Doer
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In Prague it is the opposite. Don't show unless you need it, or pay a heavy fine for brandishing.
I invited the police in and gave them a tour, seriously
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Doer
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Well, they are not anything but adversaries in an adversarial situation, in an adversarial LAW run society. They are not advocates for peace. They are violence with a badge.They are oily lies to see if you can incriminate yourself. They are trained observers that catalog your garage for practice if the door is up.
stickk, brother, you need to read up on the culture of Cops, the black glove stage, all that. I know cops. I have heard them calmly talk of how to use a sap. It does not take much to have these guys pop you, a little sass is all. It has happened to me, too. There is Lots of stuff to read, also, and I have availed myself. Watch some Cop shows, the "reality" ones. Just listen to what these Cops say to the camera, bragging they just got the Confession, by acting like his friend.
Not only are they criminals with Badges, they all use criminal psychology tools to to make you think they are your Advocate. But, I will tell you this, they know the limit, if you do. And when they say, "Let's take this inside, you don't want your neighbors watching." That is when I step out, and lock my door. You do not have to say a word or give an answer. Perform an action. It is never a conversation, it is always a confrontation, with a syrupy cover.
Sometimes I play the pitiful wounded dog or whatever the situation calls for, but they have no right to be inside. And you don't owe them a reason or an explanation. Just don't be aggressive. Don't say much.
And this also is true. You can stand up, look them in the eye, risk the gut shot with leaded glove, and silently trumped their game as a citizen and they will respect you for that. They have no choice. IAC< they are looking for 1) fear 2) nervous excess cooperation.
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ttystikk
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If that's your game, then the end result is fascism.
Doer
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You have no idea what fascism is or how to get there.
You don't like to be disagreed with. This is no game. It is self rule. I gave examples and my experience. You only come with idealism and insults. Just call it a game.
For you it is a joke.
Doer
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Why not tell us what your experiences are?
ttystikk
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That would be the precise reason I started this thread.
Doer
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Do you really think it is worse than before?
Before Miranda, the cops had every right, to go into your home and wait for you to return.
Ever watch Dragnet. No. Too young. And they do not show that one in Syndication.
Do you know why? Big actors, acting like legal Fascists. You could find out about the history of the USA cop culture.
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a senile fungus
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I'd be honored if you'd give me some insight in the up and coming months on a couple of plans that I'd like to bring to fruition.
I don't know if you remember, but I'm fairly local to you, and could totally use your experience.
Do you PM? Would you mind if I sent you a message?
Doer
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I would love to see a pictorial on that.
Doer
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No laws cover that and in Self rule, you don't need to follow law if you don't get caught.
(There is not separate law for breaking the law, like in some countries.)
Yet, the ways to get caught are numerous, even if you own your home. Some vendors are just too God struck, not to call the cops on "funny smell."
That's how my brother got busted in an apt. The pest control guy in the attic "smelled something funny" over his apt. This was back in the 70s long before we knew anything about odor control.
Doer
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Oh Colorado. It is legal there. You are already registered. And I believe you have to stand for inspection, right?
Texas, still a Felony. NY, and FL ditto. When those change that is the most progress we need. Already have CA. And those big 4 made it, not legal.
But, in the days of what, 32 States with Compassion, the big 3 still hold out. We know what the beef is in Texas. Mexican pot. But, did you know NY and FL had the beef with Jamaica? And did you know that, CA went along only because it was a package deal that included Opium. That's why CA has Compassion for Ganja, now.
It was never really their beef.
Doer
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I guess "more than 12" over-rode your filters. !!! Wow. So, in retrospect, is there any way you could have controlled the smell?
Smell brings the little stupid ones to steal.
So, Ty, I would have been nice in your situation. I am always nice but I know what their job is and make them do it by my behavior. Adversarial is not the same as confrontational.
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ttystikk
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Don't blame the filter or the fan, they were purchased as a matched set and operate fine.
Instead, blame my dumb ass for having the trim room someplace where the smell doesn't make to the filter in the first place.
I still think I did the right thing with the police, in this city and in my specific situation. They're in a tough position between pot advocates who are willing to sue for their right to grow without restriction- and the public at large, many of whom fear and hate pot, growers and heads alike and want to see it stopped at any cost... even to our collective civil liberties.
I understand your point of view, and in your part of the country I think your position makes more sense than mine would. That's why I haven't suggested that anyone follow my lead- I realize I'm way out front on this.
This thread is about the choices I made and their consequences. As of this moment, none of us knows what the outcome will be.
Doer
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But, you registered. So, as I understand it, you signed up for inspection. Am I wrong?
I can't say how many times I've risked the gut shot, to step out of my car, and lock the door.
I have been assaulted doing that, but too late. I would rather be roughed up. I could not let him stick his head in.
They can ask you to stay in the car, they can suggest it, but they cannot order you to. And if they do, I will not obey. If the door is locked, they have no probable cause to even call for a dog.
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ttystikk
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The mood towards police is very different here. The patrol cops wear cameras, the detective did not. They brought a female officer because my sister and her girlfriend stopped by for a visit.
Everyone here understands the new and experimental nature of the legal situation- and frankly, most cops here don't want to hassle the weed kids- it takes time away from dealing with heroin and methamphetamine abusers and their crime sprees.
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so the cops were there and your sister and friend stopped by..they called to bring a female out?
how long were they there?
you know i love you tty
but didn't you say that you carbscrub wasn't working properly when you purchased?>>>>trim room?i think i missed something.
ttystikk
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Yes under the municipal code because it's an ordinance violation.
There are a lot of gray areas under which the police have discretion to make people's lives harder if they feel the need. I'm making it as easy as possible for them to treat me with respect.
panhead
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I really want to make one too . Im gonna do my best to get it done starting this spring , its time for all new equipment anyways so when im setting up the new table i might as well do it then , ive got about 25% of the pics needed allready .
Ima do my best to get er done .
panhead
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No judge is supposed to issue a warrant based on smell/odor alone if the building in question is occupied by a legal card holder according to Michigan law .