downthedrains
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the OG Kush x Master Kush x Sour Diesel
Hayduke's Seldom Seen Garden
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Hayduke
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A guy off craigslist
Since the re-veg experiment seems to work, I will re-veg the headband to keep a mom for clone and flower the other(s) once they grow up. They have small leaves on the lower parts that look healthy enough to grow.
downthedrains
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I wish you could buy clones off craigslist in oregon...A guy off craigslist
Since the re-veg experiment seems to work, I will re-veg the headband to keep a mom for clone and flower the other(s) once they grow up. They have small leaves on the lower parts that look healthy enough to grow.
ugh.
Hayduke
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I don't know if it is exactly legal, and I don't think craigslist like it. They usually are not up long for whatever reason. I would be really surprised if craigslist in Eugene and Portland didnt have some occasionally, I am not familiar with Oregon's medical cannabis laws, but I assume they allow collective grows.
I think headband is a SoCal medical club cutting only strain right now. The guy I got them from has like 6-10 strains and said he will cut them to order with 2 weeks notice for rooted clones or will cut moments before you meet for those who want to root themselves. Note this is not the same guy that sold me the k-train un-rooted cuttings in full flower! Though small they were nice cuttings with healthy roots, however they suffered from the 40 minute care ride with those exposed roots. I now take a container with moist perlite in bottom and a squirt bottle!
DKskater75
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DAMN! nice work man... so how much in all?? that headband looks shiny as fuck too...
downthedrains
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I'll have to keep my eyes open...they sell seeds down there or just cuttings?
DKskater75
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well shit at least youll have 5 grams of some quality smoke. my 17grams of bammer didnt last very long haha
Hayduke
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I have heard of some of the larger dispensaries in Hollywood and Long Beach having seeds sometimes, but I really don't know.
The first clone cut was 10.5g and dry and off the stem it is 2.7g. and "Amber" went from 3.6 to .9g. So out of the 63g I will only get 15-16g.
The 5g of headband may be on the optimistic side, I doubt that I have 20g's wet. Will find out soon though, last night's look at the trichs was mostly cloudy with some clear. Maybe 25% amber with some of those on the decline. When the lights come on I may throw them back in the dark for a couple of days and cut Sat night, or may let them go 1 more day as they had water last night. Today is 9 weeks in flower. The UPS fairy is coming tomorrow!
Hayduke
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Headband is cut dried and nibbled off of. 16.2g's wet, 4 dry. Nice high, taste ok, smell is good when handled, but not great in jar. I carefully trimmed buds leaving some very small and mostly yellowed leaves. All 3 are being "re-vegged" to get clones/re-flower.
1st 2 pics of headband harvest wet and dry.
3,4,and 5 are of the re-veg (stems with now green leaves and very small new growth)
The Trainwreck/Kush (K-Train) clones that were purchased basically un-rooted and in full flower have been nicely rooted and are in differnet stages of converting from flowering back to veg. This is a long process being undertaken to preserve my favorite strain. It is interesting as hell as the plant puts out some very uncharacteristic growth. The first leaves are single bladed and smooth edged. Then single bladed serrated leaves, then a combination of normal looking leaves and curled leaves which look like new fern growth. The one which had a single root showing when I got them has 12 growth tips and 5 bladed leaves starting. Seeds are much easier but not an option with this strain, plus I paid $60 for 3 clones, waited 10 weeks and scored only an eighth! I am going to get my monies worth!
pics 6,7,8 are k-train re-veg @ 4 weeks 24/0 6500K cfl's
Pics 9 and 10 are of 3 week old red diesel seedlings. Their roots have reached the FFOF in bottom half of cups and are looking nice.
Hole cut in top of veg box for 400w hps, will mount and hook up exhaust to start testing temps. I have a 5000btu window ac if needed but it is an energy hog and noisy.
1st 2 pics of headband harvest wet and dry.
