Have you ever had to deal with a sociopath?

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cannabisguru

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i live under the same roof as one, they lie, steal , cheat are heartless and have no conscience or respect for anyone or anything.they think the laws don't apply to them. and yes its a family member. he needs to go, he just stole over 500.00 from me and doesn't give a rats ass
I had a "friend" of mine that I knew for over 12 years... I kicked it with him almost EVERY single day of the year. But as the years progressed by... I started to get a bad energy vibe from the guy.. he was just always lying.. he would lie to his momma if he had to.. in order to get what he wanted. I wish I would have had the foresight to see what a bad egg this cat really was... but I didn't listen to my intuition/gut which kept telling me something just didn't add up with this dude. But, being the naturally friendly person I am.. I just never really paid much attention to it.

And then.. about 3 years ago... the same person I thought was my best friend (like a fucking brother to me man..)... ended up being the one that nark'd on me. In fact, when the bust happened... he was even THERE at the scene!! And yet.. after I got out of jail and got home.. my cell phone started ringing.. sure enough it was the mother fucker that nark'd on me!! So I answered it... and would you believe he had the fucking balls/nerve to say on the phone "What the fuck was that all about!!?"

Pffft... please... I mean really?!?!? He was there... I talked to him face to face!!! and yet he still acted like he didn't know what happened. For Christs sake man.. the mother fucker even rode with the undercover cop... in the undercover cops CAR!!! the day I got busted!!!

But, its alright... I took care of his ass. ;) Well, DHS and the State Police took care of him for me..... he ended up losing his kids. I know he has an idea of who made the anon. call to DHS... but he can't prove it. Must be driving him crazy right about now eh? Karma's a motherfucker.. ;)

Fuck me? Nah.... fuck YOU!. Capeche?

But yeah, if you were to look up the definition of 'Sociopath' - I'm sure you'd see his picture right next to the definition.

I feel sorry for you though Woody... having to actually live with a sociopath. I'd go crazy if I lived with one... sheeeesh.

Good luck to ya though..

peace.
 

WoodyHaze

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I had a "friend" of mine that I knew for over 12 years... I kicked it with him almost EVERY single day of the year. But as the years progressed by... I started to get a bad energy vibe from the guy.. he was just always lying.. he would lie to his momma if he had to.. in order to get what he wanted. I wish I would have had the foresight to see what a bad egg this cat really was... but I didn't listen to my intuition/gut which kept telling me something just didn't add up with this dude. But, being the naturally friendly person I am.. I just never really paid much attention to it.

And then.. about 3 years ago... the same person I thought was my best friend (like a fucking brother to me man..)... ended up being the one that nark'd on me. In fact, when the bust happened... he was even THERE at the scene!! And yet.. after I got out of jail and got home.. my cell phone started ringing.. sure enough it was the mother fucker that nark'd on me!! So I answered it... and would you believe he had the fucking balls/nerve to say on the phone "What the fuck was that all about!!?"

Pffft... please... I mean really?!?!? He was there... I talked to him face to face!!! and yet he still acted like he didn't know what happened. For Christs sake man.. the mother fucker even rode with the undercover cop... in the undercover cops CAR!!! the day I got busted!!!

But, its alright... I took care of his ass. ;) Well, DHS and the State Police took care of him for me..... he ended up losing his kids. I know he has an idea of who made the anon. call to DHS... but he can't prove it. Must be driving him crazy right about now eh? Karma's a motherfucker.. ;)

Fuck me? Nah.... fuck YOU!. Capeche?

But yeah, if you were to look up the definition of 'Sociopath' - I'm sure you'd see his picture right next to the definition.

I feel sorry for you though Woody... having to actually live with a sociopath. I'd go crazy if I lived with one... sheeeesh.

Good luck to ya though..

peace.
yea, i kicked him out last night and this is difficult to say....he is my son. it's funny but i feel somehow i failed him. it breaks my heart and i feel lkie crying..........damn man................
 

april

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yea, i kicked him out last night and this is difficult to say....he is my son. it's funny but i feel somehow i failed him. it breaks my heart and i feel lkie crying..........damn man................
Aww don't cry !! You did not fail him, he failed himself, as a parent you can only guide him, he makes his own choices and lives his own life, but i hope he sees the light and makes changes in his life.But i am sorry for how you feel
 

dannyboy602

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You only failed him if you quit loving him too. Which you haven't, have you?
Tough love works. It just makes you feel guilty.
 

Devildog93

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But, its alright... I took care of his ass. ;) Well, DHS and the State Police took care of him for me..... he ended up losing his kids. I know he has an idea of who made the anon. call to DHS... but he can't prove it. Must be driving him crazy right about now eh? Karma's a motherfucker.. ;)
That's not karma.....that's straight up revenge. Cold blooded at that.
 

Jeffdt1966

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Sorry to hear about that .... I have a 16 yr. old son who doesnt sound too far behind yours .... I have to padlock my bedroom door to protect my change , cigs , stash , ect ...... Its sad and we always feel like we failed somehow - I know I do . The funny thing is though - I have a daughter a few yrs. older who is open , honest , did great in school , frowns deeply upon thiefs .. just really well adjusted teenager - same upbringing , raised side by side , same parents .... Go figure ?
 

WoodyHaze

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Aww don't cry !! You did not fail him, he failed himself, as a parent you can only guide him, he makes his own choices and lives his own life, but i hope he sees the light and makes changes in his life.But i am sorry for how you feel[/

thank you April, but as a parent, when something goes wrong, we tend to think 'where did i fail'? i am all knotted up right now, don't feel real good, but maybe some day he will realize that i do love him, but i doubt it..............................
 

