How would you control guns?

lifegoesonbrah · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
pretty easily.

the background check worked very well, it deterred the murderer from gaining access to guns.

Murderers generally don't go to the store, buy a gun under their name, then kill someone with it. The batman shooter did, but unlikely. Besides, you can just buy them off the street, steal them, or create some other death device, such as the bombs he planted.

UncleBuck said:
if people were subject to harsh penalties for not securely locking up their guns around mentally ill people, i bet more people would lock them up securely. lots of people follow the law just for the sake of following the law.

Agreed, I think there should be punishment for a case by case basis when you are negligent with firearms. I just don't think imposing more regulations on the entire population is sensible. Harsher punishment isn't gun regulation, though.

cleverpiggy · Jan 10, 2013

lifegoesonbrah said:
You are absolutely right, I am just curious of how this can possibly be enforced.

It cant be enforced effectively your correct, because crazy people don't follow the same rules as sane folks.

desert dude · Jan 10, 2013

This is all I can find about whether the Lanza guns were secured. Maybe they were, maybe not.

"Friend, classmate describe family A friend of Nancy Lanza, who had done contracting work for her, was last in the home eight months ago and remembers seeing a lock box in the basement where Lanza kept her guns."

lifegoesonbrah · Jan 10, 2013

desert dude said:
This is all I can find about whether the Lanza guns were secured. Maybe they were, maybe not.

"Friend, classmate describe family A friend of Nancy Lanza, who had done contracting work for her, was last in the home eight months ago and remembers seeing a lock box in the basement where Lanza kept her guns."

Irrelevant really, we cannot practically enforce gun security to prevent these incidents anyways.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

lifegoesonbrah said:
Murderers generally don't go to the store, buy a gun under their name, then kill someone with it. The batman shooter did

LOL! doing my work for me i guess. thanks. lanza tried to as well. he was deterred by our common sense gun laws (background checks).

lifegoesonbrah said:
Besides, you can just buy them off the street, steal them

a recluse like lanza would have had a hard time finding someone to buy them off the street. a properly secured gun safe would have done the trick.

lifegoesonbrah said:
or create some other death device, such as the bombs he planted.

people blow themselves up often enough trying to build bombs.

lifegoesonbrah said:
Agreed, I think there should be punishment for a case by case basis when you are negligent with firearms. I just don't think imposing more regulations on the entire population is sensible. Harsher punishment isn't gun regulation, though.

yes it is.

desert dude · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
all the people with CCW in tucson did nothing to stop loughner, he was only stopped when he went to change his 30 round mag.

a 10 round mag would have saved many lives in tucson that day. more guns didn't. FACT.

a secure gun safe. lanza went out to buy his own guns beforehand but didn't because he didn't want to do a background check. his mother left her guns nice and unsecured though.

I recall one person being armed at the Tucson massacre. He was in a store nearby when the shooting started. He came out of the store to see what he could do to help. That armed citizen did not shoot anybody because he did not know who to shoot, i.e. he acted responsibly, unfucking believable, right? He should have just pulled out his assault weapon and started bustin' caps in every ass he saw, amiright?

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

lifegoesonbrah said:
Irrelevant really, we cannot practically enforce gun security to prevent these incidents anyways.

yes we can, and we have.

let me boil your argument down for you: nothing will ever be 100% effective, so lets' do nothing at all.

one starred.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

desert dude said:
I recall one person being armed at the Tucson massacre. He was in a store nearby when the shooting started. He came out of the store to see what he could do to help. That armed citizen did not shoot anybody because he did not know who to shoot, i.e. he acted responsibly, unfucking believable, right? He should have just pulled out his assault weapon and started bustin' caps in every ass he saw, amiright?

more guns didn't help.

would you like some corn flakes to catch those tears, old man?

desert dude · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
yes we can, and we have.

let me boil your argument down for you: nothing will ever be 100% effective, so lets' do nothing at all.

one starred.

