up my time on this site like I didn't mention it or like it's a bad thing. Honestly dude, if you think time on this site equates to anything other than well..time on this site, then you are exactly the kind of fool GHS is looking for. Have fun with those colored seeds, I hear they have a real legit Chemdog.
I love the color seeds makes it easy to keep track of them little buggers.
regards,
FOUR20 SWG
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Says it all.
Anyway, from where I'm sitting it looked like you tried to Big Homie me about my time on the site (hence the huge font, right?).
I'll certainly be on the lookout for the article, because one of those doesn't sound right. If i'm wrong, i'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last.
But if you wanna get on here and act like it's everyone elses problem and not GH's, that's where I call bullshit. Nobody stands to gain anything by making GH look bad. So unless you're directly calling everyone on here who posted negatively about them a liar, how can you refute all these testimonies?
And as far as the edit goes; it's one thing to have to spell/fact check, I do that all the time. It's another thing entirely to go alter your entire post after you get called on something so said and try to pass it off without notice.
ru4r34l
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The font change was due to highlighting and copy/paste your info from the page, again I had misread and apologized for that. kiss-ass
I have never once called anybody a liar who talks badly about GHS genetics, but what I have called out are those who talk badly and don't have a shred of evidence behind there claims. My evidence is real, I have grown it, smoked it, sold it, and given it away; some don't like it (out here they love kush) but mostly good comments and happy customers (oops patients).
I also think personal vendetta's against Arjan should not bring the genetics into question.
Testimonies with no proof is meaningless, I have had Emerald Triangle, Cali Connection, and Dinafem genetics hermie on me (I do not claim they are shitty breeders and charlatans) and I have the pictures to prove it, all I have said and will stick by is "the genetics I have grown out, there have been some better and some worse than GHS.
I did not even read your post before editing, surely you would have noticed the "Last edited by..."
regards,
hotrodharley
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I still would not waste grow space potentially by using GHS is all I mean and just for me. Never a dud from Dinafem, WOS, Paradise, RP, G13 Labs, Barney's for me while realizing others may experience what I did - 2 strains in a row that their pheno sucked from one the banks I got 100% with.
FOUR20 SWG
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Personal vendettas?? No proof???
But you're not calling us liars, right?
I based everything I said about the company off of my experience with their genetics. Which is exactly what most of the posters on here did.
My reason for not having pictures is that at the time I was growing their stuff (a few years and many miles east ago..) I was not legal and keeping/documenting proof written or photographic of my activities at home or on the internet seemed like a no-brainer way to fuck myself over. Now, well-within the comfy confines of California, I find myself in a position where I am more at ease to speak on the herb that I love. But I digress...
Any breeder trying to sell you "Chemdog" seeds, or "Arcata-cut Trainwreck" that is based in Amsterdam...probably a jokester.
Of course, the wizard is always more important than the wand. I have no doubt you would be able to produce decent results that people would be happy to smoke. Anyone with access and enough time to browse these forums could likely say the same.
But with all the good breeders out there (ET, Sannies, DNA, TGA, etc etc etc) why bother with just ok? Why not go for great instead
Do ya really need the grinder that badly?
But you're not calling us liars, right?
I based everything I said about the company off of my experience with their genetics. Which is exactly what most of the posters on here did.
My reason for not having pictures is that at the time I was growing their stuff (a few years and many miles east ago..) I was not legal and keeping/documenting proof written or photographic of my activities at home or on the internet seemed like a no-brainer way to fuck myself over. Now, well-within the comfy confines of California, I find myself in a position where I am more at ease to speak on the herb that I love. But I digress...
Any breeder trying to sell you "Chemdog" seeds, or "Arcata-cut Trainwreck" that is based in Amsterdam...probably a jokester.
Of course, the wizard is always more important than the wand. I have no doubt you would be able to produce decent results that people would be happy to smoke. Anyone with access and enough time to browse these forums could likely say the same.
