Heaths Flooded Tube Vertical

WWShadow

WWShadow

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GangstaChronic said:
is this unit enclosed from all sides?

if so, how does he get inside to check up on the plantts and stuff????
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if you look at the pics at the beginning it shows the down angle, that is where he crosses over.
Heath has several different systems designed and they seem to be on different forums. might be able to find them via google "Heath Robinson"
 
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Bob Smith

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Jesus there's a shitload of lazy fucks on this thread.

Anyways, for those of you who wanted to copy Heath's design but aren't too confident in your carpentry skills (like me), you could build one of these, which is very similar in concept but has some obvious differences.

For someone as "unhandy" as me, it was pretty simple to construct - just buy a saw to cut a shitload of PVC, buy some wyes, and glue them together.

I used 4" PVC, but the original design used 3" and that can be made for ~$500 (mine was significantly more expensive because the price for fittings rises exponentially when you move up in diameter).

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EDIT: BTW, whatever PVC method you choose to use, I'd HIGHLY recommend using 22.5s instead of 45s for a much more rounded structure - instead of being an octagon with one side missing (7 sided, obviously), I was able to make mine 15 sided (16-1 = a pentadecagon) and only lose 6% of my plants for access, as opposed to losing 12.5% if I was using 45s.

More sides also means more even distribution of light to the plants............just my little contribution to the thread.
 
WWShadow

WWShadow

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Bob Smith said:
Jesus there's a shitload of lazy fucks on this thread.

Anyways, for those of you who wanted to copy Heath's design but aren't too confident in your carpentry skills (like me), you could build one of these, which is very similar in concept but has some obvious differences.

For someone as "unhandy" as me, it was pretty simple to construct - just buy a saw to cut a shitload of PVC, buy some wyes, and glue them together.

I used 4" PVC, but the original design used 3" and that can be made for ~$500 (mine was significantly more expensive because the price for fittings rises exponentially when you move up in diameter).

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EDIT: BTW, whatever PVC method you choose to use, I'd HIGHLY recommend using 22.5s instead of 45s for a much more rounded structure - instead of being an octagon with one side missing (7 sided, obviously), I was able to make mine 15 sided (16-1 = a pentadecagon) and only lose 6% of my plants for access, as opposed to losing 12.5% if I was using 45s.

More sides also means more even distribution of light to the plants............just my little contribution to the thread.
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Unhandy? Actually I would say you are pretty handy. I was wondering how you did the angles on that! 22.5's I don't recall seeing them but I will definitely look for them now! they might work better than using 45's for heath's design! Ithough about using pvc for the frame support rather than wood, I just don't know if it would be strong enough. Lol doesn't matter either way right now, I just don't have a need for that number of plants. One day though...
 
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Bob Smith

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Here ya go, bro - put the following into the Home Depot search:

NIBCO 4 in. PVC 22-1/2-Degree Elbow

And the 22.5s will definitely make a more rounded structure, which is clearly a "better" structure - it's simply a question of the extra angles/carpentry involved to construct the support system.

Honestly, I'd just make the support system out of PVC, personally - methinks 2" PVC would be plenty strong enough if it was properly engineered to distribute the weight.

And honestly, I'm really not handy - all I did was cut some (a lot) of PVC and glue it together - a third grader could've done it.
 
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InvestInMe

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Bob Smith said:
Jesus there's a shitload of lazy fucks on this thread.

Anyways, for those of you who wanted to copy Heath's design but aren't too confident in your carpentry skills (like me), you could build one of these, which is very similar in concept but has some obvious differences.

For someone as "unhandy" as me, it was pretty simple to construct - just buy a saw to cut a shitload of PVC, buy some wyes, and glue them together.

I used 4" PVC, but the original design used 3" and that can be made for ~$500 (mine was significantly more expensive because the price for fittings rises exponentially when you move up in diameter).

View attachment 1252333

EDIT: BTW, whatever PVC method you choose to use, I'd HIGHLY recommend using 22.5s instead of 45s for a much more rounded structure - instead of being an octagon with one side missing (7 sided, obviously), I was able to make mine 15 sided (16-1 = a pentadecagon) and only lose 6% of my plants for access, as opposed to losing 12.5% if I was using 45s.

