How many transplant from seed to harvest

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pollen205

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Hello

Can you please tell me in how many l pot I start...0.5 / 1l

Then when I transplant next time ?

And think about 3 transplant would be in final pot 25/30 l

One plant show in 80x80x160 cm growbox

Really want take that advantage of mycos and azos...
So what Is the best method to apply this two...
Last grow I add azos with every 2 watering in veg...
And i have regular mycos not water mycos and last grow i top dress with it and put it in my teas..
But heard that I only waste mycos...
So now I want go direct to root so must transplant couple of times...
Still dont understant that azos...
If I mix it in my soil mix will that be ok or I must go direct to root...
And will I then water with azos or not...

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bigsteve

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I start seedlings in 8 oz. Styrofoam cups and leave them there until they are 150-200% as tall as the cup. Then they go into 7-inch square "berry" pots until they reach topping/ FIMing size around 16-18 inches. They end up in 3-gallon pots. Works for me.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 
diggs99

diggs99

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I started in the red solo cups, they stayed in there until the leaves were extended past the edges of the cup (approx 2.5 weeks for me.)

Then i Moved them into 2g fabric pots, they were in there for 21 days. I used their watering routine ( and created my own thread asking rollitup) to determine when they were ready to move to their final pots. Basically when i first put them in the 2g pots, it would take them 4-5 days to dry out, the last few days before transplant, each plant was drying out the pots within 1 or 2 days max. They too were all extended past the edges of the 2g pots at the time of transplant.

Now they are in 5 gallon fabric pots and will finish in them. I am growing 4 plants in a 4x4 space, so i dont have the luxury of going any bigger.

i hope this helped.
 
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Lethidox

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i got from germinating in paper towel -> solo cups ( about 2 weeks by then they are ready to transplant for me ) -> 2gal - 5gal to finish up veg + flowering. the longer i plan to veg which is usually around 8 weeks for myself i can veg longer if i wanted to but im impatient. the less i plan to veg the smaller the pot. i use fabric pots only.

myko's you can only use when transplanting and must make direct contact with the roots. when transplanting dig your hole, put some in the hole and around the inside, take your plant remove it from the current pot and sprinkle around the root area. put in the hole and water after your done. Myko's WP i believe is the water soleuable one that one i believe you can mix with water and just water with it.

Azo's i don't use but i believe that is basically a root stimulator which helps to promote faster and stronger roots. Myko's is microrizhae; it's a single colony of microrizhae unlike other brands that have multiple species this one is just a single species. microrizhae are not root stimulators they are fungus that basically attach to your plants roots; etc.. thus why they recommend the use of both products. other then that i can't give you much info on the products or use as i to just started using myko's on my current grow. seems to work good for the cost i paid and how long it lasts.

best option is read the directions and follow per use. if you google up videos on youtube you can see what people do to apply things like myko's and recharge/great white. it's all the same way. some soils already carry microrizhae so i assume you can mix it in the soil but as for putting it in water unless it's maybe a powder form idk if that will work. i was trying to figure that out but i can't find any info on that. the WP version of myko's i believe is for hydroponics thus why you can mix it with the water but the regular version don't think u can do that. i would say try it out and see for yourself.

i might actually buy some azo's for my next grow but by the looks of it for me that won't really help much. im sure you got other products on the market as well you can use as root stimulators such as maybe kelp. usually some products already carry kelp such as fox farms big bloom. idk what you use for nutrients or what is available to you.

i personally like the 2gal pots 1gal seems way to small and the 2gals for me can run a good bit my plants are ending week 7 of veg tomorrow they can likely easily finish in them i bet. i was planning to go for 10 weeks of veg but decided not to. it's something im experimenting with
 
diggs99

diggs99

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JohnDee said:
Isn't it traumatic to roots to transplant out of fabric pots? I've heard that...but I just started using them...
JD
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I am honestly Not sure as this is my first time doing it myself. I hope not tho lol

I did watch lots of YouTube vids on the subject tho and read quite a few threads and articles. It's pretty common

Honestly it was painless, I just carefully cut down the side of the pots and removed entire root ball fully entact and placed it in final 5g pot.

They have since perked back up, so far so good.
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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diggs99 said:
I am honestly Not sure as this is my first time doing it myself. I hope not tho lol

I did watch lots of YouTube vids on the subject tho and read quite a few threads and articles. It's pretty common

Honestly it was painless, I just carefully cut down the side of the pots and removed entire root ball fully entact and placed it in final 5g pot.

They have since perked back up, so far so good.
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Most people re-use the fabric pots. But your technique sounds OK. Cheaper to buy plastic pots and just use fabric for your final one.
JD
 
diggs99

diggs99

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JohnDee said:
Most people re-use the fabric pots. But your technique sounds OK. Cheaper to buy plastic pots and just use fabric for your final one.
JD
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It's my first ever grow and 5 of the 2g pots cost me 15.00

I felt it was a good price to pay to lower the difficulty of transplanting them.


