I for one can thank Bad Karma for helping me out with LEDS. I ended up going with Hans 80 watt panels. He even referred me to another Hans user because he said the other member had more experience with them. ASK POLITELY, TREAT EACH OTHER BETTER. This is embarrassing! This thread helped me. Now it is just trash talk back and forth. COME ON GUYS,I AM A NEWBY AND EVEN I CAN TAKE ADVICE AND TURN IT TO BUD! Read, learn, then use it to the benefit of yourself and others. My son told me that, he is in 4th grade
I'm glad to hear that the Hans panel worked out for you, sir.
You, and your son, are a couple of smarties and I'm glad they're folks like you two in the world.
You offer up some wise words for the forum, but sadly, those who are causing the problems will ignore them.
They're making trouble on purpose, trying to make our LED sanctuary less attractive to those searching for advise.
That way, other forums (that are censored to never speak ill of the sponsors), will seem more harmonious and attractive.
A member named Hgrow was recently outed as a Chinese factory rep posing as an ordinary member (his deteriorating grasp of English was his undoing).
He started off nice enough, but then started putting down peoples lights, and began pushing cheap alternatives.
We have no problem with company reps joining the forums, but instead of admitting who they are, they always try to start off by bullshitting that they're ordinary members.
It leaves a real bad taste in peoples mouth, which leads to little trust, and poor sales.
Anyways, hopefully this flurry of trolls will pass soon enough, and we can get back to our regular growing and showing
