How much protection do you think the new rulings give us?

gladstoned said:

I am too simple to look at that viewpoint also, til you bring it up anyway.
I see your viewpoint. I still think that you are completely bass akwards though. I think the little guy is tired of getting fucked by those corporations you are talking about and the government. Our government and the big corporations fucking kill little guys for sport. If you want to go there, couldn't there be a debate on white collar crime being a much bigger problem at a local, state, national, and global problem? Corporations and governments run EVERYTHING. I stand with others and say those motherfuckers cross the line trying to fuck with my medicine! If I supply other patients, testing is necessary. (Hopefully at 'reasonable' rate) Inspections, not so much. Or certainly not random or often, if ever - after an initial walk though.
I think you paint the picture of the average caregiver very poorly. And then for being as intelligent as you are, it's almost weird how niave you are being about corporate corruption and our entire political system. Do you really honestly believe that caregivers pushing limits is a bigger global problem than the questionable and often illegal practices of corporations and governments?!? That is absolutely ludacris to me. Am I high and paranoid? Oh, maybe not all I need to do is turn on CNN or any other news channel.

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gladstoned said:

I disagree.
We run this shit. How have I gotten high for the last 20+ years then?

They have the bats and gloves, but we all like football better. They said we can't play football we have to play baseball. We said Fuck you and fuck baseball. Then we kept playing football. Then they kept trying to break up our football games. Then even though it was illegal, football still became the biggest sport. Now the government says, "hey I got an idea for a new type of football", and we said "hey how about you go fuck yourself."

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gladstoned said:

I can talk tough. But I don't break the law much. I am mad about shit, but not mad enough to go back to prison. Look at this guy, I just found this. Belle must know him alot of her family is from engadine and most people out there burn. http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/story.aspx?id=761689#.T85w-cU8WHk.

Bob, that is bullshit. People have gotten less time for manufacturing meth and sucking baby dicks all the time in the UP. Time to time I go to that site and the court ruling hardly ever make sense.

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gladstoned said:

400 plants is a lot. But my back is killing me and Im laying here with news on for Marquette. Dude got sentenced to 365 days in county jail for using facebook to try to get nude pictures of 13 year old. Se what I am saying. That dude should get 10 years and then be eligible for release if they take his cock and/or balls.

The dude with the plants. The feds watched him for awhile obviously. What is they waited till harvest and then took the buds and sold them in one of the dispensaries they terrorized.

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Timmahh said:

federal is irrelevant, we cant change federal, but we can, and have in the state. The law is not vague or poorly written, that is just the propaganda bill schuette wants to profess.

the law is very clear. Does anything in the Law allow for Dispensaries? Imo, No, but it does allow for Pts and Caregivers, to help other Pts, and Caregivers that have at the minimum a Drs recommendation, and on the maximum, a registry card. This also extends to help Visiting Patients with proper Dr Recommendation or Their Home State issued card, if applicable.

a Pt or a CG that is a registrant, can hold and maintain up to 12 plants, and 2.5 oz of dried usable material at any point in time (not every 60 days, not every 60 minutes, not even every 60 seconds, ANY POINT IN TIME) is allowed to be possessed. A pt or a cg or a visiting pt, can have any amount reasonably necessary to provide an uninterruptible supply.

no where does it say anything about co op grows, BUT it is un reasonable to think a husband or wife, or room mates, or people that share domicile, were intended to keep everything in completely separate areas, fully devoid of any other Pt or CG, regardless of that Pt or CG being a Registered Pt of a Registered CG.
The Act clearly states, any Pt or CG can help any Pt or CG in the Medical Use of cannabis. Period. Stop. END OF POINT.
The Act clearly states, manufacture, delivery, possession, transfer ect. are all clearly allowable actions as part of the act. As every one of those Actions are Exclusionary from Prosecution, and if you are a registrant, even arrest so long as you are in compliance with the limits set forth...

Nowhere does it say anything about a dispensary. The reason is the Michigan Voter (myself included) didnt want a bunch of dispensaries throughout the state. for myself mostly out a tact and good taste, but also because I was not particularly fond of the idea of Big Money coming into the State, and Gouging the patients as we had happening. I dont Have a problem with shutting down the dispensaries ect, that were taking advantage of Patients...

But after realizing the volume of Pts and CGs that got great help from some of them (yes more that a few were full on SHIT), I realized the need for a "dispensary" TYPE establishment. This, in my personal opinion is exactly where the Farmers Market model Shines at it's best. The cost for the Patient is lower and will remain lower, quality will be higher than it can be most anywhere else, which was part of the Intent of the Act. Low Cost and higher quality medicine for patients.

