How to KILL powdery mildew on clones

samchesser

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I have a mother with a slight case of PM, the PM is obviously systematic so even though my clones don't have mildew on them now, they are undoubtedly going to get it soon. Is there something to treat the clones with that will treat the problem from the inside out. Things like sernade, milk, potassium bicarbonate, sulfur burners only treat, they do not cure. Anyone ever actually cured plants for good?
 
that is in the genetics man some plants are just more likely to get it. i have seen people breed plants to make them super resistant to mold and mildew its somewhere i'll find it
 
i cant find it right now but it was crazy one plant covered in mildew and the other clean not a spec crazy
 
I'm not worried about it getting PM, PM is systematic, that means its already IN the plant if clones are taken from an infected mother. I wanna know if I can kill it in some way other than killing the mother and starting over. I figured there might be a way to treat the clones, kill the mom and make a new mother from one of them. I have heard Eagle 20 is a systematic fungicide but want other suggestions, maybe cheaper or safer ones. I'm most likely gonna kill her, just looking for alternate solutions. I had a very sterile room until I brought an infected clone from Harborside into my system. Harborside, you suck!
 
damn that sucks man oaksterdam was giving out clones for a while with horrible PM issues about a year back i remember hearing a lot of people complain about that
 
well i put an OG in with my other strain, OG always has mildew, shoulda known better. I can still blame them though.
 
not all OG has that problem i have had a bunch of OG that never got a spec even in a room where 1 or 2 other og strains did have a bit only small amounts on the water leaves never an issue in flower. this is in a room with humidity at 52% and lots of moving air. my other room has never had any PM issues with all different OG strains same environmental conditions
 
eagle 20 works m8

Thanks bro, how long does it take for that to work. Say I get a new clone, can I treat it with that once and its gone? Maybe make a gallon mixture and just dunk the whole thing. Or is it gonna take several applications. I know completely dunking clones in avid works for mites so I thought that might be a good way to decontaminate PM prior to introducing into a clean garden.
 
I have a mother with a slight case of PM, the PM is obviously systematic so even though my clones don't have mildew on them now, they are undoubtedly going to get it soon. Is there something to treat the clones with that will treat the problem from the inside out. Things like sernade, milk, potassium bicarbonate, sulfur burners only treat, they do not cure. Anyone ever actually cured plants for good?

Get a different healthy mother.
 
that would work too
problem with replacing the mother is that I use clone only strains and that means I have to find the clone, then grow it out to make sure it the same one (in many cases its not) and then grow the mom back out. That's a long process.
 
On my big Bubbas I use a mix of baking soda and water.
It gets rid of the powdery mildew and keeps it from coming/growing back due to
the change in PH in the leafs. This works very well for me with perfect results
every time.
 
The eagle is loaded, can't use it now cause i'm in flower but will dunk the babies soon and see if I can rid myself of this headache once and for all. If it works, every foreigner gets a bath from now on.

As for baking powder, been there tried that. Only worked as a bandaid for me. Plus I don't like spraying anything in flower, even if its only baking powder. Thanks for the tip though.
 
Eagle20 works (without a doubt). It doesn't kill the PM that is hanging around, it prevents it from finding a new place to hang around, and protects the still uninfected areas of the plant (and becomes systemic for a long period of time in the plant, which prevents it from returning for a good length of time). However, it is really nasty stuff. Cover your skin (completely - mask over your face - cover your hair), use a real respirator (not a fucking cloth dust mask from Home Depot), suite up (use a plastic painters suite, not a CLOTH ABSORBENT painters suite - you can also get suites specific for these types of applications but they usually cost a little more, and since hopefully it will be a one time use, a disposable should work just fine), make sure if your respirator isn't World War III status and cover your eyes, that you wear goggles, and make sure you wear chemical grade protective gloves signified usually by their pH capacity (and learn how to take them off properly so that you don't just contaminate your hands in the end like an idiot - Something I would suspect that someone that things PM is systemic might do)

However, for clippings it is risky. I would use something simple (like manually cleaning off the plant than spraying with water and hydrogen peroxide - something along those lines - You know, don't be fucking lazy) and save the Eagle20 for a later measure (when the plants are larger and a few weeks into veg - The Eagle20 won't protect them forever, they will grow, the new growth won't have any help, and considering that just might be a skilled PM farmer, you will end up spraying it again anyways - So, it is best to wait and provide protection that will last through flowering). Just keep an eye on them.

