Hormones vs Co2 - Hormones Cheaper Potentially Yeild the Same!

No real changes on the plants dosed with IBA so far. One IBA dosed plant hermaphrodized the day after treatment and was removed from the experiment as an anomaly.

yeah cant we all just hold hands and sing around the fireside .... and then the oral sex!

i just thought this might be of interest to you : dutch masters superbud
http://www.marijuanagrowing.eu/superbud-tips-and-tricks-on-using-it-t129.html
sells for $250 a litre over here, supposed to be pretty amazing stuff

Nice info...... ive looked at this stuff.. thats expensive...... here at local it is $150 for a liter, I am useing ROCK Juice.. which local guy said basically the same .... but $40 cheaper... i will have to try this next time im down there !

ROFL.... was thinkin that it would be a bit of a sausage fest !

it was supposed to be a bit of a parody from the holy grail : come on just a little bit of peril, please

DaveTheNewbie said:

it was supposed to be a bit of a parody from the holy grail : come on just a little bit of peril, please

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lol
all good bro i knew what you were getting at !

i just felt like being a smart ass..

sorry about that

OMFG, I was only trying to be constructive, what is the use of such a long winded copy and paste with no explanations eza. Man, I've been following threads here like this before you even joined. Yes, It's all been done before. I only jumped on your thread because all the others went nowhere, and I was still interested.
This includes UV lights, ethylene etc,
Some shit you write eza is utter dribble, you know nothing about me and I'm probably 2 or 3 times your age, been doing this shit for 36 years now and I have learnt a few things along the way, but I'm still learning.
You've been here 2 months and you think it's your forum.
If anyone wants to see what kind of person you really are I will copy and paste the private messages you sent me calling me all sorts of filthy shit. How peurile of you.
My post wasn't even critisism, your poor little ego is so fragile that you want everyone to say great stuff eza, your so smart.
All you do is copy and paste stuff freely available to all, how about collating it into something meaningful.
Shit, I stumbled here by accident, now I have to unsubscribe again.

spiked1 said:

OMFG, I was only trying to be constructive, what is the use of such a long winded copy and paste with no explanations eza. Man, I've been following threads here like this before you even joined. Yes, It's all been done before. I only jumped on your thread because all the others went nowhere, and I was still interested.
This includes UV lights, ethylene etc,
Some shit you write eza is utter dribble, you know nothing about me and I'm probably 2 or 3 times your age, been doing this shit for 36 years now and I have learnt a few things along the way, but I'm still learning.
You've been here 2 months and you think it's your forum.
If anyone wants to see what kind of person you really are I will copy and paste the private messages you sent me calling me all sorts of filthy shit. How peurile of you.
My post wasn't even critisism, your poor little ego is so fragile that you want everyone to say great stuff eza, your so smart.
All you do is copy and paste stuff freely available to all, how about collating it into something meaningful.
Shit, I stumbled here by accident, now I have to unsubscribe again.

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cummon spiked one dont be an asswipe (not in a bad way) you already know i wanna know the outcome to your la femme test. and besides he said sorry.... WE ALL HAVE OUR BAD DAYS i know i have.. cept im a bit funny if someone puts me back in ma place and wins an arguement in the end i rep em lol.

besides i know kids that could tell you more than most adults could about this sacred plant.... i was one of em in my wild days lol.... it doesnt matter as long as you can grow good bud and share some wisdom.. well thats the oppinion im of.....

but anyhoo i dont believe this thread is a waste...
it has heaps of useful info on it and eza was prolly so heartstuck cos he really is trying to make this thread go somewhere look at all the work he at least gets here collaborated for all to see . i know what it feels like to hav threads ruined.... IT SUX.... JUST PLAIN SUX.....

ya dont gotta go cos of one disagreement. damn thats stupid

also the fact that you been growin 35 years dont mean shit... no matter how much you know your always still learning its just weather people want to learn from you.... the for all you know the neighbours kid could be growin something ass dank as you.. i know i grew kick ass bud then and i do now too.

anyways i didnt get to finish what i gotta say i gotta go get some milk srry about that shops about to shut...

bottom line dumb arguement.... yas both got some points... it was all good till now get over it.... move on and learn from each other thats what this is all about.... eza appologised there was no need to keep being an ass can we please move on

spiked1 said:

OMFG, I was only trying to be constructive, what is the use of such a long winded copy and paste with no explanations eza. Man, I've been following threads here like this before you even joined. Yes, It's all been done before. I only jumped on your thread because all the others went nowhere, and I was still interested.
This includes UV lights, ethylene etc,
Some shit you write eza is utter dribble, you know nothing about me and I'm probably 2 or 3 times your age, been doing this shit for 36 years now and I have learnt a few things along the way, but I'm still learning.
You've been here 2 months and you think it's your forum.
If anyone wants to see what kind of person you really are I will copy and paste the private messages you sent me calling me all sorts of filthy shit. How peurile of you.
My post wasn't even critisism, your poor little ego is so fragile that you want everyone to say great stuff eza, your so smart.
All you do is copy and paste stuff freely available to all, how about collating it into something meaningful.
Shit, I stumbled here by accident, now I have to unsubscribe again.

