Impeach the so called President?

...not exactly, he has not sworn to give honest testamony.

Also he is not responsible for passing a budget, he is merely responsible for okaying or denying what the Two houses pass.

Flaming Pie said:

...not exactly, he has not sworn to give honest testamony.

Also he is not responsible for passing a budget, he is merely responsible for okaying or denying what the Two houses pass.

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Actually it is his job to put it together, and then Congresses job to "pass" it. However, Congress cannot "pass" a budget without there being a budget to "pass". Get it?

Obama lovers take this criticism as it is only directed towards Obama. No. On the contrary, EVERY president should be held to high standards. Obama just so happens to be the current president. Romney would have most likely fucked shit up as well.

I honestly do NOT comprehend how individuals like you and I can be OKAY with pressure to perform in our careers, yet the highest position in the country can have solace in the fact he will keep his job independent of his performance.

No. It is in the Constitution.

The responsibility of budgets belongs to congress.

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
Section. 3.
He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.
Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

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Where exactly in the duties of president do you see passing laws/budgets?

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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The power lies with the congress.

ah ha naive youth, think s the title holder of leader of the free world is anything but a puppet show

fb360 said:

Actually it is his job to put it together, and then Congresses job to "pass" it. However, Congress cannot "pass" a budget without there being a budget to "pass". Get it?

Obama lovers take this criticism as it is only directed towards Obama. No. On the contrary, EVERY president should be held to high standards. Obama just so happens to be the current president. Romney would have most likely fucked shit up as well.

I honestly do NOT comprehend how individuals like you and I can be OKAY with pressure to perform in our careers, yet the highest position in the country can have solace in the fact he will keep his job independent of his performance.

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no, actually the presidential budget is pretty new.

the congress's job is to originate and vote on all spending, all legislation and whatnot, the president under the constitution has no influence on any appropriations beyond the veto, and the ability to request the congress do some things, which they may decline to do at their pleasure.

Bwana Obama is in violation of the 1921 Budget and Accounting Act, but the law is toothless.

he could create a "budget' that says "Gimme More Munney!!!" scrawled on a cocktail napkin with doodles of people having depraved sex in the corners, and he would still have fulfilled his obligations under the act.

the act was more a means of creating two of the largest bureaucracies most people have never heard of, the GAO and the OMB. they pretty much just create interminable reports and useless stacks of paper in which to hide the scandalous details of where our money is really going. they dont produce anything that benefits the nation, or the people, they are mostly just a place to employ your bit on the side, or your dumbass cousin who cant find a real job so your mom will shut up, and a method of creating the screen of Red Tape that makes life in washington so much safer for the malefactors.

And as far as golfing when he had a bill on his desk to pass...

All he has to say is that he was taking time to consider it.

richinweed said:

does impeach mean lynch?

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No, oh no. How barbaric. No this mean stripped, rubbed down with rotten M size peaches, and staked over an ant hill.

Doer said:

Very serious charge
Only Congress can supply arms
Iran contra was like that

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no, only congress can authorize appropriations.

i can sell all the arms i want as long as i do it within the laws of the country in question.

if i set up a gun factory in somalia i can sell guns anywhere i want, as long as i dont ever put myself in a position to get "renditioned" into a dank stinking prison in armenia where car batteries are more likely to be attached to genitals that cars, and the "Dunk Tank" is not a carnival game.

colt arms can sell guns to mexico, to germany to spain, to switzerland etc... but if they sell guns to the shining path, or abu saif they WILL be visiting armenia for a quick round of Musical Anal Probe Chairs or Ring-Around-The-Dude-Pile

as long as you dont suspect youre selling arms to a forbidden group you can sell arms to anyone you like.

only congress can authorize giving guns away at taxpayers expense, or hiring a CIA front company to fly them into venezuaela under cover of darkness.

