Greenpoint seeds!!

macsnax

macsnax

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rollitup said:
hehehe, yeah you've noticed that some members are just not at that level, and they naturally revolt when faced with info that is too much for them to comprehend. Like the Stooges said, it's a tin roof.

They put you on their ignore list because your posts make their head hurt. :lol:

Keep on keepin' on Man. Others appreciate your info, and most of the experienced growers agree with you.


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I wish I could put it so nicely. Gotta hit the encyclopedia and up my weird game, I mean word game.......
 
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Khyber420

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Dad223 said:
Simon Fraser University has white paper with 71 cited sources alone. This isn’t ‘I think it might be’ stoner science any more guys. Read a peer reviewed article once in a while (even go outside of Cannabis to broaden your understanding).

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Did you even read the study you posted? I suggest you flip to the discussion section and their key findings and I quote:

"The results from the present study suggest that one cycle of selfing to produce feminized seed (Lubell and Brand, 2018) has no measurable impact on genetic diversity in that population."

1. They also make absolutely no conclusions about a hermaphrodite gene in cannabis and how hermaphrodic inflorescenses are triggered on female plants. They do make a few suggestions that we are all familiar with, e.g. environmental stress and hormonal triggers.

2. No where do the authors of the study even remotely suggest that there are some cultivars that are impossible to trigger a hermaphrodic response in due to a lack of hemaphriditic genetics.

3. As previously stated they don't even suggest that selfing or feminized crosses have significantly different genetics than regular crosses.

You seem to be making a lot of claims that are not supported by the paper you posted, in fact a lot of their conclusions contradict what you're suggesting. Yet your going around looking down on "stoner science" acting like you're in the science club, but forgive me if I've missed something here because your own cited scientific evidence suggests otherwise.

But regardless thanks for linking the study, great read.
 
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Dad223

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Khyber420 said:
Did you even read the study you posted? I suggest you flip to the discussion section and their key findings and I quote:

"The results from the present study suggest that one cycle of selfing to produce feminized seed (Lubell and Brand, 2018) has no measurable impact on genetic diversity in that population."

1. They also make absolutely no conclusions about a hermaphrodite gene in cannabis and how hermaphrodic inflorescenses are triggered on female plants. They do make a few suggestions that we are all familiar with, e.g. environmental stress and hormonal triggers.

2. No where do the authors of the study even remotely suggest that there are some cultivars that are impossible to trigger a hermaphrodic response in due to a lack of hemaphriditic genetics.

3. As previously stated they don't even suggest that selfing or feminized crosses have significantly different genetics than regular crosses.

You seem to be making a lot of claims that are not supported by the paper you posted, in fact a lot of their conclusions contradict what you're suggesting. Yet your going around looking down on "stoner science" acting like you're in the science club, but forgive me if I've missed something here because your own cited scientific evidence suggests otherwise.

But regardless thanks for linking the study, great read.
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Genetic diversity and referencing the chances of a specific genome becoming dominate are two different things. You’re taking it out of context and comparing apples to oranges. I gave one paper to highlight one aspect. There are many other white papers to back up what I’m saying (there is also a lot of backwards info out there to support opposing opinions that are NOT university level or peer reviewed).

I never said it effects the diversity. If anything, this makes it MORE diverse by adding a mutated genome.

Listen to yourself:
They also make absolutely no conclusions about a hermaphrodite gene in cannabis and how hermaphrodic inflorescenses are triggered on female plants.

*IN THE NEXT breath you describe the conclusions about how hermaphrodite inflorescences ARE
triggered!*

They do make a few suggestions that we are all familiar with, e.g. environmental stress and hormonal triggers.

Gee, hormonal triggers. That wouldn’t mean hormones would it Batman? As in Genomes?:clap:
 
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Dad223

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Not only do genes code for hormones, but hormones regulate genes. In particular, steroid hormones (such as cortisol, estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone) bind to intracellular receptors that act as genetic transcription factors that directly regulate gene expression.

The Roles of Plant Hormones and Their Interactions with Regulatory Genes in Determining Meristem Activity

 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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@Dad223
Why don't you start a thread in the appropriate subforum to discuss your theories?

Some of us troglodytes - you know the subhuman polyhybrid poppin masses, enjoy our bud porn, showing off our seed purchases and living in our little realms of reality.

I think I'll post some Greenpoint specific bud porn now, to show off my cultivating insecurities.
That's why I have a thing for big buds after all.

Dream Catcher
Got to love Blue Dream crosses


Snake Oil
Those diesel genetics can yield some torpedoes!
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Dad223

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Khyber420 said:
Did you even read the study you posted? I suggest you flip to the discussion section and their key findings and I quote:

"The results from the present study suggest that one cycle of selfing to produce feminized seed (Lubell and Brand, 2018) has no measurable impact on genetic diversity in that population."

1. They also make absolutely no conclusions about a hermaphrodite gene in cannabis and how hermaphrodic inflorescenses are triggered on female plants. They do make a few suggestions that we are all familiar with, e.g. environmental stress and hormonal triggers.

2. No where do the authors of the study even remotely suggest that there are some cultivars that are impossible to trigger a hermaphrodic response in due to a lack of hemaphriditic genetics.

3. As previously stated they don't even suggest that selfing or feminized crosses have significantly different genetics than regular crosses.
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Wrong on so many levels. What you incorrectly referenced as the concluding fact was actually the prelude to the study detective NOT the conclusion. How about we read the full article next time. If you would’ve read the full thing, that was the first generation in reference to genetic diversity. They continue to inbreed those together and entire GENES are lost by inbreeding this hermaphrodite cultivar.

Increased inbreeding (through selfing) and reduced frequency of polymorphic loci can result in lower levels of expected heterozygosity, particularly in small, isolated self-compatible plant species (Cole, 2003).

Loss of heterozygosity is a cross chromosomal event that results in loss of the entire gene and the surrounding chromosomal region.
 
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Northeastbudz

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Dad223 said:
Wrong on so many levels. What you incorrectly referenced as the concluding fact was actually the prelude to the study detective NOT the conclusion. How about we read the full article next time. If you would’ve read the full thing, that was the first generation in reference to genetic diversity. They continue to inbreed those together and entire GENES are lost by inbreeding this hermaphrodite cultivars.

Increased inbreeding (through selfing) and reduced frequency of polymorphic loci can result in lower levels of expected heterozygosity, particularly in small, isolated self-compatible plant species (Cole, 2003).

Loss of heterozygosity is a cross chromosomal event that results in loss of the entire gene and the surrounding chromosomal region.
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You are cluttering this thread with your little temper tantrum. Cant you take it somewhere more appropriate.
 
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Dad223

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ChronicWonders. said:
Keep posting science based peer reviewed articles you clearly don’t comprehend...they aren’t proving your point.

Maybe you should have done some of this due diligence before making a purchase? Crying about false advertisement/unstable genetics and then go back to them for a handout...brilliant.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
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I don’t comprehend them and yet I’m breaking it down for you in digestible bites. That just means it’s too much for you to chew, don’t speak for the community as a whole please.

What handout are you referencing? Making something up doesn’t make it true junior.
 
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Dad223

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I paid for the Bison Breath BEFORE the issue at hand. He refunded my money and since it was already shipped he told me those were my replacements. Like so many things, misunderstanding so much.
 
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