I'm in the weeds

LeastExpectedGrower

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And just to prove I've got some skin in the game, here are my 'first round.' Alas, all autos (would do that differently had I known then what I know now)... 2x Northern Lights, 1x Tangerine Dream, 1x Blueberry. The tallest (Northern Lights) stands 20" the shortest (The other NL ties with the TD) is about 12". Third week of flowering.
 

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LeastExpectedGrower

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Distilled water kills plants.
Can you provide any more information on the how and why for this? Just wondering. I'm using well water myself but did use some distilled water early on since it's sort of a neutral known quantity in terms of pH, etc. What is it missing besides some mineral content that would make it kill or damage plants.
 

DrOgkush

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Distilled waters ph is so low it will lock your plant out. I keep seeing it over and over and over again. Same with the people who water alkaline water. Ph 9.5. Distilled water is usually around 5
 

Notanist

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So should I just use tap water that is adjusted to the right PH? I was afraid to use regular tap because of chloramine. Could I boil it or would it just have to set out for a period of time?
 

Notanist

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And just to prove I've got some skin in the game, here are my 'first round.' Alas, all autos (would do that differently had I known then what I know now)... 2x Northern Lights, 1x Tangerine Dream, 1x Blueberry. The tallest (Northern Lights) stands 20" the shortest (The other NL ties with the TD) is about 12". Third week of flowering.
All I can think of is Fred MacMurray when I see your avatar. :)
 

Notanist

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Well here we go again. Watered Monday, came home Tuesday and 2 of them were droopy as hell. The youngest one looked perfectly fine. Took the 2 out and gave them a gallon of water each. Droopy 2.jpgDroopy1.jpgDroopy 2.jpgDroopy 2.jpgDroopy.jpg
 

Notanist

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Leaf-stems down says 'water us'... so you did the right thing. Leaf stems up but leaves drooping says 'I'm over watered'.
I am beginning to think in my effort to not overwater, I am doing just the opposite. The day before I had taken a 20 oz. coke bottle full of water and distributed it among the 3 plants. Apparently, they did not appreciate my best efforts to not drown them.
 

Notanist

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Another question if you will. I am wanting to start watering with tap water and quit using distilled. I know if I leave it out for 24 to 48 hours open, the chlorine will dissipate. But what about the chloramine that is in the water? Back when I owned a pet shop we had to use a product called Amquel to make the water safe for fish. This was back in the 80's. They used a molecular bond of this that would not dissipate. The Amquel would split the bond so it could aerate out like chlorine would naturally. Just really want to know how you all prep your tap for use on the plants.
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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My recent escapades in watering (soil, not coco, or other mediums) have led me with full sized plants to not worry about putting in too much at one time, but to be more concerned about letting 'em dry out before you re-water.

I dropped 5 gallons of water through one plant last Friday...I get runoff starting at about a gallon. So what that means is there was ~4 gallons that went in top and back out the bottom. The plants don't care how much is passing through the pot in all honesty. I have houseplants that I water by putting under the faucet and just letting the soil saturate and keep running until it's pouring down the drain so I'm not new to this concept.

What you end up with is a substrate that's fully watered (minus errant pockets that this helps to get rid of). Then I don't do anything until I dig a finger in and feel dry down (for me that's 2-3 inches). My soil is too dense and should have more perlite for quicker drying...but Friday's 5 gallon water (really a flush), meant that I re-watered that plant yesterday (Wednesday).

Unless you're with young sprouts and seedlings, overwatering isn't 'I used too much at a time' as it is "I've watered too many times."

Also, if you're not getting the soil wet everywhere, roots aren't going to populate those areas. They want to go where there's moisture.
 

DrOgkush

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Another question if you will. I am wanting to start watering with tap water and quit using distilled. I know if I leave it out for 24 to 48 hours open, the chlorine will dissipate. But what about the chloramine that is in the water? Back when I owned a pet shop we had to use a product called Amquel to make the water safe for fish. This was back in the 80's. They used a molecular bond of this that would not dissipate. The Amquel would split the bond so it could aerate out like chlorine would naturally. Just really want to know how you all prep your tap for use on the plants.
Tap is a thousand times better than distilled due to the fact that distilled ph is usually around 5.

also hydrophobic soil is where your soil is not absorbing the water and more less pushing it away throughout the container out the bottom. Usually runoff imminently is a result of that.
 
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