bigjesse1922
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Doggy how strong are your nutrients right now?
How too Harvest 1/2 pound with 250w+LST!
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jesicalorren
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nah i been doin it since beg of feb. and ive learned alot , right now i got somewere around i dont know 150 or so , pretty much sog but im gonna be topping for 4 colas and babying these more
jesicalorren
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BTW in my oppinion that baby is alright but im kinna new i guess, the rest of the leaf and all the others look good , as long as it dont spread it should be str8
doggyd
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Well they are not high at all, 652ppm to 1 gallon. I was going very light when I started like 300ppm. Last week I noticed slow growth so the last 2 watering I have been giving her PH water, sorta like a flush, just not. She came back strong when i gave her Ph water. Now i think I noticed this problem starting like 2 weeks ago and I'm thinking I might have been to much nutes. Please remember that I am growing in fox farm soil and its super rich in ferts.!
Can I get these problems because room Humidity is low and I cannot control good Humidity?
bigjesse1922
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It's not from humidity.
What's the NPK of what you're feeding them? Doesn't look like burn to me and especially not at that level.
jesicalorren
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i agree with big jesse and if u wana up ur humidity just hang a damp towel in the room, usually brings it from 20 up to about 50 then do that again when it dries out, its what i used to do but now my humidity has kinda balanced out to about 55 all the time
doggyd
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Well right now I'm only using Advanced Nutrients 3 part Grow, Bloom, Micro!....Micro 4-0-0, Bloom 0-5-4 micro 1-4-6.
What about the soil being extremely high in fertilizer and then with nutes, this comes about?Possible? Possible High fertilizer? So now that I have water my plant 2 times with ph water, should I go ahead and start back with the nutes or should I wait until 2 more watering of just ph water! Confused! My plant seems to be doing amazing with just PH water! I think I should start back on the nutes and up the PPM!! ADVICE PLEASE
bigjesse1922
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In soil, it takes 7-14 days for results to show up.
I would say to continue feeding. Water, water, water+nutrients is what I do. Looks to me like the beginnings of a Mg def more than anything else.
Do any of your leaf tips curl up, or down?
doggyd
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Actually no, the plant is rockin! That is the only problem happening right now! Like I said its very little but If i don't catch the problem now it may get worse....
If it is MG, then I should up my nutes right!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigjesse1922
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Can you link me to whatever feeding schedule you're using, or can you find out how much of the 652 PPM is Mg?
kevin murphy
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doggyd
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Here is the feeding schedule I am using, Straight from Advanced Nutrients!
Here is a relatively simple version of the feeding chart that includes a number of our supplements and additives, while still giving you great results and yields. Let me know if there is anything else I can add or if this is sufficient.
Vegetative growth
We do not recommend applying any nutrients until your plants have developed 3-4 sets of new or true leafs if grown from clones or seedlings. Also, if growing in amended soil, do not apply any nutrients until the plants have used up all the nutrients supplied by the soil. Having said that, here is what we suggest:
Until they develop 3 or 4 sets of new (clones)/true (seedlings) leaves feed them only water. You can foliar spray them with Jumpstart, use application rate suggested on the bottle or 1/4 strength B-52 (1 mL/liter) until then. You can also add 1/4 strength applications of Piranha, Tarantula or Voodoo Juice, to the water that you will use in the root zone.
Clones seedlings need high levels of moisture in the medium
(80% -85% is good 100% is too much)
They also like a warmer environment in the root zone 70 F 80 F.
Week 1 300 ppm: GMB @ 0.5ml/L of each in a 1-1-1 ratio (1.5 ml in total per liter) + Foliar spray B-52 once per week at the 2ml/L application rate.
Week 2 600 ppm: GMB @ 1.0ml/L of each in a 1-1-1 ratio + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 3 900 ppm: GMB @ 2.0ml/L of Grow, 2.0ml/L Micro and 0.4ml/L Bloom in a 10-10-1 ratio (4.4ml in total per liter) + Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 4 1200 ppm: GMB @ 2.5ml/L of Grow, 2.5ml/L Micro and 0.5ml/L Bloom in a 10-10-1 ratio (5.5ml in total per liter) + Voodoo Juice + Foliar spray B-52.
If it is necessary to veg your plants for a longer period of time then 4 weeks, continue with the 4th week application rates. Apply voodoo juice for up to three week in a row, to properly inoculate the root zone, after which, you can discontinue the application. Also, we recommend growing your plants in veg until they are about 1/3 of their final finish height, since the plants will put on anywhere from 1/2 - 2/3 more vertical growth in the bloom stage. That is, if you want to finish your plants at 6 feet tall, veg until they are 2 foot.
Flower Production Stage
Week 1 1000 ppm: GMB @ 1.82 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio (5.46 ml in total per liter) + Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L
Week 2 1200 ppm: GMB @ 2.27 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio+ Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L + Big Bud @ 2ml/L
Week 3 1400 ppm: GMB @ 2.70 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + Big Bud @ 2ml/L + B52 @ 2ml/L
Week 4 - 1600 ppm: GMB @ 3.33 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + Big Bud @ 2ml/L + B52 @ 2ml/L
Week 5 1400 ppm: GMB @ 2.27 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + B52 @ 2ml/L + Overdrive @ 2ml
Week 6 1200 ppm: GMB @ 1.82 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + B52 @ 2ml/L + Overdrive @ 2ml
Week 7 Flush!
