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lilbry

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Yeah I always but all my fitting local so I can stand in the store for an hour and piece everything together and lay it all out to make sure I get everything I need.
The plumbing section in lowes is the best part of the store imo LOL.
Between sprinkler stuff and all the pvc/abs we have so many options it's like grown up legos
Thanks for the info. I'm digging looking through your thread. Some great info. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
 

lilbry

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Unless you're going to just use PVC for the entirety of the waterfall manifold,you wouldn't need the hydro tubing. Just be sure to use 3/4 for the whole manifold besides where it tees off to both totes where you'll use a reducing adapter/insert to go to 1/2" for those 2 small lengths of pipe.
Very cool. Picked up some things from Lowes. I think I am just going to do PVC for the entire waterfall manifold. Was wondering why the reduction from 3/4 to 1/2 pvc where it T's off into the two totes. Does it have to do with proper waterfall pressure and flow? Thanks again for all the info and taking the time to share our knowledge. Hope you are enjoying 4-20
 

Airwalker16

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Very cool. Picked up some things from Lowes. I think I am just going to do PVC for the entire waterfall manifold. Was wondering why the reduction from 3/4 to 1/2 pvc where it T's off into the two totes. Does it have to do with proper waterfall pressure and flow? Thanks again for all the info and taking the time to share our knowledge. Hope you are enjoying 4-20
Yes. It's really important if you want even pressure. On 2 totes it might not matter as much. ,but a build like this threads where there's 8 5 gallon buckets, it's necessary.
 

lilbry

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Yes. It's really important if you want even pressure. On 2 totes it might not matter as much. ,but a build like this threads where there's 8 5 gallon buckets, it's necessary.
Ok. Cool. So the only 3/4in pvc is the manifold down the middle connected to the main res/inline pump; the the other two pvc pieces off the T are 1/2in and I fit/slip them into the T with a reducer or bushing? As the 1/2in pvc’s enter their tote and I elbow them down for the waterfall, is there a specific fitting on the end that patterns the water flow? I think I might have seen something like this in one of Frags pics
 

Airwalker16

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Ok. Cool. So the only 3/4in pvc is the manifold down the middle connected to the main res/inline pump; the the other two pvc pieces off the T are 1/2in and I fit/slip them into the T with a reducer or bushing? As the 1/2in pvc’s enter their tote and I elbow them down for the waterfall, is there a specific fitting on the end that patterns the water flow? I think I might have seen something like this in one of Frags pics
Yes what you can do is use an elbow with a male threaded end on one side and normal slip fitting on the other. You use a thread end cap with 4 holes drilled in it. He drilled them all at a 45° angle each one shooting a different direction. So like if you were to hold the drill at a 45 with the drill towards you, you'd just spin the cap 90° each hole while keeping the drill stationary.
 

clay32

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@Airwalker16
sorry for takeing so long with the pics but here they are... take it easy on me. the resond why i have the down feed like this is becease. i started out with short roots. so i was going to drill a hole about three inches to one side and move the whole pump and top part over 3 or 4 inches. to make the waterfall. but i started a 12hr shift job. and everything got away from me..
 

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clay32

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ill add some more detail.
lights 2 1000w de
nutes 3 part masterblend with 1 table spoon of peroxide per gal
ph down homemade with with battery acid from auto store... cant tell ya how much you can save going this way... take one gal of water, take one cup out, add one cup battery acid.
i know im useing the green buckets. next grow getting the black ones from home depot. sence there have em in stock now
i used 2inch male and female adapters on the buckets... tips... pick up a back of orings.. and make sure you use the orings on the inside so they dont twist up on you. and get the right size bit. i belive i used 2" 5/16 whole saw.. worked great you had to thread the male end in. tightend up with a pipe rench..
im sure im forgeting something. but thanks again airwalker... ive grown in soil and straight perlite in hempy buckets and single dwc. but this for me is the easiest way to go
 

