Me too! I deleaf at smoke time also. My life is much better since I escaped trim jail!
How are things looking?
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Minnegrowta
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9 foot tall plant, tiny little root ball. Huh.
Beeswings
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When the soil is fertilized and watered well, there was no need to search for more.
Minnegrowta
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Yeah I was super lazy. The auxiliary roots weren't very deep. Almost all of them were very top level. I'm a wanna be gardener, I don't study plants, I do my best and hope it all works out lol. If I had to guess these are desert plants based on the way the roots grew.
Minnegrowta
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Well yall I'm officially approaching the end of smokable goods from this harvest and all I'll have left in a few months is grove bags of larf.
I did give a few handfuls here and there to friends but by and large I smoked it all myself.
I'm ready to plant again this coming summer 2025, but given the lesson I'm learning, I should have grown last year too. Thought I could get away with skipping one, ha.
I did give a few handfuls here and there to friends but by and large I smoked it all myself.
I'm ready to plant again this coming summer 2025, but given the lesson I'm learning, I should have grown last year too. Thought I could get away with skipping one, ha.
Minnegrowta
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Ah maybe...? I dunno. If anything I need to plan on this summer's gardening to be smaller and better managed. I want to do more trimming this year, to shape my plants and keep them from becoming so large, maybe help with air flow in case the weather is a bit humid or rains a bunch. The room I did my drying in, has spent the last year becoming filled with machines and equipment for hobbies. The plants would need to share space with my resin printers.
DMChiz
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I feel this entirely.
Gonna also bring down the plant count for next year so I’m not stretched so thin. Last summer I was away for a good chunk of July so plants got big and that’s no bueno. Being able to manage what’s growing out there is crucial. Especially if you add vegetables and other crops.
Will employ the little small pop up greenhouse for the yard to help set canopies and keep critters out during early stages. That’s the plan for this summer anyway.
ElmerS
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Old thread… Are you still here?
Just wondering what cultivars have worked well for you.
I’m another 2 hours north of you.
Minnegrowta
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Yeah I'm still here
This year I'm growing Humboldt seed Co strains blueberry muffin and apple blossom.
ElmerS
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Thank you! Have you grown them before? I mean, are you pretty confident when the days shorten enough to stimulate flowering that they will finish before the freeze gets them?
ElmerS
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Oops….im seeing it now….just didn’t look deep enough
Minnegrowta
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I haven't, but I did careful research and talked to a lot of people and picked these strains for durability in our area. They're doing alright. They got hit by eurasian hemp borers, so i had to prune a bit. They are still in veg though which is good.
I don't think I'd be worried about finishing before freeze, worry about them being too wet because harvest season overlaps with the fall rainy season... I've been more active to prune these plants, so they get more airflow. Early summer many of my flowers got hit hard with fungal issues like powdery mildew. It's good that the rain comes by and drenches the leaves to get any spores and problematic schmutz off them, it'll help you avoid bud rot.
ElmerS
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They look like they are doing great.
I decided late (July 4) to start some autoflowers in my greenhouse and our crazy weather isn’t helping much. 100 degrees in the greenhouse today… need to get some shade cloth up. I’m amazed they haven’t fried yet but also may be stunted from the heat….probably should bring them out on the deck.
Next year I’ll try my first outdoor grow. We live on a lake and get steady breezes more often than not so I’m hoping that even if we have as much rain next year as this (lots up here this summer) that mold issues will be mitigated by the wind. Sometimes it can get too windy.
I saw your plants (maybe especially 2023 season) and couldn’t believe you could grow such beautiful plants in Minnesota and avoid mildew or freeze issues.
It would break my heart if my crop was ruined after all the hard work.
Also surprised that one of your cultivars has a 45 day flower period. That should work well, I would imagine.
Anyway, thanks for the input.
I decided late (July 4) to start some autoflowers in my greenhouse and our crazy weather isn’t helping much. 100 degrees in the greenhouse today… need to get some shade cloth up. I’m amazed they haven’t fried yet but also may be stunted from the heat….probably should bring them out on the deck.
