Hawaii Growers

prop 19 does seem a little extreme in the sense that one would have to pay 15,000 dollars per 25 sq foot area (info gathered from wikipedia) i mean where is the patient supposed to come up with that kind of money? thats several pounds worth of marijuana to sell before coming up with that! but i agree with a few other members here that this going to open up a door to get weed out there in the country/cali more. and as for this underground seed market i agree, there is definetly room for genetics to get fucked up and strewn about all over the globe, thats a great point. anyways im hurting pretty bad right now, went a little too hard last night and needed a few care givers of my own haha... feel a little bit like this: :wall:
 
Dr. Greenhorn said:
Honestly, if prop19 passes or not, it won't slow my roll. wether I abide by the law or not, I'll still be doing what I do now.
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exactly its our lives dont let others tell you what to do while we live them. :leaf: "sensimilla is a gift from JAH i will not follow your man-made law" - tribal seeds
 
stoneyburd said:
i think prop 19 is a good thing, and if it passes im sure other states will follow. california has always been the guinea pig, setting trends etc. once more states adopt a policy like prop 19 and see revenue from it, thats a strong message that im sure the Federal govt will see and hopefully allow full widespread legalization nationwide. once its allowed nationwide, then hawaii will be able to export across state lines legally. could be the next sugar for hawaii?? we have a unique climate that allows us to grow some of the best paka in the world.

and if it does go full legal, big business WILL be in it. no doubt about that, its like growing gold on trees.

but dont worry guys, good bud is still hard to grow, so even when the market is flooded with the "budlight" and "coors" of bud, i think people will still pay a premium for high grade, organic, connoissuer bud. none of our talents will go to waste.
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If big business gets into it they are gonna try to control the whole market or a very large portion of it. Gonna be like any other crop, corn cotton soybeans, they are going to make the BEST mj plant, extreme potency, best overall feeling, fastest growing and large yielding. and patent it so only they can provide it. now when pot goes mainstream, 95% of people are gonna be smoking big corporations pot, cus they just wanna smoke whatever feels the best and is cheapest/most readily available (think in the future of dispensaries as being mcdonalds...). Of course there will always be the side market, like organic foods today versus mainstream food. Regardless, its gonna be a lot like today with all the big corporations controlling it, which is gonna kinda suck.

pessimism aside ya never know whats gonna happen.
 
Puna Bud said:
brah, I think we all should worry. Did you not read the last post I put up talking about Cannabis seeds? Kick ass cannabis starts with kick ass genetics,and if the genetics are locked down by people like HortaPharm. Making top of the line buds may be a real hassle in the future if you don't play your cards right or invest in the future properly. When I say invest in the future. I'm talking about getting and keeping your own stock of seeds.
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wow that is an eye opening article! i agree that genetics should not be able to be locked down, patented, etc. F*** i hate the world sometimes, always messing with mother nature, and trying to exploit, always the big guys (corps) messing with the small guys (farmers). there is a Monsanto compound on maui in kihei, I wonder if they have been working with cannabis too? barbed wire fences all around it.

i too, now have doubt...
 
stoneyburd said:
i think prop 19 is a good thing, and if it passes im sure other states will follow. california has always been the guinea pig, setting trends etc. once more states adopt a policy like prop 19 and see revenue from it, thats a strong message that im sure the Federal govt will see and hopefully allow full widespread legalization nationwide. once its allowed nationwide, then hawaii will be able to export across state lines legally. could be the next sugar for hawaii?? we have a unique climate that allows us to grow some of the best paka in the world.

and if it does go full legal, big business WILL be in it. no doubt about that, its like growing gold on trees.

but dont worry guys, good bud is still hard to grow, so even when the market is flooded with the "budlight" and "coors" of bud, i think people will still pay a premium for high grade, organic, connoissuer bud. none of our talents will go to waste.
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Call it the "microbrew," or should I say the "microbud." :lol:
 
well got some bad news gang, kkdays garden got hit by them damn termites again:wall: they hit 3 plants, that's half of kkday's crop..:-(.. when we got to the grow site, the 3 plants where laying on the ground. it sucks man. kkday salvaged what could of the ones hit by the termites. not really certain what he is gonna do with it. it's still premature bud. I'm superbummed and those aren't even mine. sad day today....
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808toker said:
exactly its our lives dont let others tell you what to do while we live them. :leaf: "sensimilla is a gift from JAH i will not follow your man-made law" - tribal seeds
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you really haven't lived that long have you? If you really think things are gonna be without consequences guess again. there will be a pretty price to pay somewhere, someday. Perhaps it won't be in the form of money either!!!

Your so called gift might be taken right from under you in the very near future. Remember the name HortaPharm..
 
If half the people on this thread followed the laws now, they wouldn't be growing cause they are not medical. where is the consequences for that? they still doing what they doing reguardless of the law
 
Man will continue to be man, and it's in his nature to be greedy and self-centered. We think we're smarter than God so we continue to genetically modify the plants we need to survive. Modifying cannabis so she won't clone or seed in the name of greed sounds like something we would do. I'm sure I'll be long dead before that happens, though.

Bummer on the damn bugs guys!! You used to put plates under the grow bags?

Dr. saw your boy BJ jogging aroung DH when I was getting out of the water this am....pit bull little fucker..
 
Puna Bud said:
you really haven't lived that long have you? If you really think things are gonna be without consequences guess again. there will be a pretty price to pay somewhere, someday. Perhaps it won't be in the form of money either!!!

Your so called gift might be taken right from under you in the very near future. Remember the name HortaPharm..
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of course theyll be consequences...thats why i said that! its fuckeeed up and i dont agree with it all. but like doc said weather the law changes or not ill be enjoying the gift as long as i can :P...thanks for the negativity! have a great day!
 
Hey whats up guys! Just wanted to know if anybody ever used MG Quickstart? Its a transplanting solution and I wanted to test it out. She good for go or no??
 
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