How come no outrage over private prisons?

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ChesusRice

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deprave said:
so I made the 50% up, good call, the 50% is indeed from something


big fuckign whoop really. Point being a large perentage of Americans are incarcarated for non-violent crimes for the sake of the fat cats lining their pockets. Obama is associated with this as well .
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Bullshit
Everything Obama has done has actually decreased the need for private prisons at the Fed level
And the guy obama appointed to his re election campaign worked for a lawyer that did Lobbying for many clients
But you imply the guy worked solely for the private prison industry

I notice you make a lot of shit up
and ignore the facts

I am losing respect for someone I thought actually came to a debate with a belief system based on a version of morality
I highly doubt that now
I think you just are pissed off at the world especially now that your Messiah has been roundly rejected again by rational people
 
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ChesusRice

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InCognition said:
Funny.... says the guy who is a racist himself.

By the way, accepting money from a racist, does not make the recipient of that money, a racist. Nor does it mean the recipient endorses racism.

Good thing I cleared that up for you, right? I know. Now finish up high school so that you can make some more intelligent assumptions.
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Sure
those werent his newsletters
and we can just ignore the fact that he has stated he is against the Civil rights act
called martin luther king day "hate whitey day"
Was the only member of congress to of voted against honoring Rosa Parks

Whatever dude
and you can try to paint me anyway you want
the "you are a racist " argument you are trying to throw out there is ludicrous and only a racist would think you're right
 
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ChesusRice

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bedspirit said:
Seriously though, I think private prisons end up costing more in the long run. They may cost less per prisoner than a publicly owned state prison, but I suspect that their influence is what led to more prisoners. It wouldn't surprise me if the incarceration rate and the expansion of private prisons correlate.

I'm in favor of the decriminalization drugs. That, even more so than illegal immigrants, seems to be the bread and butter of the private prison industry and I suspect that their lobbying is one of the major roadblocks to drug reform
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Private prisons are not saving money in the short run and in fact cost more
And if you want to know who helped craft SB1070 it was CCA and alec
It gets even worse
Two of Brewers advisors
Paul Senseman is the governor’s deputy chief of staff. He is also a former lobbyist for CCA. His wife is listed as a current lobbyist for the company.
Chuck Coughlin is one of the governor’s policy advisers and her campaign chairman. Coughlin’s company, HighGround Public Affairs Consultants, currently lobbies for CCA.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Dr Kynes said:
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_03.html

nearly 50% of murders committed by a group that makes up 11% of the population. mind you this is not convictions, this is crimes where the perp's description can be ascertained, note the 4000+ crimes where the perp's race gender and age are "unknown".

this pattern continues through every type of crime up to "white collar" crimes.

the pattern is so damaging to racial apologists that in the 90's the FBI and DOJ combined white and hispanic together

women are incarcerated at a much lower rate than men, yet men make up only 50% of the population at large. one could make the same flawed argument that men are being "sexually profiled" and receive gender biased trials.

it would still be bullshit.
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I believe Jon Gettman did a study indicating that blacks indulge (cannabis) about 1/4 th more than whites yet are arrested at 3 times the rate. I think that prohibitionists used racist reasoning to aid in making cannabis illegal and that some of that has carried over to this day.
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
I believe Jon Gettman did a study indicating that blacks indulge (cannabis) about 1/4 th more than whites yet are arrested at 3 times the rate. I think that prohibitionists used racist reasoning to aid in making cannabis illegal and that some of that has carried over to this day.
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Ya think?
Try google
All drug laws originated with racist origins
Chinese Opium
Blacks Cocaine
Mexicans weed

look it up if you dont already know that
Check out the yellow journalism of the day
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Ya think?
Try google
All drug laws originated with racist origins
Chinese Opium
Blacks Cocaine
Mexicans weed

look it up if you dont already know that
Check out the yellow journalism of the day
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Well certainly race played a part in scaring white bread America. The idea that ANYBODY can tell another person what they can or cannot do with their own body, fruit of their labor or property is at the root of the problem.
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Well certainly race played a part in scaring white bread America. The idea that ANYBODY can tell another person what they can or cannot do with their own body, fruit of their labor or property is at the root of the problem.
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There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.“…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.” Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”
-Harry J. Anslinger
Americas pioneer weed warrior
 
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ChesusRice

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The association between cocaine and Blacks during the late 1800's and early 1900's was both direct and vicious. Hamilton Wright was again on the scene in 1910 giving congress the following warning about cocaine: "It has been authoritatively stated that cocaine is often the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the Negroes of the South and other sections of the country.[SUP]7[/SUP]

The following additional example comes from an article by Edward Huntington William, M.D., in The Medical Record in 1914: once the Negro has reached the stage of being a 'dope taker' (dope here referring to cocaine) . . . he is a constant menace to his community until he is eliminated . . . Sexual desires are increased and perverted, peaceful Negroes become quarrelsome, and timid Negroes develop a degree of 'Dutch courage' that is sometimes almost incredible. . In the language of the police officer, 'The cocaine nigger is sure hard to kill' - a fact that has been demonstrated so often that many of these officers in the South have increased the caliber of their guns for the express purpose of 'stopping' the cocaine fiend when he runs amuck. [SUP]8[/SUP]

A review of more popular reading of the day would have revealed the following statement in a 1914 Literary Digest article: "Under its (cocaine) influence are most of the daring crimes committed . . . Most of the attacks upon white women of the South are the direct result of a cocaine crazed Negro brain.