Next year I’ll try my first outdoor grow. We live on a lake and get steady breezes more often than not so I’m hoping that even if we have as much rain next year as this (lots up here this summer) that mold issues will be mitigated by the wind. Sometimes it can get too windy.
I saw your plants (maybe especially 2023 season) and couldn’t believe you could grow such beautiful plants in Minnesota and avoid mildew or freeze issues.
It would break my heart if my crop was ruined after all the hard work.
Also surprised that one of your cultivars has a 45 day flower period. That should work well, I would imagine.
Anyway, thanks for the input.
Minnegrowta
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It's scary and anxiety inducing, when you get to the end and so much can go wrong.
I'm *still* smoking the harvest from that grow. I didn't grow last year. It was good stuff.
If you plant them in the dirt they will grow. The sun determines when they flower. If they're small when they flower, you get less. I wouldn't stress out about how old they are right now and just get them in the soil. Without question they do better when they can touch the earth and not be in a captive pot no matter how big it is.
ElmerS
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Well…. Ok….
So I actually have four Auto flowers that I was going to keep in pots locked in the greenhouse and also four CBD plants and was considering throwing one or two of the CBD plants into the ground to see how they would do. I have a ton of CBD seed so I’m not too concerned if they die in the outdoor environment.
Aside from worrying about my little babies if they were “the good stuff“, I am concerned about my neighbors. On one side of me is my brother-in-law who is probably very anti-cannabis, on the other side of me the people actually encouraged me to plant some. My spot would be well hidden from public view, but I’m a little concerned that if either one of my two neighbors knows that I’m growing, they might say something in casual conversation with some of our other friends down the road and eventually word kind of inadvertently gets out and then you have kids down the way or anybody else who wants to make trouble for me to be concerned about.
I am not a lawyer, and I don’t know for sure, but I think the law is slightly vague… Just has to be out of public view in a locked inclosed area. I guess I don’t know why that can’t be a chicken wire fence with a cheap ass plastic lock holding the ends of the chicken wire together. Seems like that’s locked and enclosed to me. But I would really prefer just to throw a plant on the side of the hill where it would blend in with the rest of the vegetation and be done with it.
When it comes to CBD, a couple years ago, I purchased a pound… A full POUND of CBD flower for $65. At that price, why would you bother with all the headaches of growing, trimming, costs of electricity and soil on so on. Of course, I prefer to know where my stuff comes from and there’s nothing like enjoying your own harvest, but it’s hard to argue with the economics.
So… Maybe I will throw a plant in and see if I get any mold or other issues growing on my breezy hillside.
When it comes to “the good stuff”, I’m too young to be an old hippie, but I think weed should be free….seeds gifted, flower shared, etc. Manually pollinate an isolated branch and have hundreds of seeds to last a long while. I can buy a package of carrot seeds with about 1000 seeds in it for two dollars. Or a package of tomato seeds with about 50 seeds in it for two dollars. I don’t understand why cannabis seeds cost so much. I do understand that a lot of labor goes into developing these strains, but a lot of labor goes into developing tomato strains. And, seriously if you pollinated an entire plant, you’d have thousands and thousands of seeds.
The cannabis “business“ is very offputting to me.
BUT the openness of the cannabis community is very encouraging and I’m grateful for your and everyone else’s advice and support and this platform which has helped so many people!
So I actually have four Auto flowers that I was going to keep in pots locked in the greenhouse and also four CBD plants and was considering throwing one or two of the CBD plants into the ground to see how they would do. I have a ton of CBD seed so I’m not too concerned if they die in the outdoor environment.