3,4,and 5 are of the re-veg (stems with now green leaves and very small new growth)
The Trainwreck/Kush (K-Train) clones that were purchased basically un-rooted and in full flower have been nicely rooted and are in differnet stages of converting from flowering back to veg. This is a long process being undertaken to preserve my favorite strain. It is interesting as hell as the plant puts out some very uncharacteristic growth. The first leaves are single bladed and smooth edged. Then single bladed serrated leaves, then a combination of normal looking leaves and curled leaves which look like new fern growth. The one which had a single root showing when I got them has 12 growth tips and 5 bladed leaves starting. Seeds are much easier but not an option with this strain, plus I paid $60 for 3 clones, waited 10 weeks and scored only an eighth! I am going to get my monies worth!
pics 6,7,8 are k-train re-veg @ 4 weeks 24/0 6500K cfl's
Pics 9 and 10 are of 3 week old red diesel seedlings. Their roots have reached the FFOF in bottom half of cups and are looking nice.
Hole cut in top of veg box for 400w hps, will mount and hook up exhaust to start testing temps. I have a 5000btu window ac if needed but it is an energy hog and noisy.
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DKskater75
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you can harvest a plant and then re-veg it?? what the fuck never heard of that... and i don't believe that k-train is even marijuana haha shit looks so weird. diesel lookin good though...
Hayduke
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Thanks!
Yeah, I have heard about it, and seen one pic. I heard of it years ago from a friend who was part of a commercial grow in BC in the late 80's, and I have read about Dr.BudGreensMore doing this regularly 3 generations and sometimes more, though he recommends only 3 due to genetic mutations I believe. This guy has some youtube vids of his cfl grows off grid, and I have read some of his posts on another board. He also was part of the 80's BC commercial grows (Don't know if he and my friend worked together, but had same plan) and planed to retire at 30 and did. He lives "on top of a mountain in the Pac NW" as he puts it, and generates his own power. Hand dug a phone line for occaisional internet access, and uses cfl's only because he is off grid. He has to augment his solar with a generator being converted to burn on wood gas.
Evidently it works! If I wasn't so cheap, I would have given up cuz it has been 4 weeks. Patience is a must. Watching the transition has been very interesting. The one that had a root when I got her, is really going wild right now. She got her roots into the FFOF and is loving it. They will be good mommies! It will also be amazing to see the headband turn back into a beautiful plant in veg state, from stems and yellowed growth sites, as they have established root systems. They are very limited though in their ability to uptake from these roots due to no foliage for transpiration. They stay wet longer, and probably need to be careful to avoid root rot.
DKskater75
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thats some crazy shit man haha i think ima try and do that with one of my purple wrecks or at least figure out how to clone them bitches since i already wasted all 13 of the seeds and only got 6 plants meaning 3 females i hope... started flowering on friday hopefully they show sex sooooon so i can finally get shit organized and have 8 plants flowering... 
Hayduke
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If you have the room, might as well! Good excuse to play with cloning too. I am a long way from flowerthats some crazy shit man haha i think ima try and do that with one of my purple wrecks or at least figure out how to clone them bitches since i already wasted all 13 of the seeds and only got 6 plants meaning 3 females i hope... started flowering on friday hopefully they show sex sooooon so i can finally get shit organized and have 8 plants flowering...
.400w hps mounted with 265cfm venting hood. I tried a 50cfm bath fan exhausting and a 50cfm blowing in, runs about 10 degrees above room temp. I may try pulling air from box then through hood to help exhaust box, maybe with both 50cfm's blowing in and across plants instead of fans. I am really trying to avoid the ac. It makes the room too hot and will create a new problem for veg box. If I use ac I will seal the back with a register box and 8" duct with inline booster to remove the ac heat (hopefully) but this will end up close to another c-note + electricity and noise.
DKskater75
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yeah well at the moment i got my homebox empty but i plan on starting up 9 more in a week or two when i get back from vacation... im thinkin Blueberry, Strawberry Blue and Blueberry Northern Lights... you see any pattern there? haha you still havin a problem with temps man? my closet rarely hits 75 these days now that the rains comin... the way i have it set up is my exhaust taking air from the homebox connected to my HPS and then blowing the hot air from that out the closet... if youre lookin for a quiet but powerful inline check out the one i got its 150cfm and basically silent... i just have it connected directly to my carbon filter since i didnt really need it for cooling or anything...