Airwalker16

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ill add some more detail.
lights 2 1000w de
nutes 3 part masterblend with 1 table spoon of peroxide per gal
ph down homemade with with battery acid from auto store... cant tell ya how much you can save going this way... take one gal of water, take one cup out, add one cup battery acid.
i know im useing the green buckets. next grow getting the black ones from home depot. sence there have em in stock now
i used 2inch male and female adapters on the buckets... tips... pick up a back of orings.. and make sure you use the orings on the inside so they dont twist up on you. and get the right size bit. i belive i used 2" 5/16 whole saw.. worked great you had to thread the male end in. tightend up with a pipe rench..
im sure im forgeting something. but thanks again airwalker... ive grown in soil and straight perlite in hempy buckets and single dwc. but this for me is the easiest way to go
Don't use battery acid....
 

Airwalker16

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@Airwalker16
sorry for takeing so long with the pics but here they are... take it easy on me. the resond why i have the down feed like this is becease. i started out with short roots. so i was going to drill a hole about three inches to one side and move the whole pump and top part over 3 or 4 inches. to make the waterfall. but i started a 12hr shift job. and everything got away from me..
Your roots are all the way in to the res. You need to upgrade to totes if you're gonna let your girls get that large, my guy.
It looks great though. I sure do hate that yellow hue of HPS. Haha.
So you're saying the waterfalls are feeding into the netpot like that because, why?
 

Airwalker16

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ill add some more detail.
lights 2 1000w de
nutes 3 part masterblend with 1 table spoon of peroxide per gal
ph down homemade with with battery acid from auto store... cant tell ya how much you can save going this way... take one gal of water, take one cup out, add one cup battery acid.
i know im useing the green buckets. next grow getting the black ones from home depot. sence there have em in stock now
i used 2inch male and female adapters on the buckets... tips... pick up a back of orings.. and make sure you use the orings on the inside so they dont twist up on you. and get the right size bit. i belive i used 2" 5/16 whole saw.. worked great you had to thread the male end in. tightend up with a pipe rench..
im sure im forgeting something. but thanks again airwalker... ive grown in soil and straight perlite in hempy buckets and single dwc. but this for me is the easiest way to go
2-5/16" Hole saw you say? I bet that wasn't one you had in your set and had to get separately Huh? Haha
 

Airwalker16

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@Airwalker16
sorry for takeing so long with the pics but here they are... take it easy on me. the resond why i have the down feed like this is becease. i started out with short roots. so i was going to drill a hole about three inches to one side and move the whole pump and top part over 3 or 4 inches. to make the waterfall. but i started a 12hr shift job. and everything got away from me..
BTW, very happy to hear, even though it's killing ya, that you're lucky enough to still be working at all, let alone 12hr shifts. So congrats.
 

Airwalker16

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yep that whole saw ran me ummmm right around 35 bucks... why not use battery acid?
It's Hole Saw homie. Haha. "Whole" is very different from "Hole."
I'm trying to remember who it was that talked about why you should not use battery acid. But I can't remember. Let me do a search real quick.
 

lilbry

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It's Hole Saw homie. Haha. "Whole" is very different from "Hole."
I'm trying to remember who it was that talked about why you should not use battery acid. But I can't remember. Let me do a search real quick.
Jorge Cervantes in the book "Medical Grower's Bible" says to not use battery acid...I remember reading a part about it. Trying to find it now..not sure though
 

Gond00s

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im using 85% phos acid diluted down to around 60 idk about battery acid doe?
It's Hole Saw homie. Haha. "Whole" is very different from "Hole."
I'm trying to remember who it was that talked about why you should not use battery acid. But I can't remember. Let me do a search real quick.
 

Teag

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A question I've always had is if your using something like a halo to water your coco. Then when the jets of water hit the top of coco(breaking surface tension and adding DO), wouldn't that add all the Dissolved Oxygen one would ever need?
 

Airwalker16

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A question I've always had is if your using something like a halo to water your coco. Then when the jets of water hit the top of coco(breaking surface tension and adding DO), wouldn't that add all the Dissolved Oxygen one would ever need?
DO is only important in RDwC when roots are submerged constantly.
 
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