Heavenbright Mini Mo Thread

AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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Laser guns are nice. ~100F sounds about right, as there's a ton of compacted energy being emitted from those lenses. I noted that the case of the Mini Mo remains relatively cool when its cobs are ran hard, with the warmest part being the location on the case above the driver. With fans being ran at full throttle (2200 RPM / 12V), the cobs have been monitored and shown to remain under 50C for lengths longer than an hour in environments with ambient temperatures of ~73F.

I'm currently considering opting to switch out the standard 2200 RPM 120mm fans for 1800 RPM 120mm fans, as that would help lower operating sounds closer to 20 dBa, which would an ideal sound level. Will have to do some more testing and research in order to properly weigh out the pros and cons of such a switch.

@douevendabbro?

Weight for the Mini Mo is around 13# - super light and easy to hang.
 
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HATORI HANZO

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My temp was taken on the case above the driver. They are not loud at all, I can't here them over my intake and exhaust. I have noticed with the addition of the cobs my magnesium uptake has increased as well as the resin production. The buds are packing on weight much faster than I am use to so I installed a trellis for support (different from a scrog lol). So far I like the lights a lot, they were cheap compared to other options available to me out there and they put out a lot so much so I took the advanced LEDs out my tent. I hung the lights with no help and without removing my plants from the tent the weight was a non issue for me.
 

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Two Mini Mo's and a 1000W should be plenty for that space, although I'd like to see a Mothership in place of that 1000W one day ;-)

If I've been counting correctly, it's day 30 (flower) for your Ghost Train Haze ladies. There's so many varieties to choose from; what ultimately led you to go with Ghost Train Haze? What kind of genetics can we expect you to grow with in this room after harvest? I noticed in one of your earlier posts that you have an additional grow space, where you're implementing the scrog technique with some ladies under a bluer light. Were those Ghost Train Haze ladies as well or? Also, you mentioned this being your second grow. How did your first grow go and what genetics did you roll with then?
 
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Today is day 30, I chose GTH because I like sativa doms. Next up is Malawi. The small tent was Sensi Star but I moved it to a friend's house (my girl doesn't smoke and doesn't like the fact that my living room is a grow room). My first legal grow was 4 C99 4 way lst in 7 gallon pots of super soil in a 4x4 under a 1000, yield was l.4 pounds and 1 northern lights outdoor mainlined in a 10 gallon got me half a pound. I doubt a mothership will ever see the inside of my tent but a custom job by you might if I decide to let go of HPS. Honestly I'm kinda waiting for my boy to finish his grow with the spydrx before I decide what to do. I was originally gonna get a spydrx but decided I'd rather go with something that has proven results (cobs). Pics from my last run.
 

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Is your buddy sharing a journal or anything where we can follow? I'd be interested to see how his results turn out. A custom-job isn't out of the question. When would you like to begin working on that project?
 
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AquariusPanta said:
@HATORI HANZO

Is your buddy sharing a journal or anything where we can follow? I'd be interested to see how his results turn out. A custom-job isn't out of the question. When would you like to begin working on that project?
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Naw, no journal. It's about 10 weeks till my boys spyderx grow is done so I'm waiting on his results. If I do go custom I was thinking a 16 cob build 800 watts big enough to cover a 5x5.
 
AquariusPanta

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It would appear from their site that the SpyderX Plus (+1500$) is designed for a 4' x 4' area and offers around 900 PPFD, with the catch that the fixture runs optimally when placed ~6" away from canopy. I'm guessing they don't utilize any optics, which can be a bummer if you're running shorty plants.

There's no doubt in my mind that 800W from x16 Vero 29's/CXB3590's, when spread and distanced appropriately, would thoroughly cover a 5' x 5' space and much more so than any HID fixture commercially available, including the 1000W Gavita.
 
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AquariusPanta said:
It would appear from their site that the SpyderX Plus (+1500$) is designed for a 4' x 4' area and offers around 900 PPFD, with the catch that the fixture runs optimally when placed ~6" away from canopy. I'm guessing they don't utilize any optics, which can be a bummer if you're running shorty plants.

There's no doubt in my mind that 800W from x16 Vero 29's/CXB3590's, when spread and distanced appropriately, would thoroughly cover a 5' x 5' space and much more so than any HID fixture commercially available, including the 1000W Gavita.
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What kind of spread on 16 3590 for that 5x5 area?
 
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So they are pulling 250 watts out of the wall but providing 225 watts of lighting?

Am I missing something here?

Shouldn't LEDs pull less from the wall than outputting for light?

Awesome thread and thank you for the help and dealing with noob questions!!
 
frica

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douevendabbro? said:
So they are pulling 250 watts out of the wall but providing 225 watts of lighting?
Am I missing something here?
Shouldn't LEDs pull less from the wall than outputting for light?
Awesome thread and thank you for the help and dealing with noob questions!!
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It's impossible to build anything that puts out more than it puts in.
Basic thermodynamics.

Drivers aren't 100% efficient so they always pull more than the amount of light they put out.
 
AquariusPanta

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Not everyone took Thermodynamics I & II, @frica ;-)

Frica is correct, @douevendabbro?, inefficiency is a part of most consumer electronics, including lighting fixtures. Things like fans, fan drivers, cobs, and cob drivers all pull from the wall, with drivers losing/consuming more wattage in order to convert high potential to lower potential for our components.
 
littlejacob

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Bonjour
How efficient is this driver?
90%?
if you have a 90% efficient driver it mean that we loose 10% of the electricity...am I correct?
So something who need 100w will consume 110w right?
So with the hlg 94% efficient it is only 6% lost! And with crappy 85% it is 15%!???...on a year it is a lot of energy!
CU
 
AquariusPanta

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@littlejacob

Hey Jacob. Regarding your question, the short answer is yes, we put more energy in that comes out when transforming high voltage to lower voltage.

Every percentage counts, even at a small scale, which is why it's important to use efficient, quality drivers. It's important to note that every driver behaves a little differently and that both total loads and incoming potential dictate how efficient a driver will perform. This can be seen on a performance graph for a given driver. Check page 4 of 7 for details

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/260/HLG-150H-spec-226019.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwixzbfW26zLAhXMnYMKHepHARMQFggxMAA&usg=AFQjCNEmAsc5agUwXgl8lXVNYd4KymhzFg&sig2=mU5xGrxXZTi4JxVckqK8kw
 
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