Hydroponic Perpetual Grow Community

[Greyskull]

hey loud blunts.. you're using the canna line of goodies.... couple of Q's for you regarding sm90...

do you keep airstones in your res at all?
when you add sm90 to the res, does the rez stay nice and clear & clean, or does it gunk up and get all gross?

mahalos

 

[GypsyBush]

Thanks LB... I appreciate the help...

My res is super duper cool... maybe even too cool... when I fill it fresh, 15 seconds under water and your hand will hurt for over a minute.. it's cold glacier water... really cold... but it does warm up in the room of course...

I use close to 200 gallons of solution in my op, I like big res. because they are more stable, and I do not need to top off... and it stays cooler longer...

I can be gone for a week with no weird fluctuations.. just a steady and slow rise or fall of pH depending on what additive I have in there...

I have never used any pathogen control... I used to use a BLOOM JUICE.. and that was all...

Here recently I have switched to FF... but you say to change it..?

It's no biggie, I can totally put something different in there next week...lol..

But I am curious, you are the first to say something...

 

[bob4eva]

What do you guys think about germinating in paper towels until roots form and then put directly into net pots filled with hydroton clay pebbles. It usually takes about a week before i see roots in paper towels. Any suggestions.

 

[GypsyBush]

What do you guys think about germinating in paper towels until roots form and then put directly into net pots filled with hydroton clay pebbles. It usually takes about a week before i see roots in paper towels. Any suggestions.

I think it would be tricky to keep the seedling in place I imagine...

Those are some big gaps in between the clay balls...

I don't know what you are doing, but for most purposes, rapid rooter plugs are an easy way to sprout seeds for hydro...

Hope this helps...

 

[Greyskull]

the 1"x1" rockwool cubes are easy to use also for sprouting beans....

 

[bob4eva]

the 1"x1" rockwool cubes are easy to use also for sprouting beans....

I put the seeds in 1.5 rockwool cubes, and put the cubes in an empty reservoir(germination chamber....lol) in a dark room. I put on the lid, and left space for air to come in, i have the fan running and no lights. Is this good.

 

[LoudBlunts]

hey loud blunts.. you're using the canna line of goodies.... couple of Q's for you regarding sm90...

do you keep airstones in your res at all?
when you add sm90 to the res, does the rez stay nice and clear & clean, or does it gunk up and get all gross?

mahalos

no air stones at all sir (of course i still have some on deck as i used to be fan, but i shy away from using them now)

air injection, imho introduces spores and all kinda airborne shit into your res causing wild EC and pH fluctuation

when i add the sm90 it does leave traces and such...i know when i pull my sm90 from the closet it pours out whiteish in cold temps... so yea it kinda gunks up a little bit. however i do run magdrive pumps with stock prefilters.... i love em

 

[LoudBlunts]

Thanks LB... I appreciate the help...

My res is super duper cool... maybe even too cool... when I fill it fresh, 15 seconds under water and your hand will hurt for over a minute.. it's cold glacier water... really cold... but it does warm up in the room of course...

I use close to 200 gallons of solution in my op, I like big res. because they are more stable, and I do not need to top off... and it stays cooler longer...

I can be gone for a week with no weird fluctuations.. just a steady and slow rise or fall of pH depending on what additive I have in there...

I have never used any pathogen control... I used to use a BLOOM JUICE.. and that was all...

Here recently I have switched to FF... but you say to change it..?

It's no biggie, I can totally put something different in there next week...lol..

But I am curious, you are the first to say something...

with your super cold temps, you barely need to use any pathogen control. cold temps inhibits growth enough

you switched from what to FF?

i just dont like FF tomato nutes too thick for my liking. The homie FilthyFletch is the only person i know who still uses FF...other than that..its folks who havent used/tried others.

