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anon1122

anon1122

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Built a couple small bubble cloners and bought two small 75w t8 lights. Rigged it up inside a dresser so it's all stealth-like. We'll see how that goes. Waiting on my seeds from attitude. hopefully tomorrow. fingers crossed...

Going back to HTG this week to get a 600 sunmaster conversion mh, and a 600 watt sunmaster hps. And maybe some light hangers that work better than these pieces of shit I have.

So yeah, this week is go time! I'm gonna need you guys, you with me?
 
smokingrubber

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Take it one step at a time bro. Get the seeds . . . germ the seeds . . . talk to the sprouts . . . not too much water . . . not too much light . . . love the ladies ;) You're 4 or more weeks from needing the MH setup. Let them make Happy under the floro's til they're about a foot tall. Then, let there be LIGHT.

Did you germ the bagseed already or are you going to start everything at the same time? How many seeds are you going to do? Do you have access to clones in your area?
 
anon1122

anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
Take it one step at a time bro. Get the seeds . . . germ the seeds . . . talk to the sprouts . . . not too much water . . . not too much light . . . love the ladies ;) You're 4 or more weeks from needing the MH setup. Let them make Happy under the floro's til they're about a foot tall. Then, let there be LIGHT.

Did you germ the bagseed already or are you going to start everything at the same time? How many seeds are you going to do? Do you have access to clones in your area?
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Got the seeds today. Going to start germing them in a while. Will the two 75 watt t8's be enough? Im thinking about putting them into the hydrofarm running one flood a day and keeping the hps up high. then switch to mh as soon as I get the conversion bulb.
 
smokingrubber

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I haven't flooded them that early, so I don't know what will happen. I've killed my fair share by over-watering though. That may be too much for the young sprouts to handle. IMO you should stick them in there and just spray by hand for a few weeks.

T8's should be fine if they're at least a foot away.

Write down your process and keep a log so that you can repeat or adjust your process effectively. You think you'd remember that stuff, but after a few months have gone by and you've had several harvests, it's easy to forget small details. If you have problems, you can easily relate your steps to (forum) experts and get solid advise. And you'll be able to see what you've done differently from one grow to the next and see their results.
 
laserbrn

laserbrn

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smokingrubber said:
I haven't flooded them that early, so I don't know what will happen. I've killed my fair share by over-watering though. That may be too much for the young sprouts to handle. IMO you should stick them in there and just spray by hand for a few weeks.

T8's should be fine if they're at least a foot away.

Write down your process and keep a log so that you can repeat or adjust your process effectively. You think you'd remember that stuff, but after a few months have gone by and you've had several harvests, it's easy to forget small details. If you have problems, you can easily relate your steps to (forum) experts and get solid advise. And you'll be able to see what you've done differently from one grow to the next and see their results.
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I'm not an expert on T8's, but my T5 HO's need to be about 24" in from seedlings. I also don't flood that early at all. Hand water for a while. Only water when they are dry, but don't go too long. In small rockwool cubes I have to water about once a day and just enough to keep the rockwool moist. I'd say after a week or two (about 3 real sets of leaves) put them on the flood.
 
anon1122

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laserbrn said:
I'm not an expert on T8's, but my T5 HO's need to be about 24" in from seedlings. I also don't flood that early at all. Hand water for a while. Only water when they are dry, but don't go too long. In small rockwool cubes I have to water about once a day and just enough to keep the rockwool moist. I'd say after a week or two (about 3 real sets of leaves) put them on the flood.
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How long before I start mild nutes? What ppm should I start them out at and at what point in time? I used to grow clones in WA, but now with things how they are in my current locale, that is not an option, so I am new at growing from seed. Thanks!
 
laserbrn

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3 white widows are germinating now. I kept 2 to fall back on if needed.
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You don't need nutes for awhile. I start them at 50ppm and work them over 4 days to 200ppm. I don't start until I actually either A) see the first signs of hungry plants or B) the plant has 3 or 4 nodes. I leave them at 200-300ppm for a week or two. They are really quite happy generally on minimal nutes. Then I start bumping them up by 50ppm per day until I reach 600ppm and I leave them there until flower.
 
