Blackhawk149
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I'd say go with the seeds for now.
India Grower's Thread
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braddaheee
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What you guys think about Veging by keeping plants under CFL's for 7hr, then throwing em in the sun for 10hr? I wanna try this cause I don't yet have the ideal indoor setup, but I think I'll have enough for short periods, for the time being.. Y'all think this will work?
EDIT: I just found out my biggest plant is female! So now I got 2 small and 1 decent sz girls. Only the short, bushy, indica looking plant more hasn't shown sex yet.. Would be sick if it pops pistils!
The tiny one turned out to be male, so Im giving it away.
EDIT: I just found out my biggest plant is female! So now I got 2 small and 1 decent sz girls. Only the short, bushy, indica looking plant more hasn't shown sex yet.. Would be sick if it pops pistils!
The tiny one turned out to be male, so Im giving it away.
Blackhawk149
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Post some pictures. And congrats on the female.
braddaheee
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I don't have the camera now.. I might get it in a week or so. The girls don't look deficient in anything, but are kinda droopy today.. Hopefully some tea and a lil time will make em look sharp in a few days.
Blackhawk149
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It can be over watering.
braddaheee
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They looking pretty good today. I think I'll transplant the big one in a day or 2.
Blackhawk149
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not seen you around here in ages
Blackhawk149
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I dont want to prove anything lol.
elchupacabra
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haha if blackhawk is a chick that's fucking awesome. 
don't need to prove shit; i can't see why anyone would pretend to be a chick, if that was the case it'd be a pretty fucking good prank to pull on someone. i personally am the only one out of my friends' circle and friends' friends' circle who grows...supply some uncles here and there as well, foreign and indian.
shout out to you guys in india considering buying fox farm soil, nutrients, etc...dafuq? you do realize you're paying for dirt? step back for a minute and remember that these plants thrive in the wild and have done so for years before the first human ever walked the planet...if it could do it then without ocean forest and big bloom i'm sure it can do it now...if you do want better quality soil than average, which you probably would, considering your paying more than a hundred bucks for a damn seed, there are lots of options for you that can get you a solid mix for less than a couple grand...it just requires you to step out of the box...
in other countries, products like bat guano (high phosphorous) and blood meal (high N) are readily available. The only place you can get bat guano in India is ajanta caves or Elora in Maharashtra, and you'll probably have to pile it into a sack yourself when the tour guide isn't looking. or as several wise men here have stated, you can pay through your butthole and get 1.5cft of FFOF. a better idea, in my opinion, would be to read up a bit on organic gardening and understand that what people use to grow in other countries aren't the only things that there are in the world to use for growing. India is one of the places in the world where coco peat is dirt cheap as we're a tropical country - maximize on this. use coco peat as a base. i've heard of soilrite, haven't tried it, but i've seen their website. if you do your reading, sphagnum peat moss is coco peat with a tendency to have a lower ph. it also clumps up a bit more, making it better for seedling trays and transplanting very small seedlings when mixed with a bit of coco peat and either agar agar or gelatine (a.k.a. spongepots). now for the nutrients. You live in a developing country. You will either have to pay to get products of imported quality, or pay with effort of going around and finding your shit. for the average person, you can take one day off of work/school and get the job done. spend the previous day getting phone numbers and calling and inquiring, spend the next day going around. yes, that's still one day, it shouldn't take a full day to get phone numbers...
india has lots of seed cakes. get yourself some neem cake, karanja (castor) cake, cottonseed cake, pongamia (honge [pronounced hong-gay]) cake, bone meal (also known as stera meal). manure is also very readily available. for fuck's sake, have you seen how many cows we have around here? Get off your ass and go and ask some fuckers on the street where you can pick up cow manure for the plants, very good source of available nutrients, cows have 4 stomachs to digest and redigest...sheep dung is also good. people say you have to compost it to use it, which is true. most people don't have space for compost piles. what they don't know is that composting and biodegrading can take place in a small 5 litre pot as well. if you're in a hurry, you mix the manure in a lower quantity with your soil and keep it at the bottom of your pot (check out subcool's supersoil - that's the concept here). it will biodegrade as long as it's out of the refrigerator.
bottom line folks: if you're hell bent on getting nutes from brand names like fox farm for ridiculous prices (when you're in india; i don't think it's quite as expensive in usa, but i still wouldn't use it, money wasted on chemicals is just that : wasted) then you don't have a choice, you'll have to pay. if you're willing to put in some time reading about organic growing and microbial life in the soil (teaming with microbes is an excellent book for this, provides scientific information in simple terms, but you'll have to do some online reading as well) you'll understand that chemicals damage the soil permanently and incur much larger expenses at no real benefit whatsoever. Organic soil can be reused repeatedly, with just enzymes and organic matter added to it after a crop is finished. it does take a little more sharpness on the part of the grower (i.e., when the plants are telling you something you need to understand and act as organic ammendments are not fast acting like chemicals). if you don't have the patience to understand what you're doing and learn about the soil and grow organically, then you'll have to resort to chemicals. being a developing country, india isn't too far ahead as far as these go, and i'd always go for the best the place i'm living in has to offer. which in india, is organics.
