I have defoliated my plants in the hope to increase my yeild :)

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indicat33

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Seriously there not one grower on this site that thinks this is a good ideal ?
The Only time it is a good idea to do that is if the fan leaves are shading bud sites, and even then defoliation should be minimal. How is the plant supposed to photosynthesize if you remove the leaves? Her is our girl, fan Leaves and all. Used a single 67w cfl, 12/12 from seed ;-)_~
 

Popcorn900

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This is real simple people, if you do not agree with what we do to our plants than fuck off. Do not come here and start wars over shit that has nothing to do with you at all. Are they your fucking plants? save your ill informed advice for noobs. Leave us be to do as we wish. We smoke great bud while you smoke nothing now fuck off.

Sorry to the OP but fuck these trolls they got nothing better to do ? so they come here and try to look important.
 

neo12345

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This is like explaining the theory of gravity to someone and them understanding it, and then they ask so how come we don't all just float away into space!

The deniers keep saying you need leaves for the plants to grow and produce buds, but they can't seem to grasp the concept that when you defoliate the plant the leaves grow back again but you get twice as many! The plants grow back thicker and bushier after defoliation!

Let me try to explain the technique in simple terms:

1. You veg the plant until it's 6-8 inches tall and has 6-7 sets of leaves, you then defoliate the plant. The plant is shocked by losing these leaves and thinks right I need more leaves, so it starts growing lots of leaves back again. It does this fairly quickly as the root mass is much bigger than the plant above ground, so you get a much bushier plant with more leaves on.

2. You allow that plant to veg for 2 more weeks in which time it will have grown twice the amount of leaves back again, then you defoliate again. The plant isn't as shocked by it now as it's happened before and it knows what to do!

3. You then veg for another 2 weeks allowing the plant to grow back with twice as many leaves, by which time your plant will be seriously bushy!

4. You then flip to 12/12.

5. After approx 21 days from the day you flipped you defoliate again, your plant does not get shock this time because the plant is used to having it's leaves stripped (important part of defoliation) and just concentrates on producing buds. The lower buds are benefiting from all of the extra light because there are no leaves shading them and grow into usable buds instead of the stuff we normally throw away. This is where the extra yield of usable/smokeable buds comes from!!

You get exactly the same as you did before from the top of the plant, yet the middle and lower buds are now much bigger.

Is it really that hard to comprehend??
 

noham

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This is real simple people, if you do not agree with what we do to our plants than fuck off. Do not come here and start wars over shit that has nothing to do with you at all. Are they your fucking plants? save your ill informed advice for noobs. Leave us be to do as we wish. We smoke great bud while you smoke nothing now fuck off.

Sorry to the OP but fuck these trolls they got nothing better to do ? so they come here and try to look important.
True. I have never done than that to my plants intentionally, but I have seen how lush plants become after some natural defoliation.
Also, how do they even expect to have an actual argument when these people actually did the procedure, and may have had good results? I can't think of a situation in which I would do the procedure, fail, and then come on here bragging about how good harvest I've just had.

BTW. "You just killed your plants you dumb bastard" before the OP posted awesome results, shows the credibility of some members here.
 

TryN

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Great job!!! I have to admit when I saw the first plant ... I wanted to cry!! Enjoy!!!:weed:
 

TryN

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This is like explaining the theory of gravity to someone and them understanding it, and then they ask so how come we don't all just float away into space!

The deniers keep saying you need leaves for the plants to grow and produce buds, but they can't seem to grasp the concept that when you defoliate the plant the leaves grow back again but you get twice as many! The plants grow back thicker and bushier after defoliation!

Let me try to explain the technique in simple terms:

1. You veg the plant until it's 6-8 inches tall and has 6-7 sets of leaves, you then defoliate the plant. The plant is shocked by losing these leaves and thinks right I need more leaves, so it starts growing lots of leaves back again. It does this fairly quickly as the root mass is much bigger than the plant above ground, so you get a much bushier plant with more leaves on.

2. You allow that plant to veg for 2 more weeks in which time it will have grown twice the amount of leaves back again, then you defoliate again. The plant isn't as shocked by it now as it's happened before and it knows what to do!

3. You then veg for another 2 weeks allowing the plant to grow back with twice as many leaves, by which time your plant will be seriously bushy!