When you read the Act from top to bottom, and put all its pieces into the proper place, it is very black and white, and a solid piece of legislation. Don't be fooled by those that want you to THINK it is poorly written. IF it was so Poorly Written, why did the Michigan Supreme Court just uphold every word, comma, and period of the 2008 MMM Act, in Its entirety, and Unanimously?

Fact is, the upheld it because of 2 reasons, It was very well written, thought out, and prepared, and it was Passed by a Peoples Initiative with a Large Majority Vote by Michigan Voters.

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Timmahh said:

now your just showing your ignorance.

but if thats what floats your boat. Perhaps a pink cadillac will suit the new venture better for you. OH OH I Know, a Rolling Paddy Wagon Pot Dispensary. lol dolt.

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Timmahh said:

now your just showing your ignorance.

but if thats what floats your boat. Perhaps a pink cadillac will suit the new venture better for you. OH OH I Know, a Rolling Paddy Wagon Pot Dispensary. lol dolt.

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Timmahh said:

federal is irrelevant, we cant change federal, but we can, and have in the state. The law is not vague or poorly written, that is just the propaganda bill schuette wants to profess.

the law is very clear. Does anything in the Law allow for Dispensaries? Imo, No, but it does allow for Pts and Caregivers, to help other Pts, and Caregivers that have at the minimum a Drs recommendation, and on the maximum, a registry card. This also extends to help Visiting Patients with proper Dr Recommendation or Their Home State issued card, if applicable.

a Pt or a CG that is a registrant, can hold and maintain up to 12 plants, and 2.5 oz of dried usable material at any point in time (not every 60 days, not every 60 minutes, not even every 60 seconds, ANY POINT IN TIME) is allowed to be possessed. A pt or a cg or a visiting pt, can have any amount reasonably necessary to provide an uninterruptible supply.

no where does it say anything about co op grows, BUT it is un reasonable to think a husband or wife, or room mates, or people that share domicile, were intended to keep everything in completely separate areas, fully devoid of any other Pt or CG, regardless of that Pt or CG being a Registered Pt of a Registered CG.
The Act clearly states, any Pt or CG can help any Pt or CG in the Medical Use of cannabis. Period. Stop. END OF POINT.
The Act clearly states, manufacture, delivery, possession, transfer ect. are all clearly allowable actions as part of the act. As every one of those Actions are Exclusionary from Prosecution, and if you are a registrant, even arrest so long as you are in compliance with the limits set forth...

Nowhere does it say anything about a dispensary. The reason is the Michigan Voter (myself included) didnt want a bunch of dispensaries throughout the state. for myself mostly out a tact and good taste, but also because I was not particularly fond of the idea of Big Money coming into the State, and Gouging the patients as we had happening. I dont Have a problem with shutting down the dispensaries ect, that were taking advantage of Patients...

But after realizing the volume of Pts and CGs that got great help from some of them (yes more that a few were full on SHIT), I realized the need for a "dispensary" TYPE establishment. This, in my personal opinion is exactly where the Farmers Market model Shines at it's best. The cost for the Patient is lower and will remain lower, quality will be higher than it can be most anywhere else, which was part of the Intent of the Act. Low Cost and higher quality medicine for patients.

When you read the Act from top to bottom, and put all its pieces into the proper place, it is very black and white, and a solid piece of legislation. Don't be fooled by those that want you to THINK it is poorly written. IF it was so Poorly Written, why did the Michigan Supreme Court just uphold every word, comma, and period of the 2008 MMM Act, in Its entirety, and Unanimously?

Fact is, the upheld it because of 2 reasons, It was very well written, thought out, and prepared, and it was Passed by a Peoples Initiative with a Large Majority Vote by Michigan Voters.

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DankGrower said:

What law are you reading. The one I voted for in Michigan was pretty vague and wide open lacking definition and leaving nothing but room for interpretation to be spun or added via the standard law amending practices which do not require a vote of the general public. I am glad the courts have held up the law as it is for the time being however I have also saw a lot of those judges nearly begging our law makers to add better definition to the law so they have guide lines and rules to uphold.

Here is what the law does say about what cg and pt my do and it is nothing at all like what you claim it to be. Period. End of story. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%28mbx4kf554btyxe55qdkpljfr%29%29/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-333-26424

As for visiting PT The law is also clear on this and they are offered NO protections under the law. Please get off your soap box sir it is full of manure just like you.

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