ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

Sour Diesel ice wax. Give thanks for great hash strains like Sour D.
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hey prof rize i need a bit of a recap: i know that fresh frozen trim is ideal, but i simply didn't have the freezer space this time around so i had to dry it all.
what should i do differently with dry trim?
 
mellokitty said:
hey prof rize i need a bit of a recap: i know that fresh frozen trim is ideal, but i simply didn't have the freezer space this time around so i had to dry it all.
what should i do differently with dry trim?
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I use dry trim sometimes. You want to let it soak in the ice water for a good 20 to 30 minutes to let the trim rehydrate. This reduces the plant matter contamination in the extract. Also, since its dry you want to handle the trim as gently as possible to keep the broken plant matter to a minimum. This starts at the trim table and holds true until the end of extraction. Using fresh (not prefrozen) trim also has given me great results. We call it a living plant extraction since the trichomes are extracted minutes after the plant is harvested.
 
thank you!
hopefully by the next time around i have more space in the deepfreeze. i've been preserving like crazy and it's kinda stuffed to the gills right now.

another thing:
the test runs i've been running are, well, the 73 is like wetted kief none of them are melty.
i'm wondering what factors i should be considering here? i took the shake from my medibles stash so it's 6 months to a year old, it's dry, i let it sit for 1/2 hr before i ran it in the payload washer for 20 min, i didn't overload the workbag.
i did one batch where i drained it right away, and one where i let it sit for about 15min after mixing, i'm not entirely sure there's much difference between the 2, if at all......

it seems like every time i try to use dry shake for bubble i run into problems. what am i doing wrong? <--whine
 
mellokitty said:
thank you!
hopefully by the next time around i have more space in the deepfreeze. i've been preserving like crazy and it's kinda stuffed to the gills right now.

another thing:
the test runs i've been running are, well, the 73 is like wetted kief none of them are melty.
i'm wondering what factors i should be considering here? i took the shake from my medibles stash so it's 6 months to a year old, it's dry, i let it sit for 1/2 hr before i ran it in the payload washer for 20 min, i didn't overload the workbag.
i did one batch where i drained it right away, and one where i let it sit for about 15min after mixing, i'm not entirely sure there's much difference between the 2, if at all......

it seems like every time i try to use dry shake for bubble i run into problems. what am i doing wrong? <--whine
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yeah, old trim makes dry non-melty hash usually. sounds like it is the material. My best hash comes from fresh buds. Melt is mostly determined by strain and how well the plant was grown. Most indicas do not make melty hash. Sour makes great hash, most sativas do, although they yield way less. And pulling early ruins the hash melt and yield. Mixing varieties also throws off melt. What are you working with? I've updated just about every step of my hash tech since I made the video and this thread.

Updates include:
using more bags: 220 (work), 220, 190, 160, 120, 73, 45
using no ice in the work bag (for machines)
using all RO water
using (chlorine free) paper towels instead of cloth to wick out the water after collection
 
right now i have some of a friend's tall kush trim (dry, about a month old) and my own og kush trim (dry, just bagged a couple days ago).
i'll probably be experimenting with it in the next couple days here.

for bags, i have a 4 bagger (5 gals).
"pur" filtered water.

other than that, i'm going to have to pickle some fish before next harvest to make room in the deepfreeze :lol:

are you "let it settle before you drain" (if so, how long?) or "drain right away"?
 
mellokitty said:
right now i have some of a friend's tall kush trim (dry, about a month old) and my own og kush trim (dry, just bagged a couple days ago).
i'll probably be experimenting with it in the next couple days here.

for bags, i have a 4 bagger (5 gals).
"pur" filtered water.

other than that, i'm going to have to pickle some fish before next harvest to make room in the deepfreeze :lol:

are you "let it settle before you drain" (if so, how long?) or "drain right away"?
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I drain right away, then rinse the remaining trichs down, off the ice.

Can't you smoke the fish? I'll bet you are well skilled in smoking :)

post edit:
Pur filtered is okay, but that doesn't remove the dissolved solids like RO. Maybe I'm just a purrrrrfectionist.
 
That Sour D Ice Wax looks OFF THE FUCKIN CHAIN Matt!!!
I have to say that I've been on here for a while now, and seen this one and that one show pics of hash or whatever, but u are the fuckin' King man!!!
Thanks for being so generous w/ your time and knowledge!




*Edit*
And on a side, totally immature note; "I bet you are well skilled in smoking":o:shock: :hump: lmao


*2nd Edit* I felt like that might not be appreciated ^^^ so I found the sound clip of what I thought of when I first read that "I bet you are well skilled in smoking" and this is in no way any kind of insult to mello kitty (just so we all know) but anyway here it is:
See you in hell, cock smoker!
Mostly cause I'm baked and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is one of my all time faves! lol
 
fwiw, i'm "skilled at smoking" a lot of things -- fish, joints, cocks ('cuz all girls smoke roosters, right?) :lol:

alas, i don't have a smoker OR a defunct bbq out of which to jury-rig one.... but i do make some killer gravlax (swedish brined salmon).
/threadjack

next trim is getting frozen straight away, maybe if i have the energy after the next trim i'll try out your fresh unfrozen method too.... mmmm.....
 
mellokitty said:
fwiw, i'm "skilled at smoking" a lot of things -- fish, joints, cocks ('cuz all girls smoke roosters, right?) :lol:

alas, i don't have a smoker OR a defunct bbq out of which to jury-rig one.... but i do make some killer gravlax (swedish brined salmon).
/threadjack

next trim is getting frozen straight away, maybe if i have the energy after the next trim i'll try out your fresh unfrozen method too.... mmmm.....
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God that post turned me on! She even made me feel like "threadjack" had a Whole new meaning!!! I'm just a big ol' perv aren't I? (*ain't we all tho?*lol)
 
Very informative article professor! It's funny that the article says most hash makers stay away from 25 micron...2 and a half hours of draining and now I know why :)
 
Bird Gymnastics said:
Very informative article professor! It's funny that the article says most hash makers stay away from 25 micron...2 and a half hours of draining and now I know why :)
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Before you run the last 25 bag, do a gumby settling out and siphon off most of the water
 
Bynk said:
Before you run the last 25 bag, do a gumby settling out and siphon off most of the water
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I don't know what a "gumby settling out" is, but I am googling now. Usually I use 220 (trash), 120 and 45. But lately the 73 and 45 have been working wonders. Its just perplexing to me that the 73 always seems to come out more blonde then the 45. Can you explain Matt?
 
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