"[SUP]9[/SUP] Or consider the following attributes of cocaine as reported again by Edward Huntington Williams, M.D. in an article in the New York Times:The list of dangerous effects produced by cocaine . . . is certainly long enough. But there is another, and a most important one, this is a temporary steadying of the nervous and muscular system, so as to increase, rather than interfere with good marksmanship . . . the record of the 'cocaine nigger' near Asheville, who dropped five men dead in their tracks, using only one cartridge for each, offers evidence that is sufficiently convincing. [SUP]10[/SUP]
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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ChesusRice said:
Bullshit
Everything Obama has done has actually decreased the need for private prisons at the Fed level
And the guy obama appointed to his re election campaign worked for a lawyer that did Lobbying for many clients
But you imply the guy worked solely for the private prison industry

I notice you make a lot of shit up
and ignore the facts

I am losing respect for someone I thought actually came to a debate with a belief system based on a version of morality
I highly doubt that now
I think you just are pissed off at the world especially now that your Messiah has been roundly rejected again by rational people
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What are you talking about? 50% of drug inmates are black. You are the self proclaimed liar around here.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.“…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.” Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”
-Harry J. Anslinger
Americas pioneer weed warrior
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You haven't lived until you have pissed on Anslinger's grave.
 
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InCognition

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ChesusRice said:
Sure
those werent his newsletters
and we can just ignore the fact that he has stated he is against the Civil rights act
called martin luther king day "hate whitey day"
Was the only member of congress to of voted against honoring Rosa Parks

Whatever dude
and you can try to paint me anyway you want
the "you are a racist " argument you are trying to throw out there is ludicrous and only a racist would think you're right
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They were his news letters. The entirety of the news letters were not written by him. This has been known for quite some time now. It's anyone's guess as to whether or not he fully read the news letters before their release. You can keep guessing on the subject, but it's just a guess at best. No one knows.

He is against the civil rights act for it's property right infringements, and it's accreditation for inter-racial tension. If he is against the civil rights acts on the pure premise of race, he does a very good acting job. You want to ignore the facts on his opposition to such laws, but you endorse the idea that his opposition is backed purely by racism. That's about the least intelligent approach to understanding his viewpoints, one could possible make. This doesn't surprise me coming from you though.

Point me out to a direct quote, video, or voice recording, from Ron Paul himself, where he states that MLK day is "hate whitey day". If that quote comes from the newsletters, don't bother, as it's well known he did not write the entirety of it's contents.

By the way RP has voted for and against MLK day. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/96-1979/h625 & http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/98-1983/s281 - Sounds like he is more confused on his decision, rather than blatantly against it, on the premise of being a "hate whitey day".

This is where is really gets funny - you stating he voted against Rosa Parks. No, he didn't vote against Rosa Parks as a human-being. He voted against giving her a congressional medal of honor medal which happens to be a very expensive medal. You see, he voted against that on the premise of responsible tax money use. Handing out medals is not a wise use of tax money. Hopefully you understand this.


And it's not "whatever dude" to me. It's more like "whatever dude" to you, because you take the above "issues" and manipulate them into a delusionally-backed opposition to someone, on nothing more than what is truly ignorance.

I will paint you not what way I "want", but what way you are. You used unquoted, racist terminology, which would leave me to believe you have a hint of racism behind your arguments that you pander. A racist is a racist, though I do believe they can genuinely change their mind-set regarding such.
 
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So is Ron paul going to be the keynote speaker at the John Birch Society


Again this year?
 
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ChesusRice said:
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http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/charts5.htm#drug
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  1. Of the 249,400 state prison inmates serving time for drug offenses at yearend 2004, 112,500 (45.1%) were black, 51,800 (20.8%) were Hispanic, and 65,900 (26.4%) were white.
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Couture, Heather, and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, December 2007), NCJ219416, p. 24, Appendix Table 9.
  1. "At midyear 2006 more black men (836,800) were in custody in State or Federal prison or local jail than white men (718,100) or Hispanic men (426,900) (table 13). Black men comprised 41% of the more than 2 million men in custody, and black men age 20 to 29 comprised 15.5% of all men in custody on June 30, 2006. "Relative to their numbers in the general population, about 4.8% of all black men were in custody at midyear 2006, compared to about 0.7% of white men and 1.9% of Hispanic men. Overall, black men were incarcerated at 6.5 times the rate of white men. The incarceration rate for black men was highest among black men age 25 to 29. About 11.7% of black males in this age group were incarcerated on June 30, 2006. Across age groups black men were between 5.7 and 8.5 times more likely than white men to be incarcerated."
Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, Minton, Todd D., and Harrison, Paige M., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2006 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, June 2007), NCJ217675,

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percent_of_prisoners_are_black#ixzz22oBspqKO​
 
Moses Mobetta

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NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre said that the new BJS statistics belie the myth that few if any US prisoners are serving time for marijuana-related offenses. "According to these figures, nearly 45,000 state and federal prisoners are behind bars for having committed some type of cannabis-related offense," he said. "This means that US taxpayers are currently spending over $1 billion annually to incarcerate Americans for pot
 
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Moses Mobetta said:
NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre said that the new BJS statistics belie the myth that few if any US prisoners are serving time for marijuana-related offenses. "According to these figures, nearly 45,000 state and federal prisoners are behind bars for having committed some type of cannabis-related offense," he said. "This means that US taxpayers are currently spending over $1 billion annually to incarcerate Americans for pot
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At least when you post you bring something other than opinion with you
 
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