I'm going to using QB's. Does anyone here supplement veg with fluorescent lights?

dazed_spirit · Jan 22, 2020

I'm going to be purchasing HLG 550 v2 r-specs and I know they dip into the deep red spectrum for flowering but they don't seem to have a whole lotta blue. Do you think it would be overkill to get a cpl fluorescent bulbs for the veg stage?
If you think this it is beneficial, do you have any suggestions for supplemental blue lights? Ya know the kind that produce the 4500-5000 Kelvin needed to tighten up nodal spacing?

link to QB i will be using

HLG-550 V2 Rspec CSA, ETL, UL certified

High Efficiency Commercial Indoor Horticulture LED grow light designed to replace a single-ended 1000watt HID with just 490 Watts. 1257 PPF @ 2.6PPF/W. Full-spectrum. Reliable passive-cooled design. Powered by Samsung LM301B LED and Osram SSL 660nm

www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca

NevadaBudz · Jan 25, 2020

dazed_spirit said:
I'm going to be purchasing HLG 550 v2 r-specs and I know they dip into the deep red spectrum for flowering but they don't seem to have a whole lotta blue. Do you think it would be overkill to get a cpl fluorescent bulbs for the veg stage?
If you think this it is beneficial, do you have any suggestions for supplemental blue lights? Ya know the kind that produce the 4500-5000 Kelvin needed to tighten up nodal spacing?

link to QB i will be using

HLG-550 V2 Rspec CSA, ETL, UL certified

High Efficiency Commercial Indoor Horticulture LED grow light designed to replace a single-ended 1000watt HID with just 490 Watts. 1257 PPF @ 2.6PPF/W. Full-spectrum. Reliable passive-cooled design. Powered by Samsung LM301B LED and Osram SSL 660nm

www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca

NevadaBudz · Jan 25, 2020

Im a greenhorn here but yes you could supplement with t5, Those are really nice lights your looking to purchase my suggestion would be to tag Chip Green and ask your ? Hes one of the resident light gurus! Like i said im new & dont know my way around here yet, But im suprised you havent gotten help yet, The ppl here are usually johnny on the spot with answers! Good Luck Peace

Brettman · Jan 25, 2020

I’ve also been wondering the same thing, I am not getting very good results since switching from cfl to led for my clones and seedlings.

Nizza · Jan 25, 2020

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these can all be options too. I would pick something you can use by itself, then have in supplement with the 550 when it can use all the light

The best IMO is two light fixtures of blue on either side of ur red one in flower. And then just the blues for early veg.
Either two strips of qb 11's or 2 fixtures with qb 120 4k's, or just a B-spec . The B spec looks nice

fragileassassin · Jan 25, 2020

I personally feel my plants veg better under my 2 4ft 8 bulb T5s with 5000K bulbs than my expensive 3500k + 660nm led setup.
Its why I have 2 separate setups.

Couch_Lock · Jan 25, 2020

dazed_spirit said:
I'm going to be purchasing HLG 550 v2 r-specs and I know they dip into the deep red spectrum for flowering but they don't seem to have a whole lotta blue. Do you think it would be overkill to get a cpl fluorescent bulbs for the veg stage?
If you think this it is beneficial, do you have any suggestions for supplemental blue lights? Ya know the kind that produce the 4500-5000 Kelvin needed to tighten up nodal spacing?

link to QB i will be using

HLG-550 V2 Rspec CSA, ETL, UL certified

High Efficiency Commercial Indoor Horticulture LED grow light designed to replace a single-ended 1000watt HID with just 490 Watts. 1257 PPF @ 2.6PPF/W. Full-spectrum. Reliable passive-cooled design. Powered by Samsung LM301B LED and Osram SSL 660nm

www.horticulturelightinggroup.ca

a CMH with a Phillips 4200k bulb will DEF tighten up internodal spacing some. But the Rspec 3500k does a good job without it. Never used flourescents so can't comment on those. At any rate the difference is minimal, save u money.

Nizza · Jan 25, 2020

after looking at more boards... these 5k ones are a STEAL and only 29$/board for the V1's! https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb288-quantum-board?variant=5992768897051

fragileassassin · Jan 25, 2020

Nizza said:
after looking at more boards... these 5k ones are a STEAL and only 29$/board for the V1's! https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb288-quantum-board?variant=5992768897051

v1s are cheap because everyone overlooks the 561 diodes since the 301s have been out a while now. In reality the 301s arent really significantly better and 561s are a great value right now.