More sides also means more even distribution of light to the plants............just my little contribution to the thread.
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how it water itself?
 
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Bob Smith

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It's a Utilitech 1/6HP pump from Lowes - looked for PSI and couldn't find it, but those motherfuckers move some water for sure - they each gobble up 600 watts (5 amps@120).

Probably somewhat of overkill, and I'm certainly not happy about having to dedicate an entire 15 amp circuit to three pumps (those two and my EZ 120 pump all run off the same timer) - would love to be able to run a couple of 1000GPH+ pond pumps (only use 100 watts each, if that) but I'm hesitant to go spend $200 on two pumps that that may or may not work.
 
i8urbabi

i8urbabi

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i can honestly say that, heath, this is the most amazing grow-op ive ever seen. so clean and simple.
 
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tanon

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Heath, I know you have been bombarded with questions but I love your system and would like to try your design with 6" pipe instead, is there any reason you chose 4" besides it being less than half the cost? I wanna use the 6" so I can use it once like you and document the grow then pull the dams and modify it with 80 psi misters and run an identical grow to put an end to the guessing about how to and how much better verses how much more of a pain in the ass aero is and will be using your design . I don't think good result will be had with 4" using aeroponics because of the root density I could see in your pics and believe the 6" would be better for this application any thoughts? Just trying to step it up for the dreamers who can't justify doubling the build cost by using 6" with no garantee it will have any effect on final yield.
 
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Bob Smith

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6" would be a useless modification if you're mirroring his dimensions/plant counts - the rootmass was not impeded in the least by the 4" tubing.

If you were growing less and larger plants, than 6" may be worth considering.
 
zem

zem

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awesome setup! i was just looking it seems it yielded 46oz??? is that like 2g+/watt??? wtf!!!!
 
cameron666

cameron666

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i must tell you Congratulations on everything to do with this, ive always admired this grow from the first time i seen it, Well Done
 
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Wrams

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Heath isn't arround he's busy building and growing massive trees right now so give it a month or two and he'll be back with a monster I can assure you.
 
MediMary

MediMary

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Bob Smith said:
6" would be a useless modification if you're mirroring his dimensions/plant counts - the rootmass was not impeded in the least by the 4" tubing.

If you were growing less and larger plants, than 6" may be worth considering.
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hey bob. do you also go by bobby smith? = )
 
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Bob Smith

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MediMary said:
hey bob. do you also go by bobby smith? = )
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Lol, I might...........changing up my system now - going with a 3" PVC base which will reduce my diameter from 7' to 5'.

Also changing over to an HP aero drain to waste system instead of the recirculating LP aero/NFT system I had in place before.

Gonna be running from 115-140PSI for a super fine mist (using a 4.4 gallon accumulator tank) - 30 GPH misters, two per column.
 
jimbizzzale67123

jimbizzzale67123

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Subed, I am on like page 12 and this journal is amazing. I can not wait to see where this ends I am not going to skip ahead and cheat im going page by page.


Heath are u a mad scientist, do u wear a white lab coat all day or just on the weekends?
 
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scottyshakes

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Bob Smith said:
Jesus there's a shitload of lazy fucks on this thread.

Anyways, for those of you who wanted to copy Heath's design but aren't too confident in your carpentry skills (like me), you could build one of these, which is very similar in concept but has some obvious differences.

For someone as "unhandy" as me, it was pretty simple to construct - just buy a saw to cut a shitload of PVC, buy some wyes, and glue them together.

I used 4" PVC, but the original design used 3" and that can be made for ~$500 (mine was significantly more expensive because the price for fittings rises exponentially when you move up in diameter).

View attachment 1252333

EDIT: BTW, whatever PVC method you choose to use, I'd HIGHLY recommend using 22.5s instead of 45s for a much more rounded structure - instead of being an octagon with one side missing (7 sided, obviously), I was able to make mine 15 sided (16-1 = a pentadecagon) and only lose 6% of my plants for access, as opposed to losing 12.5% if I was using 45s.

More sides also means more even distribution of light to the plants............just my little contribution to the thread.
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did you ever get this puppy up and running if so how bout a pic or at least a count? i like the look of this
 
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