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I posted the same PM for all to see ! sorry to im trying to help, and the OP in each thread state exactly that.... all info has refference attached... so how do you think i claim all as my own ? And figure I own the forum ? What are you talking about.... please have another spliff and chill.....
Im here for research as are others not so much the social side so yes i collect info to share... it takes me hrs of reading & research to find this shit ! Sorry you did take the post to heart...... ive touched on a soar note obviously, I appologised in PM and in open forum........
Growing for 36yrs ... and your experimenting with rooting hormone ??
I dont want to make this a bash thread so lets hope you truley stick to your word and leave !

Back to HORMONES !!!

Just started my
PLANT STARTER vs LA FEMME today! A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON TEST !
3 PLANTS.... (1 IS BASE PLANT )
Plant stater: active; is NAA and IBA
LaFemme; active: NAA

Folia feed with pentrator..once 3 days after turn of lights and will follow up every two days for 4 applications.... idetical clones in same media,same size pot,lights,nutes,next to each other / but taken away for spray application incase of over spray.

Will follow that with 1 application in each wk 3 & 4.
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Also direct comparison of rock juice and superbud to follow.

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And also my experiment between super carbs (b vitimins familiy) and and synthetic vitimin b1
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UVB vs HPS+MH - find other thread

He's right, its mainly redundant cut/paste.. Rooting hormone on established plants has been done to death.. You can get pretty much any hormone you want, and wouldn't even get hit by Hazmat fees for them, so I don't know how you expect to 'experiment' with product from the hydro store..
And ever notice that quality reference sources tend to avoid cluttering up their publication with childish pictures??
Unsubscribed..

Ill keep it to myself ! Sorry everyone ! didnt mean to offend anyone ! And where was i experimenting with rooting hormone ??
Plant starter is a replaciment for la femme due to price differnce!
My experiment is clearly stated in feed & dose schedual stated earlier......???????? useing hydro products your right would be useless. My intentins were to look at different AGRICULTURE based fertz in raw form that are being used on mass eatable crops ..to see if any would marry with exsisting or replicate exsisting hydro store type additives it...... i think we are getting there !.
GUess i was wrong.......
so tell me about them if you know !??? please find me papers on the following then ...i know you cant and i bet half of those you never even heard of!!!!!!!
--- ive been researching ......and putting together a spread sheet of potential effects and timing..! I guess you will do that your self...or better yet you have and they are all useless !?? lol



DATA SHEETS ON PGR`s (or man made hormones)

antiauxins
clofibric acid
2,3,5-tri-iodobenzoic acid
auxins
4-CPA
2,4-D
2,4-DB
2,4-DEP
dichlorprop
fenoprop
naphthaleneacetamide
α-naphthaleneacetic acid
1-naphthol
naphthoxyacetic acid
potassium naphthenate
sodium naphthenate
2,4,5-T
cytokinins
2iP
benzyladenine
kinetin
zeatin
defoliants
calcium cyanamide
dimethipin
endothal
ethephon
merphos
metoxuron
pentachlorophenol
thidiazuron
tribufos
ethylene inhibitors
aviglycine
1-methylcyclopropene
ethylene releasers
ACC
etacelasil
ethephon
glyoxime
gibberellins
gibberellins
gibberellic acid
growth inhibitors
abscisic acid
ancymidol
butralin
carbaryl
chlorphonium
chlorpropham
dikegulac
flumetralin
fluoridamid
fosamine
glyphosine
isopyrimol
jasmonic acid
maleic hydrazide
mepiquat
piproctanyl
prohydrojasmon
propham


2,3,5-tri-iodobenzoic acid
morphactins
chlorfluren
chlorflurenol
dichlorflurenol
flurenol
growth retardants
chlormequat
daminozide
flurprimidol
mefluidide
paclobutrazol
tetcyclacis
uniconazole
growth stimulators
brassinolide
forchlorfenuron
hymexazol
unclassified plant growth regulators
benzofluor
buminafos
carvone
ciobutide
clofencet
cloxyfonac
cyanamide
cyclanilide
cycloheximide
cyprosulfamide
epocholeone
ethychlozate
ethylene
fenridazon
heptopargil
holosulf
inabenfide
karetazan
lead arsenate
methasulfocarb
prohexadione
pydanon
sintofen
triapenthenol
trinexapac
Here is a couple of PGR products ive been looking at.....