Hayduke
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Well today the rain came. It has been 85-90 for 2 weeks. I have only had a couple of days where I had to run the air as it cools off quick at about 5pm. My veg box is open and exhausts the heat really well, but I was trying the 400w hps in the 24 cu.ft. veg box with it closed just as a test run with the air cooled hood. I think if I draw the air out of the box and then through the hood (it is mounted fixed on to of box for max height) like from your home box, it will be manageable, especially running 7pm-7am in winter (if you can actually call it that) I get the house cold at night and shut it up to keep cool in.
veg box runs 73-84 (5 degrees above ambient). the flower box really does not need to be closed except for lights off, but if I forget to open it for a while...
The larger k-train re-veg is going crazy!
veg box runs 73-84 (5 degrees above ambient). the flower box really does not need to be closed except for lights off, but if I forget to open it for a while...
The larger k-train re-veg is going crazy!
DKskater75
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oh i didnt realize you had a 400w in such a small space... 84 max isnt bad at all then i wouldnt even worry about it haha. tough to get temps down any lower than 80 but yeah im sure winter will help my closet stays around 70 throughout the night now... update here in a moment feel free to come take a look 
Hayduke
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The 400w HPS is installed with the 265cfm blower pulling air through hood from box. I have 2-5cfm bath fans ($12.95 home depot) blowing fresh cool air in through adjustable and movable 3" ducts. I will probably also add a clip on oscillating fan when I find one. The light is mounted on the top and outside to maximize the 4' height of the box and keep it cool. I will either touch up the paint or I have mylar... I am thinking of using these 3 gallon nursery pots for flower, I can fit six in the flower box.
Pics in order: 400w & blower exhaust, box exhaust/hood intake, 2-50cfm fans ducted cool air in, interior box exhaust and light, adjustable cool air, 3 gallon nursery pots
Pics in order: 400w & blower exhaust, box exhaust/hood intake, 2-50cfm fans ducted cool air in, interior box exhaust and light, adjustable cool air, 3 gallon nursery pots
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Red diesel and the re-veg kush x trainwreck clones were re-potted in #1 nursery pots with FFOF cut with 25% perlite and 1/2c. agricultural lime/quarter bag FFOF. The largest of the now dubbed "Krazy Train" was getting quite light in color and is slowly greening back up now that she is in fresh soil. The 3 previously harvested headband clones continue to recover.
The red diesel were germinated 4 weeks ago. they are between 4"-6" tall and 7" wide. It appears as though I may have a second phenotype which has a little more sativa influence (leaves are not as fat). All others have wide leaves. One has been stretchier than the others and I am pretty sure it is a male as well as 2 other suspects. I am thinking of sexing them early ala' Raiderman to not waste space, time, love, or soil. I may move them into a rubbermaid tub for 12 hours of darkness. This seems like a good idea, as I am also planing to try to root some cuttings to save seeds.
Pics in order: Red Diesel overview, top left, top right, #5 sativa pheno,
#5 top, top indica dom?, # 4 male?, #1, #6 shortest at 4",height overview, next 4 krazy train re-veg, headband reveg and close-up,box overview
The red diesel were germinated 4 weeks ago. they are between 4"-6" tall and 7" wide. It appears as though I may have a second phenotype which has a little more sativa influence (leaves are not as fat). All others have wide leaves. One has been stretchier than the others and I am pretty sure it is a male as well as 2 other suspects. I am thinking of sexing them early ala' Raiderman to not waste space, time, love, or soil. I may move them into a rubbermaid tub for 12 hours of darkness. This seems like a good idea, as I am also planing to try to root some cuttings to save seeds.
Pics in order: Red Diesel overview, top left, top right, #5 sativa pheno,
#5 top, top indica dom?, # 4 male?, #1, #6 shortest at 4",height overview, next 4 krazy train re-veg, headband reveg and close-up,box overview