I blv you can unlock full potential finding a good set of nutes.

lights, enviro, food (nutes) make up big time yield (of course strain capabilities as well)

but hell if it aint broke... i guess dont try to fix it... but FF? yuck imho sorry

i say your nute game depends on what you wanna spend. a simple gh3 will take care of you.

if you wanna get fancy, let me know

 

[Greyskull]

thanks LB for the 411

 

[doogleef]

FF nutes do not have enough mg in it, imho. I love the FFOF soil, though. I use FF GrowBig as a veg nute but i have to supplement epsom. As far as the texture it is a lot thinner than the GH Flora series I am using. lol. I'm looking at the new humbolt oneness. I like 1 part base nutes. I'm in the lazy stoner camp.

 

[grandpabear3]

me too.....i wanna buy i big ass jug and be done with it......god damned needy ass plants.

 

[GypsyBush]

Well...

I used to use NSR Greenleaves Bloom & Grow Juices, plus their Boost...

I believe they are full synthetic... and I had great results... but I used them long enough to judge if switching would make a difference...

So I am on the second res of FF...

I would love to find THE nutrients for my op, but I only know enough to pick the pretty packages..lol..

I have seen Humbolt's line .. looks real pretty...lol...

So indulge me...

Knowing what you know...

What would be the ultimate nute regime...??

AND...

Are the enzymes supposed to suppress algae formation on my trays?

I would love to go back to flooding 12x a day, but the algae gets a little nasty... even with the panda covers...

Thanks a lot guys... this is really an area that I have much to improve on...

 

[LoudBlunts]

if you wanna go all out


go with House & Garden

that is my next nute im going to switch to.

probably my primary nute

 

[LoudBlunts]

NOTHING will suppress algae...lol nor mold.

my contact at the water plant has schooled me on this...

you can fight and fight and fight, you can never fully eradicate algae and mold

something to keep your trays at bay would be to get some h2o2, and whip up a say bottle...and spray your res trays every few days whenever you gazing at the plants or something. therefore it doesnt really get mixed in the with nutes and you can still keep it at bay

 

[Greyskull]

what about the GH/Lucas formula folks rave about?
anyone know how that holds up vs canna or h&g?

 

[LoudBlunts]

im using a modified formula of gh3 as we speak right now with hammerhead. (in my aero)

i stick with canna for my coco right now anyway

 

[LoudBlunts]

the modified im using is Rez Dawg's formula of gh3

based on 63 day cycle

day1-14

6mL micro
9mL bloom

day 15-21

6mL micro
9mL bloom
7mL Kool Bloom (however, i dont use this....i use hammerhead pk 9/18 and canna's pk 13/14 for my coco plants)

day 22-28

9mL Bloom

day 29-35

9mL Bloom
7mL Kool-Bloom (again, i dont use this)

day 36-52

9mL Bloom

after that.....flush

 

[doogleef]

what about the GH/Lucas formula folks rave about?
anyone know how that holds up vs canna or h&g?

Lucas/GH is an awesome basic nutrient system. Cheap and easy. Works pretty damn well too. I am adding koolbloom this round by bottle directions just to see the difference.

I am a firm believer in environment over nutrient.
As long as the base nute gives everything the plant needs (including mg) and you can play OPTIONALLY with whatever additives work with your system then go for it. Being forced to but additives to get base nutes pisses me off. PBP is for just that reason imho ... anyway ... rambling... medicated

The factors of light, ventilation, o2 in the roots and Co2 in the air are much bigger factors than the nutes you use.

 

[Return of the Spork]

I admit I didn't research very heavily. I ended up going with AN Sensi 2 Part. Haven't been doing any additives other than hygrozyme. Don't really have much to compare with because I am constantly doing different strains. But once I decide on the few, I really want to optimize.

How does AN rank as far as "base nutes" go. Any known deficiencies?

 

[Greyskull]

I am thinking about giving the GH/lucas formula a try in my 3x3 under the 600.... kind of my "experimental table", if you will.
GH costs soooooo much less than canna & H&G & AN.... and its so "chemmy", too....