NevadaBudz · Jan 25, 2020

Nizza said:
after looking at more boards... these 5k ones are a STEAL and only 29$/board for the V1's! https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb288-quantum-board?variant=5992768897051

Nice call on the V1 boards! Think ill get a few for seedlings & veg, Looks like they only need heatsinks above 1050ma / 60w correct ?

Nizza · Jan 25, 2020

I would still install it on a 1/8 thick peice of aluminum, because of how cheap it is. Plus it would make hanging it easier~ but yes you are correct. anything above 60w requires a heat sync.
"May require an Aluminum plate or heatsink if running 60+ watts. Heatsink requirements depends on application and power. "

Rocket Soul · Jan 25, 2020

The soft light and some infrared heat seems to work quite good with some finicky strains. Though many veg really well with just leds. 4000k and remember to keep heat up

Humple · Jan 25, 2020

I veg with straight 3000k QBs, and it works great. That said, my new clones and seedlings are always started under a 6500k 65w CFL.

NevadaBudz · Jan 25, 2020

Nizza said:
I would still install it on a 1/8 thick peice of aluminum, because of how cheap it is. Plus it would make hanging it easier~ but yes you are correct. anything above 60w requires a heat sync.
"May require an Aluminum plate or heatsink if running 60+ watts. Heatsink requirements depends on application and power. "

Ok Thanks! I have sum left over alum L & Channel from my current eb gen 2 build i can use or ill see if i can scrounge up a sheet of alum laying around. Peace

Chip Green · Jan 25, 2020

NevadaBudz said:
Hes one of the resident light gurus!

Guru???... Complete balderdash!!!

But to fling my opinion into the formula, one can supplement any soft spot in canopy light level, with whatever you have on hand! Granted you can keep conditions in check.
There's been times where I've had dome-less screw in dollar store bulbs, running around the edges of several hundred $ builds!!!

Photon free for all, in my zones.

Dreaming1 · Jan 25, 2020

fragileassassin said:
I personally feel my plants veg better under my 2 4ft 8 bulb T5s with 5000K bulbs than my expensive 3500k + 660nm led setup.
Its why I have 2 separate setups.

This is what I'm wondering about. I have a 8 bulb t5, 400w MH conversion, and 1000w HPS. When summer comes, the HID's have to go away. And I was looking at QB's, COB's, or even some Blurples to keep some clones alive thru the summer of my best strain. I got a couple of clones and they wanted to try to flower under the 18 hours of t5 light. When they went under the 400W, they straightened up. I'm thinking 2-3 of the t5 fixtures. Cheap and cool running.

dazed_spirit · Jan 27, 2020

fragileassassin said:
I personally feel my plants veg better under my 2 4ft 8 bulb T5s with 5000K bulbs than my expensive 3500k + 660nm led setup.
Its why I have 2 separate setups.

I am eventually going to do two set-ups for veg/ flower but currently I am only able to to swing the one. So i splurged on the HLGs lol.

dazed_spirit · Jan 27, 2020

NevadaBudz said:
Im a greenhorn here but yes you could supplement with t5, Those are really nice lights your looking to purchase my suggestion would be to tag Chip Green and ask your ? Hes one of the resident light gurus! Like i said im new & dont know my way around here yet, But im suprised you havent gotten help yet, The ppl here are usually johnny on the spot with answers! Good Luck Peace

Thanks for the heads up on who to hassle man lol it is appreciated

dazed_spirit · Jan 27, 2020

Couch_Lock said:
a CMH with a Phillips 4200k bulb will DEF tighten up internodal spacing some. But the Rspec 3500k does a good job without it. Never used flourescents so can't comment on those. At any rate the difference is minimal, save u money.

Lol thanks man I appreciate the input!

fragileassassin · Jan 27, 2020

dazed_spirit said:
I am eventually going to do two set-ups for veg/ flower but currently I am only able to to swing the one. So i splurged on the HLGs lol.

You'll be very happy with them!

I'm going to using QB's. Does anyone here supplement veg with fluorescent lights?

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