Oh, how cute. Regurgitating Biden talking points. Do you have a big toothy smile, and a nervous twitch too?

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

desert dude said:
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a 10 round mag would have saved lives in tucson. FACT.

more guns didn't save lives in tucson. FACT.

the lying, smoldering piece of shit here is the guy who tried to call california a gun free zone and who cites "studies" that i could debunk of the top off my head by saying "luby's massacre".

shut the fuck up already.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

desert dude said:
Oh, how cute. Regurgitating Biden talking points. Do you have a big toothy smile, and a nervous twitch too?

go check the mailbox for your social security check, welfare baby.

desert dude · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
more guns didn't help.

would you like some corn flakes to catch those tears, old man?

Nor did they hurt. Would you like a napkin to wipe that Obiden cum off your chin, leach?

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

desert dude said:
Nor did they hurt. Would you like a napkin to wipe that Obiden cum off your chin, leach?

you know what did hurt though?

high capacity magazines.

anyone who opposes the 10 round mag limit has blood on their hands from that one. loughner was only stopped when he went to load another 33 rounds into his gun. more guns did not help.

desert dude · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
a 10 round mag would have saved lives in tucson. FACT.

more guns didn't save lives in tucson. FACT.

the lying, smoldering piece of shit here is the guy who tried to call california a gun free zone and who cites "studies" that i could debunk of the top off my head by saying "luby's massacre".

shut the fuck up already.

You are clearly clueless about the Luby's cafe shooting. I prefer the testimony of Suzanna Gratia Hupp regarding the Luby's cafe massacre. She was there. Her mother and father were both murdered that day. Watch it for your self, you might learn something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

desert dude said:
You are clearly clueless about the Luby's cafe shooting. I prefer the testimony of Suzanna Gratia Hupp regarding the Luby's cafe massacre. She was there. Her mother and father were both murdered that day. Watch it for your self, you might learn something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

i don't give one quarter of one half of one one hundredth of a shit.

the luby's massacre made a liar out of you and your silly little article that you tried to mouth fart upon us.

you lying smoldering whatever...

desert dude · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
i don't give one quarter of one half of one one hundredth of a shit.

the luby's massacre made a liar out of you and your silly little article that you tried to mouth fart upon us.

you lying smoldering whatever...

Exactly. You never have yet bothered with even a whiff of honesty.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2013

a known liar is accusing me of dishonesty.

is california a gun free zone yet, old man?

lifegoesonbrah · Jan 10, 2013

UncleBuck said:
LOL! doing my work for me i guess. thanks. lanza tried to as well. he was deterred by our common sense gun laws (background checks).

Deterred? He killed a bunch of people.................................

UncleBuck said:
a recluse like lanza would have had a hard time finding someone to buy them off the street. a properly secured gun safe would have done the trick.

How do you enforce people locking their guns up? You still haven't answered any of the questions on how to regulate.

UncleBuck said:
people blow themselves up often enough trying to build bombs.

Sounds safe enough to depend on. Maybe more suicide bombers would be better than people with guns?

UncleBuck said:
yes it is.

No, its punishment after the crime. Regulations prevent things from happening. Maybe I should specify preventative regulations. Im not sure of the exact terminology. amiright?

lifegoesonbrah · Jan 10, 2013

children children focus on the logistics of gun control please.

zambonic · Jan 10, 2013

Saying something is FACT... does not make it a FACT. Please provide PROOF.

UncleBuck said:
a 10 round mag would have saved lives in tucson. FACT

more guns didn't save lives in tucson. FACT.

the lying, smoldering piece of shit here is the guy who tried to call california a gun free zone and who cites "studies" that i could debunk of the top off my head by saying "luby's massacre".

shut the fuck up already.

How would you control guns?

How should we regulate guns?

background checks

Registration

Limiting types of weapons

Limiting magazines

gun free zones

make all dangerous weapons illegal

Limit ammunition

Other

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