Eagle20 will chemically castrate you and make your children three-eyed-"I think PM is systemic"-mongols if you don't get cancer first. Never spray it late in the veg cycle. In order to be even rationally appropriate about it you can't spray it within 45 days of harvest, and in reality since they are not apples you are going to wash and polish, that number should really be 60 or more. If your babies are so powdered and fucked up that its not even rational to try to keep them, throw them away and start a new life. A life where you have taken the proper steps to rid your PM production. Eagle20 works - But so does not being a fuck up.

I have only had one problem with PM in my history, which was given to me like herpes from an idiot (one of those people that think its systemic I bet). I used Eagle20 one time and took some other steps and it never impacted me again, because I don't produce those situations, and I know what the fuck I am doing (I swear to God people just never get it. Read something, like... At the library... Maybe find a real life mentor that knows what they are doing - and if they have problems and fixes for them - they don't know what the fuck they are doing. Find someone that has learned to grow without problems, not take chemical short cuts because their still an amateur coping).

One thing to remember is that you have to carefully treat and clean your room (between every cycle. If you are growing in your closet or something - If you don't have a real space that can actually be properly cleaned, stop growing, or just accept the fact that growing in a closet isn't pro status no matter how hard you try - Its an amateur situation so expect amateur problems. And don't spray Eagle20 anywhere in your home or over a carpet, ffs). Beyond that, you should reconsider the configuration of your space, look for issues, and so on. Sometimes, a simple dehumidifier can go a long way in dealing with these types of infections (I have never had bud rot but the idiot that gave me the PM has, but thankfully, he installed a dehumidifier and stopped suffering bud rot - He also said it all but prevented and killed his PM problem... Just think... Its just a little box you plug in... AWESOME!). Air flow is important. Humidity is important. Cleanliness is important. Removing infected leaves is important (and weak leaves. Weak plants - Plants not taken care of... Underfed or whatever the case may be, will invite pests and issues quickly. Remove damaged leaves before they become damaged and infected leaves, ready to pass their STD to healthy leaves).

I cleaned my room by doing the following: After harvest I removed the glass from my hoods and killed the ducting (in-line fan). I than sprayed the floor and walls with hydrogen peroxide. I than scrubbed the walls down with dish soap and water (and the hoods, the fans, the ceiling, the floor.. well.. you get the point). I remembered why I keep my tools in rubbing alcohol. Than, I turned the lights on (again without any cooling) on a hot day (it was nearly 100 out), I kicked on the portable heater on full blast, turned off all of the air circulation, and locked the door. I waited until the temp read 130 for about 4 hours. I kicked on the fans and opened the door and let it cool. Than, I did it again the next day for 4 hours. Than, sprayed my 3 week old new babies (which showed no sign of PM, but that it only takes one spore you can't see) with Eagle 20, separated them, and let each one mature for another week, watching each one closely. I threw away everything replaceable - Pots, twisties, scissors, goggles, gloves, bamboo (the bamboo fucks a lot of people over, they just don't think of it!), and I enjoyed a sense of "new" (I love that new grow room smell!).

I am writing this for anyone that comes this way later on. I was trying to find the answer to this question specifically, "Can Eagle20 stall or damage rooting" - This popped up in Google. My friend that handed PM to me that one time on a Northern Lights platter (if you will) has mostly learned to not be a PM farmer - But now he wants to "save" that strain (and the Mother is not doing so hot - go figure, hes been trying to use 'natural remedies' to deal with the PM issue for a long time now... Making this poor plant suffer over and over again) - So, he wants to know if he can use it the instant he takes the clippings or not (and make two of them Mothers... Though, I don't know why, that Northern Lights he has didn't impress me in the slightest - If I was him I would just fucking move on). My thought was that I would wait until I had root first - But that is just my opinion so I was looking for others.

Have a nice day.
 
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