Hans Panel vs Apollo 6

hyroot said:

bysen will make the spectrum to what ever you want. if your a company that rersells lights .the manufacturer will change out led's if requested

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So what about individuals? I need only one light . I did send an email, hopefully will hear back.

hyroot said:

oohhhh i thought that was one of chrons bad jokes

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Nah....its one of hydro growz ideas...which is actually a bad joke...

hyroot said:

bysen will make the spectrum to what ever you want. if your a company that rersells lights .the manufacturer will change out led's if requested

those hgl i think are made by e shine or budzilla. their old penetrator model is made by bysen

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The hgl sol looks like these lamps.
http://ledaquagrow.com/productshow.asp?bid=17&tid=17&sid=17&id=5

LEDmania said:

The hgl sol looks like these lamps.
http://ledaquagrow.com/productshow.asp?bid=17&tid=17&sid=17&id=5

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Those are just two 50 watt flood lights with red and blue LEDs

HrilL said:

Those are just two 50 watt flood lights with red and blue LEDs

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And so are these: http://www.hydrogrowled.com/Sol-2---100W-LED-Grow-Light-P160C59.aspx

For $429 no less...

brotherjericho said:

And so are these: http://www.hydrogrowled.com/Sol-2---100W-LED-Grow-Light-P160C59.aspx

For $429 no less...

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You can make that same light minus the casing for $100 or less. 2 50w arrays.

hyroot said:

You can make that same light minus the casing for $100 or less. 2 50w arrays.

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I know, that's what made me laugh when I saw those things. I think they are actually using 100w arrays and powering them to 50w, but that's just a guess. You can buy multi-band arrays on alibaba.


http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/743510819/100w_plant_led_chip_7_band.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/839058886/Led_integrated_chip_red_660nm_blue.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/739311843/50w_grow_lamp_bead_7_band.html

I was going through the Apollo thread earlier and noticed a few people going with 1 730nm. Is that even worthwhile? Whoever I decided to go with (have not heard back from Bysen), I was thinking a mixture of 3000k, 5000k, 630nm and 660nm. If Apollo, 2:3:4:6.

brotherjericho said:

I was going through the Apollo thread earlier and noticed a few people going with 1 730nm. Is that even worthwhile? Whoever I decided to go with (have not heard back from Bysen), I was thinking a mixture of 3000k, 5000k, 630nm and 660nm. If Apollo, 2:3:4:6.

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After toying around, I think I'm getting close to a final spectrum. This is what I'm leaning towards: http://buildmyled.com/custom-report-details/?partNo=PS1290S101AAAALTTTTTTTSSS

Hopefully this thing has some decent accuracy in predicting the PPF spectrum in air...think it might do me well in flower.

EDIT: Not getting a light from this ^ just using the tool to figure out my potential set-up.

brotherjericho said:

I was going through the Apollo thread earlier and noticed a few people going with 1 730nm. Is that even worthwhile? Whoever I decided to go with (have not heard back from Bysen), I was thinking a mixture of 3000k, 5000k, 630nm and 660nm. If Apollo, 2:3:4:6.

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Hijacked from Feroled's site;

The Emerson Effect was observed using wavelengths of 630, 660, and 730. This is a study that is cited in nearly all modern plant growth studies that relate to the use of specific wavelength of red light and the interaction with far red and infrared.
Emerson ran a series of experiments back in the 60s where he exposed plants to lights at different wavelengths. The conclusion – known as the Emerson effect – was that there are two different photosystems (PS1 & PS2) involved in photosynthesis, which combine to enhance efficiency:
With PS1 and PS2 in play, The light excites the chlorophyll molecules at the reaction center and causes an increase in energy. As the molecule becomes less excited, its energy is transported through a chain of electron carriers to the next photosystem which does much the same thing and produces energy-carrying organic molecules.

The best way to achieve the Emerson effect is by using an infrared (or nearfarred) wavelength of above 700nm in order to accelerate the interaction of molecular energy especially with the reds and deep reds: thus bumping up bud production.

2 6500k
1 430
2 455
1 630
4 640
4 660
1 730

Thanks, still not sure if I am going to bother with it myself though...

hyroot said:

Bysen are supposedly better than cidly. The Helios and the penetrator come from there. Ive seen some journals on ic rag with good results on the penetrator. But never seen the Helios. Except in grow blu's you tube channel.

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Some additional comments on this. Bysen will do custom jobs, but they will push you away from Helios towards their X2 models, so no Cree at all in that case.

And the Growblu is Apollo not Helios, but I'm not certain that is what is being implied in your quote, though I don't see anything about Helios in growblu's videos.

Growblu used to carry e shine and bysen. They have comparison videos on you tube of all 3 lights from their first published grow.

Fyi to all interested, Bysen drives their LEDs at 500ma.