Dazide has numerous uses, the most important being to regulate plant size by reducing the length of internodes. A more compact plant has greater stem strength resulting in less breakage during shipping and handling. Dazide also reduces apical dominance, encouraging the development of early terminal buds that branch profusely. Treated plants have a compact growth habit and enhanced flower bud formation.
Dazide treated plants also tend to have deeper green foliage and a more developed root system. The latter provides firmer anchorage and better nutrient and moisture extracting capability. Consequently, plants are less likely to wilt and can recover more quickly from the stress of transplanting. Dazide is effective in a wide variety of ornamentals, including chrysanthemums, gardenias, azaleas, hydrangeas and poinsettias, along with petunias, marigolds and other flowering and foliage plant species. While the specific effects of Dazide vary with the situation, the results generated are very predictable and consistent, producing plants that look and sell at their best all year round.
http://www.fine-agrochemicals.com/DocFrame/DocView.asp?id=308&sec=-1



Falgo contains gibberellic acid (GA3). Gibberellins are compounds that are naturally produced within plants to stimulate growth. Fine has developed a unique fermentation method of naturally producing GA3 and markets the compound for use in ornamental plants as falgro. Falgro has a huge variety of useful applications including elongation of peduncles in Pompom Chrysanthemums, earlier flowering and increased yield in Statice and accelerated plant growth with increased number of flowering stems in Gypsophila. Offering flexibility of use, falgro is formulated as easy to use liquid, powder and tablet formulations.
http://www.fine-agrochemicals.com/Co...rodH.asp?id=21


Pirouette regulates height and diameter in ornamental plants by reducing internode elongation due to inhibition of gibberellin biosynthesis. Pirouette enhances the quality of bedding plants, flowering and foliage plants, bulb crops, perennials and woody ornamentals making them easier to market and more profitable to produce. Pirouette helps to produce attractive plants that are easier to handle and transport by producing more compact and sturdier plants.
Pirouette helps growers manage the marketing of plants by allowing control of growth rates to meet increasingly stringent customer led specifications.
http://www.fine-agrochemicals.com/Co...rodH.asp?id=86

FALGRO...... Not that expensive..... comes in large quantities and I need SFA....
Falgo contains gibberellic acid (GA3). Gibberellins are compounds that are naturally produced within plants to stimulate growth. Fine has developed a unique fermentation method of naturally producing GA3 and markets the compound for use in ornamental plants as falgro. Falgro has a huge variety of useful applications including elongation of peduncles in Pompom Chrysanthemums, earlier flowering and increased yield in Statice and accelerated plant growth with increased number of flowering stems in Gypsophila. Offering flexibility of use, falgro is formulated as easy to use liquid, powder and tablet formulations.
http://www.fine-agrochemicals.com/Co...rodH.asp?id=21

Well, if the hormones are the key, and your products have the same constituent compounds as typical rooting gels, and ppl have done the gel application to death with no positive results, then logic dictates that this LaFemme product will end in the same result.. The fact that these products are interchangeable should have been a big red-flag actually..
Now I'm hitting the back button so I can unsubscribe without seeing more posts..

yep i found this shit all over forums and threads in the cannibis community !
cut and pasted from old marijuana forums and shit ! ROFL
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born2killspam said:

Well, if the hormones are the key, and your products have the same constituent compounds as typical rooting gels, and ppl have done the gel application to death with no positive results, then logic dictates that this LaFemme product will end in the same result.. The fact that these products are interchangeable should have been a big red-flag actually..
Now I'm hitting the back button so I can unsubscribe without seeing more posts..

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WTF????
Where dose it say rooting gel hormone what ever ??????

La femme is new to market but old to plant world..... wanted to see if i could save some coin becasue i like results of la femme.........

it must be my bad mood !

born2killspam said:

Well, if the hormones are the key, and your products have the same constituent compounds as typical rooting gels, and ppl have done the gel application to death with no positive results, then logic dictates that this LaFemme product will end in the same result.. The fact that these products are interchangeable should have been a big red-flag actually..
Now I'm hitting the back button so I can unsubscribe without seeing more posts..

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lafemme is not a rooting gel
it never was and never will be.
you missed the point here my friend