Aside from worrying about my little babies if they were “the good stuff“, I am concerned about my neighbors. On one side of me is my brother-in-law who is probably very anti-cannabis, on the other side of me the people actually encouraged me to plant some. My spot would be well hidden from public view, but I’m a little concerned that if either one of my two neighbors knows that I’m growing, they might say something in casual conversation with some of our other friends down the road and eventually word kind of inadvertently gets out and then you have kids down the way or anybody else who wants to make trouble for me to be concerned about.
I am not a lawyer, and I don’t know for sure, but I think the law is slightly vague… Just has to be out of public view in a locked inclosed area. I guess I don’t know why that can’t be a chicken wire fence with a cheap ass plastic lock holding the ends of the chicken wire together. Seems like that’s locked and enclosed to me. But I would really prefer just to throw a plant on the side of the hill where it would blend in with the rest of the vegetation and be done with it.
When it comes to CBD, a couple years ago, I purchased a pound… A full POUND of CBD flower for $65. At that price, why would you bother with all the headaches of growing, trimming, costs of electricity and soil on so on. Of course, I prefer to know where my stuff comes from and there’s nothing like enjoying your own harvest, but it’s hard to argue with the economics.
So… Maybe I will throw a plant in and see if I get any mold or other issues growing on my breezy hillside.
When it comes to “the good stuff”, I’m too young to be an old hippie, but I think weed should be free….seeds gifted, flower shared, etc. Manually pollinate an isolated branch and have hundreds of seeds to last a long while. I can buy a package of carrot seeds with about 1000 seeds in it for two dollars. Or a package of tomato seeds with about 50 seeds in it for two dollars. I don’t understand why cannabis seeds cost so much. I do understand that a lot of labor goes into developing these strains, but a lot of labor goes into developing tomato strains. And, seriously if you pollinated an entire plant, you’d have thousands and thousands of seeds.
The cannabis “business“ is very offputting to me.
BUT the openness of the cannabis community is very encouraging and I’m grateful for your and everyone else’s advice and support and this platform which has helped so many people!
Dboybudz
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Yea here in Northeast is kinda the same basically if it can't be seen from road and put in a fence with lock your most likely good. Like you said just put in a nice sunny spot hidden and don't tell anyone till you harvest. Or deck behind house would be good but not sure in your case with family. Yea $200 for 3 beans is nuts.
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ElmerS
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I even think $10 per is crazy.
Some People want the “latest thing” and I understand people are in the business to make money.
I can’t get my head around the fact that so many “fire” cultivars came from bag seed…stable genetics or not…
I finally broke down and bought a boatload of seeds (“test seeds” from Brothers Grimm) when I became impatient. 45 seeds for $85, 5 different varieties including the “bonus” pack of 9.
Anyway…. I probably will harvest main colas and leave a lower branch or two on the plant to pollinate and hopefully get all the seed I could possibly need….unless I find something I really can’t live without.
Some People want the “latest thing” and I understand people are in the business to make money.
I can’t get my head around the fact that so many “fire” cultivars came from bag seed…stable genetics or not…
I finally broke down and bought a boatload of seeds (“test seeds” from Brothers Grimm) when I became impatient. 45 seeds for $85, 5 different varieties including the “bonus” pack of 9.
Anyway…. I probably will harvest main colas and leave a lower branch or two on the plant to pollinate and hopefully get all the seed I could possibly need….unless I find something I really can’t live without.
Minnegrowta
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If you live next to someone that is anti- cannabis, you're gonna have a tough time, because when my gg girls were flowering you could smell them in the car from 3 blocks away. They will have an incredible stench.
Autos are gonna do what they're preprogrammed to do, they'll flower at a set time regardless of what kind of light exposure they're getting. You will want to check the strain on how much time you think you're going to get. I didn't realize you were working with auto's, in this case you will need to worry about frost. I plant feminized seeds that will flower when they start receiving less than about 13 hours of daylight, in which the rotation of the earth determines very rigidly when they flower.
The public view thing: my understanding is that the plants need to not be visible from the sidewalk/street. Chicken wire really doesn't obscure. My plants are behind 6 foot wood privacy fencing with padlock gates.