Iran Contra was about a dirty deal which SOLD heavy weapons (jets and tanks and parts thereof) to Iran (who are still on the No Deals list) and using that money to finance the Contras in nicaragua which had been refused by the congress as an expenditure but not forbidden by law.

the only crimes involved in iran contra were selling shit to iran, and violating the laws of nicaragua without congress's direct approval

thge real sin in Iran Contra was the fact that it was done without the democrats approval so they could not take credit for it, if successful. (if it was a failure of course they would ensure that it was entirely reagan's fault)

oddly enough iran Contra is irrelevant to the discussion at hand since it was done entirely without the knowledge of the administration, who intended to do it, and drew up the plans, but dropped the issue after it was rejected by congress.

Olliver North took it upon himself to see that ronnie's plan came to fruition, regardless of the desires of congress, and he took the responsibility like a man. who in the obama administration will actually take responsibility for Fast N Furious, or benghazi, or the drone attacks, or obamacare's ultimate failure etc etc etc?

Samwell Seed Well said:

ah ha naive youth, think s the title holder of leader of the free world is anything but a puppet show

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Oh really...are you sneering at the Constitution again? Or just sneering at believing in it?....you, being 1/2 Subject of the Canada Crown.

Of course, you think like this. Haughty.

Was Bush Impeached for ignoring the warnings prior to 911, getting us into multiple wars under the false pretext of "Weapons of mass destruction', or by completely emptying the Surplus this country had and putting us in an economic hole so fucking deep it will take generations to fix it?

No-- because there was no provable examples of a conscious and deliberate violation of the Constitution in doing so...

Same for Obama-- Too many people are sheeple-- you believe whatever you hear that supports what you already WANT to believe- no matter who or what the subject.

Grow a few braincells and read the FACTS and make decisions for yourself-- do NOT be swayed and brainwashed by the 24-hour a day political media- regardless of what side you are on... both sides are biased.

Just because he is Black, his father was a Muslim, and- oh yeah! He MUST be bad/not a real American because he was born and raised outside the Continental U.S! But guess what? So was McKain!!! He was Born in Panama and spent many years of his childhoos all over the Pacific Islands! I Don't hear people saying HE isn't an American Citizen!
Oh......... that's right......
He's an old white Guy and a Republican.... so he MUST be "ok"!!?????

Flaming Pie said:

And as far as golfing when he had a bill on his desk to pass...

All he has to say is that he was taking time to consider it.

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he doesnt even have to say that.

when presented with a bill passed by the house and the senate the Pres has 3 options,:

1) Sign it, making it law

2) Veto it, forcing the congress to try and re-pass it with a 2/3 majority for a veto override

3) Do nothing for 10 days. this is called the Pocket Veto, and is not an outright rejection of the proposed law but is otherwise a veto the same as if he had hit it with the Fuck You stamp. its a kinder and gentler way of vetoing.

You are so shrill up in the nose bleed partisan seats you can only yell about Bush.

When Congress gets to the bottom we will know. Just like in Bush, and Clinton, Nixon....all of them,

So, no, it is for Congress, not Politics and you can't shout it down. until then and after that you will still be a mis-informed partisan.

There is nothing comparable about these two Presidents and these situations, except you Hate one of them, and even that hate was cooked for you.

LadyZandra said:

Was Bush Impeached for ignoring the warnings prior to 911, getting us into multiple wars under the false pretext of "Weapons of mass destruction', or by completely emptying the Surplus this country had and putting us in an economic hole so fucking deep it will take generations to fix it?

No-- because there was no provable examples of a conscious and deliberate violation of the Constitution in doing so...

Same for Obama-- Too many people are sheeple-- you believe whatever you hear that supports what you already WANT to believe- no matter who or what the subject.

Grow a few braincells and read the FACTS and make decisions for yourself-- do NOT be swayed and brainwashed by the 24-hour a day political media- regardless of what side you are on... both sides are biased.

Just because he is Black, his father was a Muslim, and- oh yeah! He MUST be bad/not a real American because he was born and raised outside the Continental U.S! But guess what? So was McKain!!! He was Born in Panama and spent many years of his childhoos all over the Pacific Islands! I Don't hear people saying HE isn't an American Citizen!
Oh......... that's right......
He's an old white Guy and a Republican.... so he MUST be "ok"!!?????