smokingrubber

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laserbrn said:
You don't need nutes for awhile. I start them at 50ppm and work them over 4 days to 200ppm. I don't start until I actually either A) see the first signs of hungry plants or B) the plant has 3 or 4 nodes. I leave them at 200-300ppm for a week or two. They are really quite happy generally on minimal nutes. Then I start bumping them up by 50ppm per day until I reach 600ppm and I leave them there until flower.
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That sounds about right to me. I go with no nutes for about a week (the clone juice and spray has root hormone in it). The next week they get 50% nutes, then they go on the drip feeder at 75% grow nute. One week at 75% then they get 100% till flower (900-1100ppm). When they go to flower, the ppm is 1500.

My only problem has been finding a nute recipe that works for everyone. When you've got 4 different strains, someone isn't happy. I'm trying to weed out the strains that don't do well in my garden, but you can't tell till you do it.
 
laserbrn

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yeah, I tried growing WW and Blue Cheese at the same time and it was a disaster. The White Widow was starving and the Blue Cheese was choking from over feeding. This go around I'm just doing the white widow by itself. No room for those that can't keep up. Oh, and this DP White Widow is the shit, so it was an easy choice.
 
anon1122

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Yeah, the 3 widows are germing now since last night, I wanna go check on them all the time. The paper towel dried out a little bit today, but I moistened it again. Im just hoping they pop soon. I have the other seeds stored away for later on. how long for germination 24-48?
 
laserbrn

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anon1122 said:
Yeah, the 3 widows are germing now since last night, I wanna go check on them all the time. The paper towel dried out a little bit today, but I moistened it again. Im just hoping they pop soon. I have the other seeds stored away for later on. how long for germination 24-48?
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Just put the seeds directly in your medium, wet it and forget it man! Don't mess with this paper towel business.
 
smokingrubber

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I just drop them in a cup of distilled water (about an inch of water in a dixie). Place them in the dark and they pop in about 36-48 hours. Mr. Green's method. Works every time.
 
anon1122

anon1122

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One popped open but I put all 3 into rockwool and gently covered the opening. I turned on the t8's and put them roughly 4 inches above the rockwool. Sound good?
 
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How is that fan and filter?

I just bought a homebox XL 4x4x6? and Im on a budget... that fan looks to be a sweet price with the right specs.... how does it function though?... you said you regret getting the tent because you skimped on it.
 
anon1122

anon1122

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steven22 said:
How is that fan and filter?

I just bought a homebox XL 4x4x6? and Im on a budget... that fan looks to be a sweet price with the right specs.... how does it function though?... you said you regret getting the tent because you skimped on it.
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Fan is great, but the filter is fucking HUGE. Yes for the fan, look for a different filter.
 
smokingrubber

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anon1122 said:
One popped open but I put all 3 into rockwool and gently covered the opening. I turned on the t8's and put them roughly 4 inches above the rockwool. Sound good?
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4 inches? NO. Try 18-24 inches away for the first week. Make sure you have a fan on low (not high enough to dry out the rockwool in 10 minutes). After the first week, you can start to feed them some nutes and lower the light.
 
laserbrn

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smokingrubber said:
4 inches? NO. Try 18-24 inches away for the first week. Make sure you have a fan on low (not high enough to dry out the rockwool in 10 minutes). After the first week, you can start to feed them some nutes and lower the light.
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Agreed....24" my man. Don't put that light right down on them yet. It'll just slow them down.
 
anon1122

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smokingrubber said:
Anon, you regret getting the tent? Why?

I just bought this tent: http://www.hydroponicsoutlet.com/GrowLab-145-p/syseigl145.htm

And this hydro system: http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=4490

I'll be setting it all up in about 2 weeks. I was excited, but why do you regret getting it?
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That is the tent I wish I would have gotten. The one I got is cheap and has almost NO support for any kind of weight.

That hydro system looks solid though. Should be able to grow some TREES with that. Im going small for my first one though using the hydrofarm.

I raised the lights up. All 3 have cracked, 2 have their seed casings poking out, so anytime now...
 
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