4. You then flip to 12/12.

5. After approx 21 days from the day you flipped you defoliate again, your plant does not get shock this time because the plant is used to having it's leaves stripped (important part of defoliation) and just concentrates on producing buds. The lower buds are benefiting from all of the extra light because there are no leaves shading them and grow into usable buds instead of the stuff we normally throw away. This is where the extra yield of usable/smokeable buds comes from!!

You get exactly the same as you did before from the top of the plant, yet the middle and lower buds are now much bigger.

Is it really that hard to comprehend??
Interesting. Still, as a new grower, kind of scary to do. But what you said makes sense.
 

brimck325

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i can only wonder the bashing the first guy that suggested 12/12 got. mouth shut n eyes open....grow on, please!
 

charface

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This is like explaining the theory of gravity to someone and them understanding it, and then they ask so how come we don't all just float away into space!

The deniers keep saying you need leaves for the plants to grow and produce buds, but they can't seem to grasp the concept that when you defoliate the plant the leaves grow back again but you get twice as many! The plants grow back thicker and bushier after defoliation!

Let me try to explain the technique in simple terms:

1. You veg the plant until it's 6-8 inches tall and has 6-7 sets of leaves, you then defoliate the plant. The plant is shocked by losing these leaves and thinks right I need more leaves, so it starts growing lots of leaves back again. It does this fairly quickly as the root mass is much bigger than the plant above ground, so you get a much bushier plant with more leaves on.

2. You allow that plant to veg for 2 more weeks in which time it will have grown twice the amount of leaves back again, then you defoliate again. The plant isn't as shocked by it now as it's happened before and it knows what to do!

3. You then veg for another 2 weeks allowing the plant to grow back with twice as many leaves, by which time your plant will be seriously bushy!

4. You then flip to 12/12.

5. After approx 21 days from the day you flipped you defoliate again, your plant does not get shock this time because the plant is used to having it's leaves stripped (important part of defoliation) and just concentrates on producing buds. The lower buds are benefiting from all of the extra light because there are no leaves shading them and grow into usable buds instead of the stuff we normally throw away. This is where the extra yield of usable/smokeable buds comes from!!

You get exactly the same as you did before from the top of the plant, yet the middle and lower buds are now much bigger.

Is it really that hard to comprehend??
At least that was easy enought to digest
that anyone could try it. :thumbup:
 

noham

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i can only wonder the bashing the first guy that suggested 12/12 got. mouth shut n eyes open....grow on, please!
Imagine the first sexual intercourse. Like, who had "insert penis here" carved on their skin and how did they found it? Possibly trial and error, but that must have been an interesting experiment.
 

Popcorn900

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What happens in nature when a plant gets eaten or stepped on or whatever? it grows more leaves and it is stronger and better than before. Same theory with defoliation, you strip the fans to force the plant to protect itself the result is with no fans the plant production will go straight to what is left, the buds. People that supercrop know this well. Defoliation is just the extreme version of supercropping. Every grower knows that we aim to grow bud not leaf. Is it so hard to understand how a plant grows? It boggles the mind to see such ignorance at this site.
 

neo12345

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Interesting. Still, as a new grower, kind of scary to do. But what you said makes sense.
It's no more scary that chopping the top of your growing tip off and watching twice as many grow back, or deliberately snapping the stem of an otherwise healthy plant! Or the snipping off a branch and putting some magic voodoo powder on the cut and it grows roots from the bottom!!

Generally most people who are against this technique have either never tried it, or have tried it and got it wrong. I've seen people that have just gone and defoliated whilst the plant is flowering then wonder why it stunts the growth and extends the flowering time.

The important thing is to get the plant used to being defoliated which you do whilst vegging, which people don't do and they fail.

The technique works well with other techniques like LST and scrogging, because of the light penetration.
 

charface

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so is the only purpose of the first defoliations to prep it for the final one or does it also increase bud sights?
 

charface

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It also makes be wonder if this decreases
vertical growth and strengthens the plant to support that weight.
 

neo12345

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so is the only purpose of the first defoliations to prep it for the final one or does it also increase bud sights?
Yes that's correct it prepares the plant and gets it used to being defoliated, the budsites are still the same amount but you get a better return from them.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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i saw a guy who defoliates his plants like this and pulls amazing yields still but he uses some special supplement that can only be found by extracting the correct dna sequence from the 27yr old bull semen located at the deepest point of your mothers snatch.
otflmfao!!!!!!!!!!! At this post and the fact folks still think by doing this they increase bud sites and increases yield.
 
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