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the "warning prior to 9-11" were the sort of inane threats the US had been receiving for decades from sandland. clinton also received those same dire predictions and did nothing about them. Edit: and rightly so, since the CIA and NSA had been saying for decades that a plot was afoot, and then saying "but dont worry, we got this shit" or "but they cant do shit to us from all the way over there". nobody saw 9-11 coming, since the threatrs have been NON STOP and (almost) 100% baseless puffery for 50 years.

the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" were NOT a pretext. check your Wikileaks for more information on mustard saran and VX filled artillery shells, chemical sprayers with saran residue, loaded scuds hidden in junkyards, and jets buried in the desert all found after 10 years of Hans Blix's searches. even Hans Blix's report which has been widely characterized as saying "There aint shit in iraq" actually says "We didnt find shit in iraq but we werent allowed to look in any of the places we think the shit was hidden"

the "multiple wars" are pure bullshit. one of them was ONGOING since 1989, since we only had a cease fire with iraq (same with north korea since the 50's BTW) and saddam didnt abide by one single stipulation of that treaty for even one day. in reality the cease fire shouldnt have lasted a afternoon, much less ten years of bush 1 and clinton's waffling. the war with afghanistan was richly deserved, and was only concurrent with iraq, because clinton and bush1 failed to do their fucking jobs.

the "surplus" never existed, it was a fiction based on long term projections that assumed the internet bubble would never burst. thats why despite the "surplus" the national debt still kept climbing . if you have a "surplus" you do not have to add to the debt since you can use the "surplus" to pay for shit interest free.

the "Economic Hole" has been 60 years in the digging, and cannot be blamed on any one party or any one person. but we can say, that Barrack is the hardest working man the Hole Factory has seen for 60 years, and he digs like he was born with a shovel in his hand. in his 5 years at the coal face, obama has moved us much deeper into the earth than all the previous diggers combined, including reagan and carter who were both a mean hand with a pick and shovel themselves. if you really want to stop the hole from getting any deeper, then i suggest giving obama some time off. hes a fiscal John Henry, laying down more debt than even the most powerful steam driven debt machine can.


ohh yeah, and obama's black too. thats the only reason im not a Barrack Booster.
Thats also why im such a HUGE FAN of jimmy carter, cuz he's not black, and why i think clinton is so great, because he too is like totally not black.
woodrow wilson is the best president EVER because he is so not black.

Warren G Harding, yeah he sucks, because he is in fact an Octoroon.

ohh wait, i hate clinton wilson and carter and LIKE Harding! wow, there went that theory,

desert dude said:

his insufferable smirking

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richinweed said:

does impeach mean lynch?

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you have broken the secret code.

UncleBuck said:

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i know yoiu love that picture, and it is rife with comnedic possibilities, but thats totally not a smirk, much less an insufferable one.

thats the Pedosmile, or the classic Creepy Uncle Grin.

this is an insufferable smirk



but this one is just perfect.

gonna have to disagree with the smirk police here.

that comes up on a simple google search for romney smirk. hell, i present to you exhibit B:



this is just another example of why you shouldn't try to push your definitions as the one and only definition, empirical evidence be damned.

that's why your hatred for "multiculturalism" is so retarded and out of touch with reality. just because you have concocted in your own silly, bircher mind a definition for multiculturalism that leads us to a "singular mindset" does not grant your definition any basis in reality whatsoever.

if things worked in the manner in which you seem to think they work, i could just define my lawn as cannabis and get rich selling my lawnmower clippings. but alas, grass does not have any THC, just as multiculturalism is not secret commie code speak for hitler children of a singular mindset, no matter how much you try to insist it is.

that is just your bircher delusion, and your logically retarded modus operandi.

Yes impeached and imprisoned if not publicly hung from the top of the Washington monument.
left to rot for months until his body decays and all his bones fall and collect at the bottom of the monument making for perfect doggy chew toys.

Why stop there?




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