Thanks, went on 18/6, laid off nutes for a couple of days and babes now recovering, showing more growth - moving light nearer today as i think they need more light. Theres lots of good advice here and appreciate the help. Im just a 60 something old lady trying to grow enough to keep arthritus pain away at night, its my first attempt as I cant be going out looking to buy stuff at my age. Wouldnt know where to start looking anyway so growing is my solution and 2 plants is legal here in Spain, so not stressing about growing a couple of babes. Just looking forward to a bit of smoke one day and less pain.