Powdery Mildew Permanent Cure?

nc208 said:
As far as my limited research goes Powdery Mildew seems to be systemic. I made the mistake of partnering with someone and now all my mothers had PM. they've given cuts back to me but is this just a ticking time bomb waiting to pop out again as soon as the conditions are not favorable? I've had 2 flower runs get ruined because of this crap and have cleaned everything to start over.

Are my genetics just fucked? Has anyone found an actual cure or method that can kill it in veg and it not come back? I've heard TC can clean HLVd so maybe something like that? I've used many sprays and they all do the same crap which is hold it at bay for a little while. I read on quest website that Eagle 20 can work but screw that cancerous shit.
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@JewelRunner speak up sir. Give your full gambit. Explain how it will not come back either. This will be good.
 
nc208 said:
Thanks everyone for all your responses. A lot of great info here for sure. A lot of info points to it not being systemic but I've seen a lot of folks go to insane lengths only for it to keep popping up. I found Quest had a ton of great knowledge for folks to read. I've found some folks swear by one product while others refute their success so I'm confused as to find a clear good product to effectively use in Veg.
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Quick question? Do you still work for and LP if so what are they using?
 
Lightgreen2k said:
@JewelRunner speak up sir. Give your full gambit. Explain how it will not come back either. This will be good.
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It kills on contact and lowers leaf ph making the plant less susceptible to blight and mildew as well as pests(mainly in the arachnid family so mites typically). Treat once every two weeks in veg and never mix with oil based treatments or you’ll murder your plants out quick.
 
Lightgreen2k said:
Quick question? Do you still work for and LP if so what are they using?
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Yes, we use a mixture of sprays in rotation, Regalia Maxx, Zerotol, and Milstop with the addition of burning Sulphur. Im leaning towards ordering Zerotol 2.0 because I know a few folks who have used it on an outbreak and swear by it, plus I've used it at work. I like Regalia because its easy on the plants but its messy as hell, I planned to do this in a tent so I'm not sure regalia would be the best with how messy and staining it is.
 
JewelRunner said:
It kills on contact and lowers leaf ph making the plant less susceptible to blight and mildew as well as pests(mainly in the arachnid family so mites typically). Treat once every two weeks in veg and never mix with oil based treatments or you’ll murder your plants out quick.
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Sorry but which product is this?
 
nc208 said:
Yes, we use a mixture of sprays in rotation, Regalia Maxx, Zerotol, and Milstop with the addition of burning Sulphur. Im leaning towards ordering Zerotol 2.0 because I know a few folks who have used it on an outbreak and swear by it, plus I've used it at work. I like Regalia because its easy on the plants but its messy as hell, I planned to do this in a tent so I'm not sure regalia would be the best with how messy and staining it is.
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I know the hardships of it spreading in the tent, it's as if you want to scrape everything and start over.
 
bam0813 said:
Just saw a 15 gal sprayer cheap was thinking of mounting to a wagon , should get the whole rack on it lol thanks for that potassium silicate tip btw
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I like airless paint sprayers. They give a super fine gentle mist that (even though I say gentle) has quite a push to it. It moves the plants around quite a bit, even from ten feet away, without damaging anything.
It makes it fast and easy to cover everything.
 
since nobody seems to believe me a few of my clones got pm from mother & i’ll do pics & video if this site allows video & will do everyday to prove my solution works 100%
 
56nitty said:
since nobody seems to believe me a few of my clones got pm from mother & i’ll do pics & video if this site allows video & will do everyday to prove my solution works 100%
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You posted that 30 mins ago on a Friday Night. It's the weekend too, people might not be on this thread as much, in this thread about pm.

Post your methods, how long have you been using this?
 
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Dreminen169 said:
@xtsho when your spaying AGSIL16H are you doing it after lights out like for neem? or can you spray whenever?
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I've never sprayed it indoors but I would imagine it should be sprayed with the lights off. Either an hour prior or just at lights out. I've only used it on outdoor cannabis plants, my vegetable garden, and roses. I had no PM last year when I typically get bad PM on some of my vegetables especially the squashes and cucumbers which are a PM magnet. The roses didn't get it either like they do every year. There has actually been a significant amount of study regarding the US of potassium silicate and PM.

