Hillary can't be trusted

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Big_Lou

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Here's a concept for you, seeing as it seems you need to get together with others

Fucking spend the time you've spent trashing trump in a more positive manner.

Trash your electoral system that has left you with the two least popular options in history (according to the BBC, not my opinion)

It's obviously a flawed system, you bomb nations in the name of democracy, use that fucking democracy to change shit


Alternatively, just go onto forums and abuse people who don't think like you
Wait, aren't you British? So, tell me about generations of institutional racism, vile colonialism, Islamophobia, and the Crusades?
(Cough....Brexit....cough)

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Fogdog

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Ok, got some work to do but I will return.

To answer this.....

If you are disenfranchised with your electoral system, get together with others who feel the same.

Get the message out there.

Get support.

There will be a critical mass of support that will invoke change.

Alternatively, do nothing.

One is empowering.

The choice is yours
Do you suggest that I ally myself with others and as a group we should all not vote or cast votes for people with no chance of winning? That happened in 2000 and 2004. The results were not good for this country.
 
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testiclees

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Nn
My message is that neither candidate are worthy of trust.

You ignore this and hurl more insults.

weak
You desrve to be derided. The insults are well earned. You struggle with the basic logic and syntax yet you boast as if your bluster has merit. Its why you're an asshole. It characterizes your position and and your posts.

You are out of your league, you're an ass and you illustrate it with virtuosity.
 
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testiclees

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Here's a concept for you, seeing as it seems you need to get together with others



Alternatively, just go onto forums and abuse people who don't think like you
"Clinton may not abuse women physically, but she'll certainly abuse them when in office"<---appallingly idiotic, assholish absolutely without reason, reference or substance. Youre an idiot


"]Here's a concept for you, seeing as it seems you need to get together with others" a timely example why you're a fucking half wit.. Youre giving us a "concept" but because of syntax errors it's incoherent. Youre instructing yet you cant form a coherent thought the very definition of a fucking idiot. Youre an ass. That post echoes the imbecility of @choomer 's classic"whose stupid again"

Observe that each well earned insult is tied to the fucking turd you laid that earned it. In this case the abuse you've elicited could be instructive. Reality check, you're a fucking common idiot.
 

Rizlared

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Wait, aren't you British? So, tell me about generations of institutional racism, vile colonialism, Islamophobia, and the Crusades?
(Cough....Brexit....cough)

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I think that's for another thread mate.

Feel free to start it and I'll happily join in.

Now, I make no excuses for the behaviour of my country of birth.

I view everything objectively...or try to

try it
 

Rizlared

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as for brexit, I suggest you don't talk about things you know nothing about *cough

Happy to discuss it, start a thread and invite me
 

Rizlared

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Do you suggest that I ally myself with others and as a group we should all not vote or cast votes for people with no chance of winning? That happened in 2000 and 2004. The results were not good for this country.
I suggest that you think for yourself
 

Rizlared

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Nn

You desrve to be derided. The insults are well earned. You struggle with the basic logic and syntax yet you boast as if your bluster has merit. Its why you're an asshole. It characterizes your position and and your posts.

You are out of your league, you're an ass and you illustrate it with virtuosity.
once again, you ignore my content and focus on insults.

weak
 

Rizlared

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"Clinton may not abuse women physically, but she'll certainly abuse them when in office"<---appallingly idiotic, assholish absolutely without reason, reference or substance. Youre an idiot


"]Here's a concept for you, seeing as it seems you need to get together with others" a timely example why you're a fucking half wit.. Youre giving us a "concept" but because of syntax errors it's incoherent. Youre instructing yet you cant form a coherent thought the very definition of a fucking idiot. Youre an ass. That post echoes the imbecility of @choomer 's classic"whose stupid again"

Observe that each well earned insult is tied to the fucking turd you laid that earned it. In this case the abuse you've elicited could be instructive. Reality check, you're a fucking common idiot.
tedious.

Women will die as a result of HC being elected.

Fact

Going to stop bombing Syria is she?

You are all bluster, no substance

weak
 

Fogdog

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I suggest that you think for yourself
Just talking in circles. First, everybody thinks for themselves and acts in their own interest. By making your claim, you demonstrate your sense of self importance, unjustified as shown by your lack of making a cogent argument. Second, this idea that not voting in the presidential election is somehow going to trigger a shift in politics is as I've said before naive of you. All that will happen is the politicians will follow the vote and mine won't be represented. The 2000 and 2004 elections are examples of what happens when one side -- the left -- sat on the sidelines while the country moved hard to the right. The choice to not vote concedes power to others and isn't a protest in any shape or form.

Do we need more variety of choices in political parties in the US? I think so. And am voting in support of initiatives placed by one of them in a local elections because third parties have to grow at the grass roots level before they can contend in state or national elections.
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Rizlared

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Just talking in circles. First, everybody thinks for themselves and acts in their own interest. By making your claim, you demonstrate your sense of self importance, unjustified as shown by your lack of making a cogent argument. Second, this idea that not voting in the presidential election is somehow going to trigger a shift in politics is as I've said before naive of you. All that will happen is the politicians will follow the vote and mine won't be represented. The 2000 and 2004 elections are examples of what happens when one side -- the left -- sat on the sidelines while the country moved hard to the right. The choice to not vote concedes power to others and isn't a protest in any shape or form.

Do we need more variety of choices in political parties in the US? I think so. And am voting in support of initiatives placed by one of them in a local elections because third parties have to grow at the grass roots level before they can contend in state or national elections.
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I agree with your final paragraph.

As for the rest, you make interesting points but I do disagree with you on them.

I've seen first hand how change happens by not voting for the established 'big 2'
 

Rizlared

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It also, in no way, demonstrates my belief in my own 'self importance'

at all.

I'm not weak but I'm not more important than others.

I just wish people were armed with information before forming opinions (example, your belief above. you don't know me yet you jump to a conclusion based on little or no evidence)
 

Rizlared

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...and as for the belief that everyone thinks for themselves...

Now who's naive lol

The work Goebbels did was ignored yeah?

Bollocks was it
 

Rizlared

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I notice testees that you haven't yet discussed politics with me.

This thread is a politics thread.

Not a semantics thread

Why is that, feel safe on one subject...not the other perhaps?
 
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