Greenwood Massacre aka Tulsa Race Riots - 1921
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Rob Roy
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Taxation is theft. It's not possible to be anything else.
Can you delegate a right that you don't possess ? No, you can't. It is impossible for you to disprove this.
Since you can't delegate a right you don't possess, the only way you can try to justify theft is to change the name of it to taxation and say "it's the way we've always done it" "but what about the roads" etc.
If my view is nonsensical, start with explaining how anyone could delegate a right they don't possess, because that is a logical requisite of a coercion based tax / theft system.
Rob Roy
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A person inherits a house. They get a tax bill. You lose, again.
UncleBuck
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No one forced you to take custody of that house. You chose to
Rob Roy
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hanimmal
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You almost have a point, all of the racist government policies right now are being directed at the brown people communities.
Black people and other minority communities along with women have been governmentally kept out of the countries economic growth until very recently. Are you talking about prior to 1970? Because that was when the Republicans abandoned anything not the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male agenda, deciding to just call it socialism. Since then the Democrats have had to legislate for everyone in the county, the Not Only Wealthy White Heterosexual Males of our country.
Rob Roy
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What if you were born in the house and/or lived there already ?
f series
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Don't divide your hate. Focus on one then move on
UncleBuck
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Ban all Muslims and lock kids in cages. But lovingly
Unclebaldrick
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Maybe they should have raked their neighborhood better.I decided to watch the new show "Watchmen" on HBO and was caught off guard with the opening scene:
Turns out it was highly accurate in showing the Tulsa Race Riots (Greenwood Massacre is another name of it) in 1921. Where the white people completely destroyed a vibrant wealthy black neighborhood in Tulsa Oklahoma.
Turning it into a war zone that completely leveled the 35 blocks that the community was in.
10k black homeless from this at least 300 black people thrown into mass graves from this.
So to anyone that thinks studying reparations is a bad idea I would just say that things our government allowed white people to do to the minorities of our country have led to the severe difference in our ability to have a chance at what is the American dream until far too recently. Helping our fellow countrymen and women improve their lives does not hurt the rest of the people, it would actually help us all.
hanimmal
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They tick off the white and wealthy, but it is not like they have legislation aimed at their uterus not belonging to their husbands until relatively recently.
Just like a latino man might like things the Republicans offer, but it is not that the legislation is aimed at helping Latino's it is just a byproduct.
The only people looking to divide us is the the trolls Trump has asked Putin to continue to attack us with.
Ignorance is just as dangerous, and generally is needed to have hate.
kgp
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Actually it wasn't racism. It was society. In the days of slavery, it was a common practice. Slaves have been around since the existence of mankind. Many were from conquered empires. Many black cultures had black slaves. Instead of reparations why not commend the mass amount of effort that many of all colors have fought to end? The progress that has made and all the lives sacrificed for human rights is a great step in the right direction. We will never right all the wrongs of the past. The past is done. The future is where we can all try and be fair not putting race over the integrity of each individual person, giving everyone a fair chance to make their own decisions in life. Hard work and dedication will always surpass the "poor me" approach. Anyone can succeed in life by making the right choices and doing what they have to do to take care of themselves and the lives they create.
hanimmal
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What are reparations in your mind?
The past is done, it doesn't mean like Trump, nobody can do anything to make anything right today though.
Your clouding racism with the reasoning behind using our resources to get the black communities that we have used the government to systematically keep from the same prosperity that white people had full benefit of for too long. Your thinking that this doesn't benefit white people is wrong, this will benefit all of America far more than it would cost for these programs.
Racists push the narrative that this is somehow giving shit to lazy people, that is wrong and should be understood as just a division tactic.
kgp
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I go by the definition. "the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged"
Used in a sentence "the courts required a convicted offender to make financial reparation to his victim" I dont know of any offender or victim that is alive today.
If there is a living slave owner that did wrong by owning a slave, I believe that person should pay reparations to the individual that was a slave of the convicted offender.
I don't think this is the case for modern society. "my clouding racism"? In fact, I am not arguing race, you are...
Its 2019 and all the talk about race is racism. If you think a race of citizen needs extra or more than another race, you are the racist by definition "a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another."
I believe every man is created equal. The land of the free, the home of the brave. The land of opportunity. I believe anything can be accomplished by those who set a goal and strive to make it reality. Notice I didn't use race. If you lift up one race and not another you are judging and catering to humans of a specific race or color of their skin, the same way the whites did when there was slavery. No race is superior. All people should be treated exactly as equal and judged on merit and should get what they give. A hard working black should have a better life than a lazy white and vice versa.
hanimmal
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I am arguing what has been done to a race of people to keep them from achieving in life what the white people in our country has been able to. Education, land ownership, employment, voting rights, criminal justice, every aspect of our country was used to do this.
This new racist troll that racism doesn't exist except for people talking about making our society a fair playing field and that everything aimed to bring up our struggling communities out of poverty is being spammed to the vulnerable white people who feel the way you do. This has nothing to do with feeling one race is superior from my side of this issue, it is that the government was used to keep the vast majority of black people (and other minority communities) in poverty for centuries in our country.
Should have a better life? Why? Is it the guy busting rocks that is paid better or the owner of the company that sits in air conditioning all day? You are confusing racists shit with helping our communities to have the same access that the wealthier neighborhoods have to the American dream.
How much land do you think the grand fathers of black people are able to hand down to their families vs white families in America? How was the property values kept elevated so white people could earn more money as the economy increased. How about education, healthcare, criminal justice, all used by our government to wrong the black community. There is no question that there was severe wrong doing by our government and that by doing the right thing and getting these communities to the level of development that they should be in our society will benefit us all greatly.
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