++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

fumble

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You should. Very informative. I learned a lot there. Lecithin is the key to the magic kingdom ;)
 

Warlock1369

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Great stuff. To bad some of it looks too good. I still have a 3 year old in the house. He already took a cookie cool rack. Don't need him wanting to much. Yes I make vergin of all I make but still. Think I'm gonna make the glowing drink.
 

ELWOOD73

Member
Hey HR got a question for you I'm running a DIY undercurrent with 6.5g sites and 2" pipes and the problems with rot and slime has been a a pain and I have been running the Tea its like the Tea runs out of steam so after this run if I have any plants that live its been an on going battle that I'm not enjoying anyways I want to go to an Ebb & Grow and I was wondering your opinion on how many sites to run in my space I have 18' x 10.5' and use ruffly 14 of the 18 feet and I'm using 6k worth of triple X 8" hoods ? I have done Ebb tables with lil to no problems this undercurrent is killing me
 

Warlock1369

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You can easily run 18 sites. I have a 14x7 room. Use about 11x6 and plenty of room for my 15 sites and brain bucket.
 

ELWOOD73

Member
Hey Warlock do you think I could squeeze in 24 ? thanks again for your time I see I need to look thru your grow too man I got lots of reading to do lol :)
 

ELWOOD73

Member
Yes 24 is there too you just don't want them that bushy. I grow master kush and it's a short fat fucking plant.
Cool thanks alot still not sure what I am doing quite yet I'm in flower and have lost 4 ladies already so I'm guessing we will go from there I'm hoping thats the last of the loss been running tea since Sunday so I'm in the mist of Root rot battle :( So we shall see if I will prevail if I lose it will be crappy to lose a whole grow !
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Hey elwood sorry for late reply! Looks like warlock got you! Sorry to here sbout the root rot!
How are you brewing your tea?
 

Warlock1369

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I had a mom in dwc. She got huge fast. A week before I cloned something happened snd she was history. But when I removed her from the room I never cleaned the bucket. Left her in the water. 3 weeks later she was still alive but not any better. So I pulled her.
 

ELWOOD73

Member
Hey elwood sorry for late reply! Looks like warlock got you! Sorry to here sbout the root rot!
How are you brewing your tea?
Upon original dosage I did as follows I did one cup per gallon and I have a total of 100 gallons in the system then I saw your supposed to do additional cup per gallon every 3 days and I started adding tea last Sunday. I brew it the same as Heis and you but I use Ancient Forest and a other brand of EWC and mix them both in the sock. I use Aquasheild and ZHO on the first initial batch and add Great White the next day and use HI-Brix for molasses on the first day . I run a fountain pump with a bell siphon and an additional air pump with two air stones too with one stuffed in the sock . I hope this sounds fine IMO it looks good to me and all so please tell me if you see errors I can up load a pic later tonight of the roots on the next victim when I get home cuz she wasn't looking too good and plus I need to get your opinion on the leaf growth around the bud sites don't look right either :(
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Umm i think the dosage is rong,
1gal of tea for every 10gal of water

And re add 1 cup per 10gals every three days


This being said i no longer brew tea i use
aquashield at 7ml per gal
piriana at 2ml per gal
to start with and re add every three days or once a week if the water or root look off.
 

ELWOOD73

Member
Umm i think the dosage is rong,
1gal of tea for every 10gal of water

And re add 1 cup per 10gals every three days


This being said i no longer brew tea i use
aquashield at 7ml per gal
piriana at 2ml per gal
to start with and re add every three days or once a week if the water or root look off.
I just went and looked at the thread from Heis and this is what he has down...
Initially, add about 1 cup to your res for every gallon of water, and then add 1 cup total every 3 days after. If you can, pour a little over the base of the stalk to inoculate the root crown. Your water might get a little cloudy but your roots will stay white and stimulated. When you use tea and practice proper res maintenance you can feel confident your roots will be healthy. By multiplying the microbes this way your products should last a great deal longer. Once you have eradicated slime and simply want protection from future outbreaks, adjust the tea dosage to 1 cup per 10 gallons about once per week.
IDK I just follow direction lol!
So hows that new way your doing working out ? I need to do something and will try just about anything and out of curiosity how high should I run the water in my undercurrent ? I was told and always understood in any DWC set up to have the water just below the net pot just want to make sure I atleast got that right lol
 

ELWOOD73

Member
HR as always I appreciate your incite thanks again for your input ! Do you think I should stay the course with tea do to having my roots die off they are dying one at a time I was in there for over three hours cleaning anything I saw on the roots with 29% H2O2 with a clean trash can as my sink and a pump and hose spray off the roots as nice as I could and I put in 10 gallons of tea and try to ride it out or try your new regiment ? Also is this something you would do when you notice slime or rot or is this something that is done before you have any problems thanks again ! Btw another one bit the dust I saw it looking not so swell last night so then this morning I pulled it so I'm down to lucky 13... and counting
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I think your using to much tea!
for 55gal of water you initially add 1 gal of tea to 10gals of water and no more than 3gal added for 55gal total,
so if your running 100 gal res you should add 6gals of tea initially.......!


Then every three days you should add 1 cup for ever 10gal of res water and no more than 3cups added for 55gal total,
and with 100gals you should be adding 6cups every three days total.

I think to much tea could be a issue.

Heres what a was brewing
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North

  • #1 x2 scoops of ancient forest in a sock
    #2 1 tsp of myco madness or great white
    #3 20ml aquashield
    #4 x3 to 4 tsb hibrix mollasis
    #5 5gal bucket
    #6 good air stones and pump

    Brew for 24hr then add
    #7 zho 1tsp​



 
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