how to keep your seedlings under 3 inches tall FOR DUMMIES!

skoalmint614

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have you had any issues with people selling LED's that dont produce the right kind of light? ive bin scared anyways because of hearing about bullshit LED's being sold. on the other hand thats a beautiful CFL setup! i wanna build my own one day , ive always hung my cfls from extension cords ( gehhto i know ) and raise / lower them with the cord
 

Dan can grow

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have you had any issues with people selling LED's that dont produce the right kind of light? ive bin scared anyways because of hearing about bullshit LED's being sold. on the other hand thats a beautiful CFL setup! i wanna build my own one day , ive always hung my cfls from extension cords ( gehhto i know ) and raise / lower them with the cord
To be honest it was the first led I bought.
 

$bkbbudz$

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I was considering LED for my equipment when I started purchasing this time. I did A LOT of research on this. What I found was that in general the LED pros prefer DIY to over priced and over hyped commercial fixtures. Being a mechanical moron that has a hard time with a simple screwdriver I decided to stay with what I know best and grow with the tried and true HID.
 

$bkbbudz$

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Well, I see the original op was about keeping seedlings short. I use a 150w cfl about 2 inches from my babies. Very simple and keeps them nice and short.
 

Dan can grow

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Keeping lights close air moving and topping or fimmimg at the fourth node is what I do. Also when transplanting I do bury them deeper, that buried stem does make roots.
 

KryptoBud

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this is a simple tutorial with pictures of a micro bagseed grow , to show the fellow newbies how easy it is too keep your seedlings under 3 inches all the way into the second node!

well guess what! weak lights is not an excuse :cool: ..... i do grows with micro 8 watt florescent tubes and 21 watt CFL lights, and my seedlings are not even 2 inches tall and already have thick stems and are on their second nodes with the first true leaves large and in charge!

how? simple , take the stems of the new born seedlings and bend them gently so they are bent straight over with the soil..... come back in a day or so when the plant has started groing upwards again and bury that length of the stem in the soil.....come back and do it again....then cut the starter leaves off and bury up too the first set of true leaves...BANG you have successfully saved your seedlings from wasting a whole foot on stem space! ....now your seedlings should grow much more bushy and stay much shorter. ive even seen a reduction in inter node length threw ought the whole veg just by doing this during the first few weeks.
You should get this info to a mod. maybe make it a sticky

NOTICE how the plants have changed spots from me burying the stems....those buried stems grow roots and become roots!

( pics of whole process attached... )
 

ricardohaviera

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Thanks for the info, its extremely helpful for a newbie like myself. What are some of your yields? Id imagine a few grams max right?
 

skoalmint614

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Thanks for the info, its extremely helpful for a newbie like myself. What are some of your yields? Id imagine a few grams max right?
on the shoe box grow il pull about a half ounce on 2 plants , so yea about 7 grams a plant , and they are very hard to keep healthy in a box that small because of how much needs to be done to them in order to keep them small enough to be somewhat healthy.

i end up cutting the big fan leaves off normally and also trimming the whole plant back a few times in order to stop it from growing into the sides of the shoe box , the buds i get are crystaly and get you high just fine , but they lack in size and density. however its very fun to grow small plants!

i also have a few large plants that i call my closet monsters because i grow them with no lights whatsoever besides the normal closet light bulb in the ceilings , they get extremely stretchy and are not healthy at all , but they throw out about a ounce of bud per plant , the buds are light airy and not strong at all , but guess what! i literally pay little to nothing whatsoever for it! tap water , miracle grow bloom booster ( from start to finish ) and the cheapest non fertilized soil i can get my hands on ( which i re use multiple times ). thats all i do for my closet monsters and it gives me enough bud to have something to smoke if i run out of my good shit! ( which happens all the time ) and i also have bud to throw my people if they have none!
 

GreenLogician

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have you had any issues with people selling LED's that dont produce the right kind of light?
What you find is LEDs that produce just blue and red, mixing together into a purple.
You don't want to use *just* those, but they are good supplementals to something with a broader spectrum.
'White' lights are broad spectrum, and they come with peaks in around three areas - warm light (reddest), natural light (middle), cool light (bluest).
Any of those, ideally all three, mixed with some blue+red=purple LEDs as well is my scene.
If I had to choose one way or the other, I'd dump the blue+red=purple and go with just the 'whites'.
If I couldn't mix all three whites I'd use bluest for veg, reddest for flower.

Here's what I use -
Blue+red=purple: "28w E27 LED Grow Light Kit Hydroponics Plant Veg Flower Lamp Blub"
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/28W-E27-LED-Grow-Light-Kit-Hydroponics-Plant-Veg-Flower-Lamp-Blub-/191852191605?hash=item2cab481f75:g:ppUAAOSwXj5XF0Ms

The three whites: "Dimmable LED COB Spot Light Bulbs 18W E27/E14/GU10/MR16 Natural/Cool/Warm White"
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dimmable-LED-COB-Spot-Light-Bulbs-18W-E27-E14-GU10-MR16-Natural-Cool-Warm-White-/252401684245?var=&hash=item3ac4500f15:m:mUU1liRWkr99TEoX1f3izEg

E27 socket splitter: "3/6 in 1 E27 Base Light Lamp Bulb Adapter Holder Socket Splitter for Softbox" (select "6 in 2")
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-6-in-1-E27-Base-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Adapter-Holder-Socket-Splitter-for-Softbox-/371652089167?var=&hash=item568830d54f:m:mck2eVrGDPkufNfBYdOmw7g
 
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