If plant needs longer than 6 weeks of feeding (7 week strain, the 7th week is a flush week), repeat week 4 for each extra week.
Overfeeding
If the very tip of the leaves get yellow, it is an early sign of overfeeding. Reduce the solution strength slightly (100 150 ppm), if not increase slightly.
Deficiencies
If the margins or any other part of the leaves yellows off it is a possible sign of deficiencies. Check pH in medium and reservoir, if the pH is off from the ideal levels lock out conditions may develop. At first symptom of a deficiency apply rule # 1: When in doubt flush them out.
If growing in a medium that takes some time to dry up, allow the medium to dry and feeding them plain pH adjusted water when they are ready, rule #2: Dont apply until its dry. If growing in a re circulating system, find a way to give them only pH adjusted water for the length of a light cycle, a second reservoir just for water may be a simple solution, then it is just a matter of moving the pump over, maintain the regular water pump cycle during the flush.
pH conditions in medium
In Soil/Soiless (Soil or Soiless mixtures that may also contain peat moss but not Coco Coir) adjust the pH to 6.3
In Hydro (It includes products such as Rockwool, Hydroton Rock, and Lava Rock) adjust to 5.6
In Coco Coir adjust the ph to 5.8 6.0. You may want to supplement with SensiCal when growing in coco with a base nutrient that in not specific to growing in coco
Root damage
Another possibility is damage in the root zone, check for the possibility of root rot, or insect larvae as potential causes for root deterioration, brown, mushy, smelly roots are a good indicator of root damage. Hydrogen peroxide is an efficient way to destroy root rot causing bacteria.
Mixing instructions
When mixing your reservoir, always mix the product that has the highest nitrogen content first (the first number on the NPK rating.) This will more often then not, be your base nutrients. Make sure you properly dissolve each product before mixing the next one into your reservoir. After adding everything into the reservoir, allow the solution to sit for at least 1-2 hours. This will allow the pH to stabilize, making it easier to adjust. Once the pH is stabilized, measure it, and adjust according to the medium you are growing in.
When using a re circulating system, you will be dealing with one of two situations, either the reservoir is large enough to feed the plants for a week without the need to be topped up during the week or it is a small reservoir and in order to feed the plants through the week it will require to be topped up.
In case of reservoir that does not need to be topped up.
Add to the reservoir the amount of water that the plants are going to be using for the week, include some extra water to allow for evaporation.
Mix the nutrient solution at 1/6th of the strength that is suggested in the calculator for that week.
Example: If the plants need 1200 ppm for the week, divide 1200 by 6 and mix the reservoir at 200 250 ppm.
Allow the solution to sit long enough to stabilize the pH. Adjust pH
Feed the plants.
Allow the plants to feed on the solution and the pH to rise for 1 1/2 2 days before re adjusting the pH.
In case of reservoir that needs to be topped up with water during the week.
Add to reservoir the amount of water that the plants will use in 3 3 ½ days.
Mix the nutrient solution at the strength that is suggested in the calculator for that week.
Allow the solution to sit long enough to stabilize the pH. Adjust pH
Feed the plants
Allow the plants to feed on the solution for 1 1/2 2 days, top up with water to the original level first before re adjusting the pH, after adding the water allow solution to sit for an hour and re adjust the pH.
If growing in soil adjust the pH 6.3, in coco 5.8 6.0, in hydro 5.6.
When using a re circulating system having the pH rise after you start feeding the plants is a good thing, It means that the plants are up taking nutrient, it is important that it rises the plants up take different nutrients at different pH levels, allow the pH to rise for 1 ½ - 2 days at that point adjust the pH down to 5.6 again
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hyd...alculator_old/
Measurements:
1 gallon = 4 liters (quarts)
1 tsp (teaspoon) = 5 mL
1/2 tsp (teaspoon) = 2.5 mL
1/4 tsp (teaspoon) = 1.25 mL
1 tbsp (tablespoon) = 3 tsp (teaspoon) = 15 mL
We use a 700 ppm/uS/m scale or a 0.7 scale to convert from EC to ppm.
doggyd
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Adcance Nutrients Micro .23%mg, .23% chelated Magnesium/ Grow .70%mg/ Bloom 1% mg, 1% water soluble Mg
I was feeding her week 2 on the schedule without the Foiler Spray or minus out the B52 which I have not used yet!
kevin murphy
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looking like it fillin nicely mate ....
bigjesse1922
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She is looking great, I say keep doing what you're doing!
jesicalorren
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lookin good doggyd hope u hit that hp mark , thats awesome
doggyd
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I know this may be a dumb question but I need a good answer to this! Once I top my plant how long does it take before the new growth take a healthy height? I need too TOP my plant before the last 2 weeks of veg and trying to plan things out! Please Please Help, Will ++REP you for a great answer!