Corso312

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hey man i would not blame yourself, i know quite a few good families who raised their kids good and for some reason one of the kids got hooked on smack or crack, you have to hit rock bottom before you get help and get clean..offer him rehab in treatment it may not work but it may help. believe it or not kicking him out was good for both of you..you can not enable a junkie
 

WoodyHaze

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Sorry to hear about that .... I have a 16 yr. old son who doesnt sound too far behind yours .... I have to padlock my bedroom door to protect my change , cigs , stash , ect ...... Its sad and we always feel like we failed somehow - I know I do . The funny thing is though - I have a daughter a few yrs. older who is open , honest , did great in school , frowns deeply upon thiefs .. just really well adjusted teenager - same upbringing , raised side by side , same parents .... Go figure ?
i have a daughter too, she is 5 yrs younger than my son, did no where as good as he did in school but she is doing very well. how does someone go thru college ,is able to pass a CPA test, not have anything to show for it? he is not a teenager thats going thru a spell, he is 30.
 

WoodyHaze

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hey man i would not blame yourself, i know quite a few good families who raised their kids good and for some reason one of the kids got hooked on smack or crack, you have to hit rock bottom before you get help and get clean..offer him rehab in treatment it may not work but it may help. believe it or not kicking him out was good for both of you..you can not enable a junkie
all of his life he didn't want for anything, probably spoiled,i think thats why he feels 'entitled'. he never really worked for anything, except college
 

Corso312

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i have a daughter too, she is 5 yrs younger than my son, did no where as good as he did in school but she is doing very well. how does someone go thru college ,is able to pass a CPA test, not have anything to show for it? he is not a teenager thats going thru a spell, he is 30.


drugs, seriously..crack and heroin and meth is a one way trip downhill
 

smokey green

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I feel for you man...My 12 yr. old is really starting to test me...I keep having talks with him but theres only so much you can do...It seems you can do your best and try to guide your children the best way you know how, but in the end, their the ones that make the choices...weather right or wrong... All we can do is try our hardest and try n show them the right path. But in reality we cant force them to take the right road...The choice is theirs, and that fucking sucks....Alls one can do is hope for the best..You sound like a good guy and im willing to bet you gave him support and love as much as any good father... It seems he will have to learn the hard way...Dont hate yourself and feel guilty for his actions...Take care man...Hopefully he will come around...
 

WoodyHaze

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I feel for you man...My 12 yr. old is really starting to test me...I keep having talks with him but theres only so much you can do...It seems you can do your best and try to guide your children the best way you know how, but in the end, their the ones that make the choices...weather right or wrong... All we can do is try our hardest and try n show them the right path. But in reality we cant force them to take the right road...The choice is theirs, and that fucking sucks....Alls one can do is hope for the best..You sound like a good guy and im willing to bet you gave him support and love as much as any good father... It seems he will have to learn the hard way...Dont hate yourself and feel guilty for his actions...Take care man...Hopefully he will come around...
thank you, but you ,as a parent, know how we are, we want the best for our children and want them to be happy, the problem is , he is bringing me down with him
 

WoodyHaze

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drugs, seriously..crack and heroin and meth is a one way trip downhill
yea ,crack and heroine for sure, i don't think meth but so what. he showed all the signs of sociopathy b4 he did all that . i asked him 'why do heroine'? he said 'you just don't understand'....and he was right, i don't
 

Stoner Smurf

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sociopath or crackhead? this sounds like junkie behavior. most true sociopathic behavior is way beyond stealing.
some cases i've looked into were extremely violent/angry.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Sociopaths get off on your pain, addicts get off on your money. If an addict could steal your money and make you feel like you're walking on sunshine, they would. Well the inverse is true for a sociopath, if they could make you rich but miserable he would. Addicts may do wicked and evil shit, but usually they still feel remorse. It's just the compulsion to use is so over powering. It is extremely hard to overcome an addiction, especially by yourself with little to no support and no tools.

I have a nephew like that. He's in prison. Best place for him.
It's a shame you feel that way. There's no rehabilitation in prison. So saying that's the best place for him is saying he is a lost cause, and that's sad to me. In my opinion, people only become lost causes when everyone turns their back on them.

yup , he has done crack, heroine ,you name it, but he has been like this for 15 yrs, stole from his mother, sister and me. he was like this b4 doing all that. he owes courts money, never repaid student loans or anyone 'else he borrowed from. he has absolutely no compassion for anyone only whats in it 4 him. this is a person that has a CPA and refuses to look for work. all signs of a sociopath.
Actually quite the opposite, again sounds like an addict not a sociopath. I'm pretty sure sociopaths usually tend to achieve some moderate form of success even with their anti-social behavior. Their willingness to lie, cheat, and steal to get to their top often does get them ahead.

So it sounds to me like you have an addict on your hands. He probably has a several hundred dollar a day habit. And he probably feels totally trapped in his addiction. You didn't necessary do the wrong thing kicking him out, because enabling an addict does not help the situation and providing free living is enabling. Nor can you blame yourself for someone else's addiction, plenty of people with perfect childhoods turn to hard drugs, people from all socio-economic classes, intelligence, age etc.

But if you totally turn your back on your son, and are not there to support him, then you failed your son. If he ever does decide to clean up his act and go to rehab, he will need support. Getting clean can be incredibly scary for some people, and it's hard to do by yourself. Every aspect of ones life needs to be changed, from friends & acquaintance, to daily activities. Without a loving and supporting family backing you, it is very easy to lose sight of that light at the end of the tunnel and slip back into active addiction.

Just remember, there's a big difference between tough love and no love.
 

musicislfe

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THANK YOU i got to get it together for Easter, going to be odd, him not being around...........damn
Im a parent of a three year old. I couldnt imagine what I would do. I feel guilty everytime I reprimand him. You have to get it together. Your right. Listen, dont back down, dont cave. Your on the right path.
 
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