here we go--you guys ready for this?

Dr. Bob said:

Well bloody, your buddy Tim tried to demonstrate his 'vast' knowledge of the passed bills, why don't you discuss the actual contents of the passed bills and show how each point hurts patients. Why don't you start with 2 year cards and the right to present a section 8 defense to the jury written right in the law.

Dr. Bob

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bob is that all you can dwell on for starters your not a lawer so you shouldnt be acting like one/so lets see how does locking up my meds help me .yet you can ride around with a pocket full of pills..how does the green house help all it comdems most if you dont live without neibors .bob how many patients will go without there meds becouse of the felony bullshit.fuck a 2 year card i want what the people voted for

gladstoned said:

I didn't take it as getting fucked. It looked to me like almost everything didn't pass.
What did I miss bloody? They didn't take shit from me. As far as I'm concerned they have never given me shit either.

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if you really felt like this why did you join the program why did you get a card ?wasnt it to protect your ass .............how do you like being treated like your less human than others .not going to get into a pissing contest but people need to open there eyes

My eyes are open. I've been in the war on drugs for 20 years. If you think I am losing at this war, then you need to bring your ass up north.
We are doing a lot bro. Losing isn't fucking one of them. I dont need any lectures on being treated less than human, you have no idea what
they have done to me over the years.

Are you really trying to say they are winning the war on drugs? Are you kidding me right now? Didn't the bastards against us try to pass all kinds
of rules and bullshit, the majority didn't even come close.

Seriously bloody, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about right now.

Yeah he could be a funny guy. Sad part is he really doesn't know what he doesn't know. Which is anything about the bills other than felons will have a couple more hurdles (we did get a sundown on non-violent/drug felonies but couldn't get it on all of them, but the fight isn't over).

We actually won quite a few things with this package, including the fact the registry was NOT opened, which was originally the intent of 4838 for those that remember when it first came out. You think a rally did that?

THANK YOU CPU and the other groups that worked in Lansing to change some minds.

Dr. Bob

I know a lot didn't go through. That's certainly the first that I heard CPU did it.
If they come take my card for my felonies, then me and Michigan will go a few more rounds.
Every single time we have a vote in the nation anymore recreational marijuana gains more and more ground.

gladstoned said:

I know a lot didn't go through. That's certainly the first that I heard CPU did it.
If they come take my card for my felonies, then me and Michigan will go a few more rounds.
Every single time we have a vote in the nation anymore recreational marijuana gains more and more ground.

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It started with shit and CPU had a hand in toning it down. Along with others. They got the sundown on some felonies rather than the original ban for life on all felons. Where do you think the access to the registry language went to? It was pulled due to the effort of many groups working with the legislators. Remember when they wanted to restrict certifications to the patient's primary care doctor only? Where do you think that went and why, and who had a hand in it? How about seating the new conditions panel, outsource to stop the 6-9 month delay in issuing the cards (who put the bug in their ear and engaged attorneys to file the suit???), remember this???

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/471505-dr-bob-townsend-sue-state.html

Folks don't want credit, but the bashing gets old. You don't hear about it because those that do it don't tell you what they did, they don't need you as a cheerleader, they are doing it because it is what they do, without fanfare. Read the mission statement for CPU again, it explains quite a bit.

Dr. Bob

Exactly what the CPU did will remain somewhat of a mystery. that gang lost me awhile back w their attitude in general and the fact that if you weren't a private member paying your dues, then you were not allowed to attend any type of open meeting of theirs. And those were supposedly our some of our entire communities self-appointed lobbyists. that group needs their own public relations if they wanted to really connect w our community on a deeper level. Everyone in that group hid behind their anonymity. And to imply to the many ppl that gathered at rallies was a useless effort, is a continued example of the arrogance and elitism that makes the CPU sucky in my eyes. Of course you'll toot the CPU horn Bob, but that's just another opinion from a member within that said private group. I'm damn glad that access to the registry isn't wide open yet, CPU doesn't need to take credit for that, or do they?

I've been online about a year and a half. Tried 3MA briefly, that didn't go so good. Came here and liked it. The only problem was
all the 3MA vs CPU fights, honestly both sides always looked like they were full of shit. I never felt the need to launch an investigation
into all of the drama bullshit both sides were claiming. That stuff does not appeal to me. It's ashame too cuz they both have lots
of Michigan growers on them.
Dr Bob, there is no doubt in my mind. If you have been nothing but persecuted for no reason you must be sooooooo pissed. I have
thought the same thing about Joe Cain. It's like wow, the shit you two have to listen too.

I think all parties are a little guilty of something, they just have to get out of their own way long enough to see it.

dam bob promoting a group you said you didnt sapport and wasnt a part of .i agree abe some are just a little more guilty than others

If one was to be legit, I would pay to support them. Hell ya, I would.

do you actually have spellcheck bloody? Just checking.

Dr. Bob

gladstoned said:

Dr Bob, there is no doubt in my mind. If you have been nothing but persecuted for no reason you must be sooooooo pissed. I have
thought the same thing about Joe Cain. It's like wow, the shit you two have to listen too.

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Fuck Joe Cain.

stumpjumper said:

Fuck Joe Cain.

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Where do you think it comes from. I called him on his crap and his little minions chase me around the net promoting his nonsense and trying to counter what I put out by attacking me. It is a little game to them.

I've found the best thing is to just let them go off. Folks see them for what they are, we are seeing that here with Bloody, and some others. I tend to let people hang themselves.

Dr. Bob

Always a good start, try and educate and assist. As has been clearly demonstrated, some folks are simply beyond help. Doesn't mean give up, but sometimes you just have to let them hit the bottom before they are ready to stop talking and start listening. We are seeing some hit bottom here, because folks are not buying into their hate anymore.

Unfortunately, they generally just change boards when folks catch on to them, and start with a new group. Or change screen names. The names are different, the delusional thinking is the same.

Dr. Bob

That strength of character poster is just so damn funny!! Love it!

My eyes are blurry, I had trouble figuring out what the darn poster said LOL! Now I get it.

Embarassed.

Does anyone thing that might be a real picture? Not photoshopped? That would be all the more funny.

It is medicine, photoshopped or not. Just the way it is, you don't have to like or approve of what patients do, but you stop the bleeding and treat them like you would treat the Pope. Every time, for everyone.

Dr. Bob