Harris/Trump debate 2024

Farmer's Hat

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Its really easy to find articles to support our own bias, and that is a concerning thing. How does anyone actually sift through all the lies and get to the actual facts? Its practically impossible to do that, because people can and will lie in order to ensure their agendas stay in motion.

Control is the only thing that consolidated power is concerned about. All political parties are oblivious to what the people actually want.
 

Nugnewbie

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Its really easy to find articles to support our own bias, and that is a concerning thing. How does anyone actually sift through all the lies and get to the actual facts? Its practically impossible to do that, because people can and will lie in order to ensure their agendas stay in motion.

Control is the only thing that consolidated power is concerned about. All political parties are oblivious to what the people actually want.
Um, sure.
 

Nugnewbie

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Yes, bias is out there for sure, and in the good old USA, people are allowed to have certain biases, without persecution.

To be honest, I didn't know diddly about Robert Epstein until you mentioned his name in your post. So, i searched and found the article i posted, as well as a couple others. I also read the wiki on him. From what I could gather fairly quickly is that his google study was basically debunked. Trump and other repubs claimed his study as gospel.

You also mentioned your opinion that it is too difficult to sort truth from fiction. I'm not finding it particularly difficult to determine that Haitian migrants are not eating other people's pets. Did that seem biased to you? Well of course. I'm biased towards the truth. I'm not overly educated, but don't consider myself stupid. To be fair, our opinions are miles apart. I don't fear politicians whose talking points and policies make sense and are meant to move a country and it's people forward. Politicians who fear monger and "otherize" people who don't fit their mold scare me, but I'm white, and male, so I can't imagine what it feels like to actually be the other.

As far as creating conflict and division, lol..., well it's very easy to see who does that on a regular basis.

It sounds to me that you are trying to turn people from voting at all with your opinions. So, you sound frustrated. Just a thought. Interested to hear your response.
 

Farmer's Hat

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It sounds to me that you are trying to turn people from voting at all with your opinions. So, you sound frustrated. Just a thought. Interested to hear your response.
Obviously voting matters... I think. If there was a way to actually prove that elections are not rigged, most Americans would be more trusting and involved. Common sense suggests that if a person(s) within an organization can manipulate or alter data without getting caught, they will. Its just basic human behavior.

My general opinion is that its better to ask questions and remain a free thinker. Choosing a side/team almost guarantees a dogmatic irrational approach to questions that require a bigger scope of thinking. Tribalism is very unproductive, in my opinion.
 

Farmer's Hat

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Yes, bias is out there for sure, and in the good old USA, people are allowed to have certain biases, without persecution.
Mind you I dont lean left or right. I ask questions, keep an open mind, and pursue Truth. Here is a simple way to really get my point across, regarding bias. What is the truth? And why is everyone shouting that they are fact checking the opposing "team"?
To a free thinker like myself, its all very entertaining.

If this video was misinformation, it would be taken down. That is YouTube policy, correct?


Again I ask... WHAT IS THE TRUTH? :eyesmoke:
 

livinthadream

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Mind you I dont lean left or right. I ask questions, keep an open mind, and pursue Truth. Here is a simple way to really get my point across, regarding bias. What is the truth? And why is everyone shouting that they are fact checking the opposing "team"?
To a free thinker like myself, its all very entertaining.

If this video was misinformation, it would be taken down. That is YouTube policy, correct?


Again I ask... WHAT IS THE TRUTH? :eyesmoke:
So entertaining
 
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