I also wouldn't spray it on the buds as it's going to dry on the plant but if used throughout veg it should build up on the leaves to create a barrier preventing PM from taking hold. Although, after thinking about it some it would probably wash off with a bud wash at harvest like people use if their plants had PM during flower.

"Potassium silicate (KSi) impose suppressive effect on fungal growth and increase plant immunity by forming a physical barrier on leaf surface (Liang et al., 2005). KSi enhance the concentration of free amino acids and defense related enzymes in the plants"

"Spray of nutrient solutions before the onset of disease, result in significant reduction of disease incidence."


 
56nitty said:
For around $80 bucks pm poof gone! no mildew no bugs just great pot! My own recipe.
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Well then post the recipe. Or are you trying to sell it for $80.

56nitty said:
since nobody seems to believe me a few of my clones got pm from mother & i’ll do pics & video if this site allows video & will do everyday to prove my solution works 100%
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What good do pics and a video do anyone? If you have some 100% recipe either share it so people can see if it works or stop talking about it.
 
xtsho said:
I've never sprayed it indoors but I would imagine it should be sprayed with the lights off. Either an hour prior or just at lights out. I've only used it on outdoor cannabis plants, my vegetable garden, and roses. I had no PM last year when I typically get bad PM on some of my vegetables especially the squashes and cucumbers which are a PM magnet. The roses didn't get it either like they do every year. There has actually been a significant amount of study regarding the US of potassium silicate and PM.

I also wouldn't spray it on the buds as it's going to dry on the plant but if used throughout veg it should build up on the leaves to create a barrier preventing PM from taking hold. Although, after thinking about it some it would probably wash off with a bud wash at harvest like people use if their plants had PM during flower.

"Potassium silicate (KSi) impose suppressive effect on fungal growth and increase plant immunity by forming a physical barrier on leaf surface (Liang et al., 2005). KSi enhance the concentration of free amino acids and defense related enzymes in the plants"

"Spray of nutrient solutions before the onset of disease, result in significant reduction of disease incidence."


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I do the wash even without any pm showing. Sooo many things you don't see come off. Tiny dead bugs, hairs ,dust, who knows wtf that little thing is, type stuff. And like you suggested it removes any residual bicarbonate or anything else. And the wash kills off any new spores that have landed on them just prior to harvest. I NEVER get post harvest problems since starting this years ago.
 
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JimmiP said:
I do the wash even without any pm showing. Sooo many things you don't see co.e off. Tiny dead bugs, hairs ,dust, who knows wtf that little thing is, type stuff. And like you suggested it removes any residual bicarbonate or anything else. And the wash kills off any new spores that have landed on them just prior to harvest. I NEVER get post harvest problems since starting this years ago.
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I wash outdoor weed and I feel better smoking it knowing that I washed off all the crap that ends up in the water. I've had plants that a bird decided to poop on. Disgusting.

I squirm whenever I see pictures of buds covered in hair and lint. I've had friends who's weed was so nasty that when you went to break up the buds they would almost stay together from all the dog hair and crap embedded in them. That's worse than the old brick weed where you would occasionally find a chunk of spider web, dead spider, or other bugs.

I don't wash my indoor grown because it's pretty damn clean. The only time anything can get in is when I open the door. All the intake vents are covered with I think MERV 8 filter material.
 
xtsho said:
I wash outdoor weed and I feel better smoking it knowing that I washed off all the crap that ends up in the water. I've had plants that a bird decided to poop on. Disgusting.

I squirm whenever I see pictures of buds covered in hair and lint. I've had friends who's weed was so nasty that when you went to break up the buds they would almost stay together from all the dog hair and crap embedded in them. That's worse than the old brick weed where you would occasionally find a chunk of spider web, dead spider, or other bugs.

I don't wash my indoor grown because it's pretty damn clean. The only time anything can get in is when I open the door. All the intake vents are covered with I think MERV 8 filter material.
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Don't forget the rocks, bottle caps and plastic that came in those bricks too. They let you keep all that stuff for free! Lol
 
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