But with all the good breeders out there (ET, Sannies, DNA, TGA, etc etc etc) why bother with just ok? Why not go for great instead
Do ya really need the grinder that badly?
ru4r34l
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I did not use the word liars, you did; I said there was no proof! You may have a reasonable explanation for not having proof but as you and I both know there are probably hundred of thousands of GHS genetics in growers hands right now, and I suspect we will not see the 2012 / 2013 hermie explosion due to GHS; but wait a few months and we can return to this discussion by the account of many here there will be more suckers who grow out GHS gear,Personal vendettas?? No proof???
But you're not calling us liars, right?
I based everything I said about the company off of my experience with their genetics. Which is exactly what most of the posters on here did.
My reason for not having pictures is that at the time I was growing their stuff (a few years and many miles east ago..) I was not legal and keeping/documenting proof written or photographic of my activities at home or on the internet seemed like a no-brainer way to fuck myself over. Now, well-within the comfy confines of California, I find myself in a position where I am more at ease to speak on the herb that I love. But I digress...
Any breeder trying to sell you "Chemdog" seeds, or "Arcata-cut Trainwreck" that is based in Amsterdam...probably a jokester.
Of course, the wizard is always more important than the wand. I have no doubt you would be able to produce decent results that people would be happy to smoke. Anyone with access and enough time to browse these forums could likely say the same.
But with all the good breeders out there (ET, Sannies, DNA, TGA, etc etc etc) why bother with just ok? Why not go for great instead
Do ya really need the grinder that badly?
maybe a photo or two will surface.Oh yes back to the GOOD growers list, check my earlier posts I have grown from many breeders, here are a few of the notable failures:
ET - 5 feminized Bubbas' were boys
Dinafem - OG Kush hermied quite nicely around week 5, still was a descent smoke
Calli Connection - Headband hermied at week 7, was not a great smoke - tasted bitter
Barney's Farm - Vanilla Kush - just bad growth, harvested at 10 weeks and it developed no trichromes, poor smoke
Green House - Cheese, extremely low producer but the smoke I and everyone who tasted it loved
Now I must say I have also had excellent harvests before and after these unfortunate problems, again I have never claimed there are not better nor worse than GHS..and obviously yes I do need that grinder and tee-shirt, got the coffee mug twice already!
Article pictures are up, GHS right in the thick of things!
regards,
FOUR20 SWG
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Well, the proof is in the picture I suppose. I know when i'm wrong, so let me start by saying my bad on that account. Your were right about the Top 10.
Every dog has his day, or in my case, off-day.
But I still stand by my statement of GH having a weak-line overall. I've grown 2 of their strains (Big Bang and AMS) both weak in taste, smell, potentcy. My brother grew the SLH and The Church. Then when you start racking up the extended fam, homeboys, fellow patients, and people from the dispensaries who I compare notes with it gets to be a pretty short list that hasn't been tried. So far nobodies had a goodthing to say.
And then there's the staggering numbers of people who have told of similar outcomes. Can you honestly disregard them all?
GH was cool when I was 17. Now I know to avoid.
If you had a good experience, or HT's got a good batch from them, awesome. But I will never again put myself through that, and if I can help other people avoid it then i've done good by the World.
Every dog has his day, or in my case, off-day.
But I still stand by my statement of GH having a weak-line overall. I've grown 2 of their strains (Big Bang and AMS) both weak in taste, smell, potentcy. My brother grew the SLH and The Church. Then when you start racking up the extended fam, homeboys, fellow patients, and people from the dispensaries who I compare notes with it gets to be a pretty short list that hasn't been tried. So far nobodies had a goodthing to say.
And then there's the staggering numbers of people who have told of similar outcomes. Can you honestly disregard them all?
GH was cool when I was 17. Now I know to avoid.
If you had a good experience, or HT's got a good batch from them, awesome. But I will never again put myself through that, and if I can help other people avoid it then i've done good by the World.