just to see what's being done is hilarious. fucking amateurs...
They need rnr to help them out
Hydropothecary Here to Solve Our Problems
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They need rnr to help them out
doingdishes
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i am reading a book called "in the heart of dankness" and the guy goes all over talking to growers, coffee shops and some serious players in the game...I'm reading the chapter right now where one genetic guy says a lot of these grows are not scalable and need to be smaller...maybe that's why these LP's are doing so crappy. they have no idea how to dial in such a huge grow.
that's my 2 cents
that's my 2 cents
oddish
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I know of one who had this intention but never got approved. Been sitting at the 95% mark in the approval process for almost a year now. I saw the diagrams of all the rails they were going to use to mount hydroponics everywhere and it was insanely cool.
oddish
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I talk to a Compassion Club guy who said the exact same thing.
He tells anyone who is starting a grow to start with 4 plants, then 8, then 16, then pause until you are stable, then start expanding by a maximum of 8 plants at a time. Most common failures he sees are overcrowding or inability to keep up with maintenance across the whole room.
CannaReview
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You're not talking about CEN Biotech scam?
CannaReview
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I've been saying this all along but the way the MMPR is NOW set up it would take ages to recoup the start up fees when dealing with MMPR users. I think if you you got in at the begging and kept it small family owned you'd be WAY ahead of everyone.
torontoke
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One lp rep tried to explain it to me as they price their strains based of how they yield and how long they take. So those low yielding sativas are going to be most expensive.
I told him it didnt make sense considering you can grow out as many as you can fit legally it should balance out. If a home grower can grow for $1 a gram in his bedroom closet than how cant a warehouse with a billion plants buying everything in bulk at wholesale be even cheaper?
Lps like this one should be the very reason the mmpr is terminated.
I told him it didnt make sense considering you can grow out as many as you can fit legally it should balance out. If a home grower can grow for $1 a gram in his bedroom closet than how cant a warehouse with a billion plants buying everything in bulk at wholesale be even cheaper?
Lps like this one should be the very reason the mmpr is terminated.
doingdishes
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they tried to be too big too soon...and the patients get to suffer until they get it right.
doing away with homegrows was a very bad move! hurt a lot of us in many ways
doing away with homegrows was a very bad move! hurt a lot of us in many ways
torontoke
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Exactly.
They expect to make the millions back in the first year instead of having a million happy patients that actually order.
At their current rates no true patient could afford their full script so they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Thats how they can claim to never have supply issues cus no one will fukin order from them so they will be fully stocked at all times
torontoke
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Plus all these lps go from maybe having small 10 plant home grows to suddenly having a massive warehouse to grow and no clue how to do it.
Any of you ever been involved in a massive grow like this its not easy.
Alot of the work gets forgotten about during their dreams of mansions and million dollar portfolios.
Growing large quantities of quality meds is far more difficult than people realize.
The list of lps may keep growing but if no one clues in to actually catering to low strain prices we will see them all fold up soon one after the other.
Any of you ever been involved in a massive grow like this its not easy.
Alot of the work gets forgotten about during their dreams of mansions and million dollar portfolios.
Growing large quantities of quality meds is far more difficult than people realize.
The list of lps may keep growing but if no one clues in to actually catering to low strain prices we will see them all fold up soon one after the other.
TheDizzyBizzy
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Yes. Torontoke knows the time. Doesn't mater if there are 4 or 40, none of them can grow. They've been plagued by mouldy recalls, kickback corruption, lack of product, internal scandals. The only LP who ever sold any good weed was Tilray in the beginning because they bought it off the real growers on Vancouver Island. Once Health Canada put a stop to that, they ran out of product. The MMPR was created to crush medical marijuana, not grow it. Harper is not as dumb as some think. He just got the 'weed' investors to dump hundreds and hundreds of millions (maybe even billions) into a market designed to fail. Guess what? That is money the pro marijuana people can't spend on lobbying for legalization. So Harper now gets to use the MMPR as a choke point to squeeze us all out. First, they'll come for the 'bad' home grows under the MMAR, then dispensaries, and then they'll even shut down the LP's. Then, no more weed in Canada! Divide and Conquer!
The Hippy
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Wrong...buy none...make em fail faster...buying any is just propping them up
doingdishes
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but if they actually were FOR the patient...that would be different. right now, they all suck!
reasonable affordable prices...good clean product...but they don't do that. it's just another industry to them & they don't get that...this is medicine and not a bag of chips
The Hippy
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Your just a wallet in their pocket in their minds...business and that's it.
torontoke
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If they were smart it should be $1-2 a gram tops
Most patients could afford that for good quality meds.
If top shelf meds were available for those prices no one would bother growing. That would have been the easiest way to kill the home growers.
But instead they decide to sell shit product for up to double black market prices.
And then they act surprised that people would rather try to provide for themselves.
Most patients could afford that for good quality meds.
If top shelf meds were available for those prices no one would bother growing. That would have been the easiest way to kill the home growers.
But instead they decide to sell shit product for up to double black market prices.
And then they act surprised that people would rather try to provide for themselves.
CannaReview
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Well the answer is simple, look who is running these companies. Its the who' s how of the MBA CEO world. The minute there is a "corporate" like structure out of tune with the cannabis culture its all over. They'll get the people who are afraid of legal consequences of not having legal weed problem is they already hit the peak for now. The majority of people don't care.
doingdishes
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right but if patients were "people" to them, they might get some love instead of hate
i have to stop here...I am almost convincing myself....Lp's won't do what I'm describing so it's really a moot point...or if you're a friends fan..the point is "moo"-a cows opinion
OG_pharma
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if you run the numbers is pretty bleak for LP's... they spend $10-20 million by the time they get a license and then have basically nobody to sell too.. look at the patient numbers.. Sure there is exponential growth in new patients signing up monthly, but the numbers are very low. There NO lp's that are turning any profit yet... sure one day they will when all the BS gets weeded out like any new industry but for now. LP's are strugling with a $9/g average. if it was $2-4/g some would have to close the doors...