Honestly going forward I think I will prob use plastic for my middle pot and do as you guys are saying and just use fabric for my final pot.


Although as I said earlier, the process was easy and the plants show no signs of stress
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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diggs99 said:
It's my first ever grow and 5 of the 2g pots cost me 15.00

I felt it was a good price to pay to lower the difficulty of transplanting them.


Honestly going forward I think I will prob use plastic for my middle pot and do as you guys are saying and just use fabric for my final pot.


Although as I said earlier, the process was easy and the plants show no signs of stress
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Well yah if you cut them out of the pot there shouldn’t be any stress. But I’d rather not cut my dirt pots up. I keep them until they break down which hasn’t happened yet.
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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diggs99 said:
Although as I said earlier, the process was easy and the plants show no signs of stress
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Hey Diggs...I'd say you're more aware then many first time growers. Most never bother with up-potting and have tiny seedlings in 5 gal pots. lol

I actually like the idea of cutting the rootball out. A cheaper way to do it would be the plastic grow bags. Super cheap and they work OK.
JD
 
diggs99

diggs99

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Lordhooha said:
Well yah if you cut them out of the pot there shouldn’t be any stress. But I’d rather not cut my dirt pots up. I keep them until they break down which hasn’t happened yet.
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Ya i agree, i plan on keeping the 5g final pots for as long as they last. obv easier after harvest. no need to cut them.

not nearly as concerned about the 2g and 3gs tho lol. my choices were, leave them in 2gs to finish, roll them down over rootball, plant entire 2g pot into new 5g pot or cut those bad boys up and pop them into new bags.

i chose the latter lol

It was definitely something i questioned once they were getting close to up potting tho. I never thought about it beforehand when buying everything .
 
diggs99

diggs99

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JohnDee said:
Hey Diggs...I'd say you're more aware then many first time growers. Most never bother with up-potting and have tiny seedlings in 5 gal pots. lol

I actually like the idea of cutting the rootball out. A cheaper way to do it would be the plastic grow bags. Super cheap and they work OK.
JD
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thanks JD

i am learning as i go, trying to keep it simple and not kill them lol.

Second guessing myself every step of the way , as im sure most newbies do
 
rob333

rob333

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pollen205 said:
Hello

Can you please tell me in how many l pot I start...0.5 / 1l

Then when I transplant next time ?

And think about 3 transplant would be in final pot 25/30 l

One plant show in 80x80x160 cm growbox

Really want take that advantage of mycos and azos...
So what Is the best method to apply this two...
Last grow I add azos with every 2 watering in veg...
And i have regular mycos not water mycos and last grow i top dress with it and put it in my teas..
But heard that I only waste mycos...
So now I want go direct to root so must transplant couple of times...
Still dont understant that azos...
If I mix it in my soil mix will that be ok or I must go direct to root...
And will I then water with azos or not...

;)
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i go straight into a 30-40 ltr no issues
 
Old Thcool

Old Thcool

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JohnDee said:
Isn't it traumatic to roots to transplant out of fabric pots? I've heard that...but I just started using them...
JD
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Probably not that bad, it's just a pain in the ass and needs either 2 people if you want to reuse the pot or a set of scissors. The roots prune themselves anyway cant really see that much of a difference unless you shit kick them on the way out of the sack?
 
Old Thcool

Old Thcool

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I've seen hydro weed ripped out of a deep water culture complete with big assed harry rootball get the twist method into a huge pot of supersoil and survive reasonably well. I wouldn't suggest it but hey... the dude needed extra room in the house so he put the plant in the garden.
 
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Lethidox

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JohnDee said:
Isn't it traumatic to roots to transplant out of fabric pots? I've heard that...but I just started using them...
JD
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im sure it is your basically ripping the roots off the fabric pot since they grow into it. i don't think it is as bad though like just transplant shock basically. they can grow pretty damn big in smaller fabric pots compared to plastic pots though from what i've heard just due to the air pruning. what i have also seen/considered highly 2 things.

1. place the pot onto a larger pot or ground. roots should grow into the new pot or ground. 2. i've seen people double pot in the sense they grow in a small fabric pot then they pot up by putting the fabric pot into a bigger fabric pot and just back filling and it will work like #1 and roots will grow into the bigger fabric pot. i don't see a lot of people doing these but i do see some. usually out door growers.

with #2 it just costs more money idk how much you guys pay for fabric pots but here in my state they are not easy to find unless you go to garden shops and they are pricey i think i paid $5-7 for my 2gal fabric pots.
 
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