so get off of ebay and out onto the streets, into the narrower roads, into some nurseries, communicate. indian stores will ask you what you're growing. you can very openly state that you're growing roses and tomatoes.
for a girl like blackhawk this is bound to be harder given the nature of indian society...but if you really want to i'm sure you can get it done
keep boomin babe, blackhawk, respect for a girl growing in a country like india
haha axis it seems as though you're bent on getting everyone to prove what they're doing. relax a bit
i veg my plants for 2-3 weeks (more if they're the slow start type - herijuana, afghani, papaya, hardcore indicas) under cfls in a 2ft x 2ft x 2ft area. i've got about 8 cfl bulbs (each 26-36w, 3 warm 5 cool) and as long as the lights are placed close, no stretch. after seedling trays, they're transplanted to either 1 or 2 litre pots. i pick out the ones looking good and looking not so good, and place half of each indoors, the other half goes outside. this happens about 1.5 weeks from seed germination. as soon as the plants are too close to the lights and there's no space to move them any further away, they go outside. usually this is within 3-4 weeks from seed. indian plants cannot be placed indoors as they don't respond to the low light conditions well at all.
i'm getting my hands on several strains very shortly in another two weeks or so, including:
somango, great white shark, pineapple express, malawi gold, red beard, gambian landrace, blue kronic, the big, and more. will be doing my fair share of breeding, after which I plan on donating several seeds. months to go for that though, about 3 or 4.
go organic and happy growing
ElChupacabra
don't need to prove shit; i can't see why anyone would pretend to be a chick, if that was the case it'd be a pretty fucking good prank to pull on someone. i personally am the only one out of my friends' circle and friends' friends' circle who grows...supply some uncles here and there as well, foreign and indian.shout out to you guys in india considering buying fox farm soil, nutrients, etc...dafuq? you do realize you're paying for dirt? step back for a minute and remember that these plants thrive in the wild and have done so for years before the first human ever walked the planet...if it could do it then without ocean forest and big bloom i'm sure it can do it now...if you do want better quality soil than average, which you probably would, considering your paying more than a hundred bucks for a damn seed, there are lots of options for you that can get you a solid mix for less than a couple grand...it just requires you to step out of the box...
in other countries, products like bat guano (high phosphorous) and blood meal (high N) are readily available. The only place you can get bat guano in India is ajanta caves or Elora in Maharashtra, and you'll probably have to pile it into a sack yourself when the tour guide isn't looking. or as several wise men here have stated, you can pay through your butthole and get 1.5cft of FFOF. a better idea, in my opinion, would be to read up a bit on organic gardening and understand that what people use to grow in other countries aren't the only things that there are in the world to use for growing. India is one of the places in the world where coco peat is dirt cheap as we're a tropical country - maximize on this. use coco peat as a base. i've heard of soilrite, haven't tried it, but i've seen their website. if you do your reading, sphagnum peat moss is coco peat with a tendency to have a lower ph. it also clumps up a bit more, making it better for seedling trays and transplanting very small seedlings when mixed with a bit of coco peat and either agar agar or gelatine (a.k.a. spongepots). now for the nutrients. You live in a developing country. You will either have to pay to get products of imported quality, or pay with effort of going around and finding your shit. for the average person, you can take one day off of work/school and get the job done. spend the previous day getting phone numbers and calling and inquiring, spend the next day going around. yes, that's still one day, it shouldn't take a full day to get phone numbers...
india has lots of seed cakes. get yourself some neem cake, karanja (castor) cake, cottonseed cake, pongamia (honge [pronounced hong-gay]) cake, bone meal (also known as stera meal). manure is also very readily available. for fuck's sake, have you seen how many cows we have around here? Get off your ass and go and ask some fuckers on the street where you can pick up cow manure for the plants, very good source of available nutrients, cows have 4 stomachs to digest and redigest...sheep dung is also good. people say you have to compost it to use it, which is true. most people don't have space for compost piles. what they don't know is that composting and biodegrading can take place in a small 5 litre pot as well. if you're in a hurry, you mix the manure in a lower quantity with your soil and keep it at the bottom of your pot (check out subcool's supersoil - that's the concept here). it will biodegrade as long as it's out of the refrigerator.
bottom line folks: if you're hell bent on getting nutes from brand names like fox farm for ridiculous prices (when you're in india; i don't think it's quite as expensive in usa, but i still wouldn't use it, money wasted on chemicals is just that : wasted) then you don't have a choice, you'll have to pay. if you're willing to put in some time reading about organic growing and microbial life in the soil (teaming with microbes is an excellent book for this, provides scientific information in simple terms, but you'll have to do some online reading as well) you'll understand that chemicals damage the soil permanently and incur much larger expenses at no real benefit whatsoever. Organic soil can be reused repeatedly, with just enzymes and organic matter added to it after a crop is finished. it does take a little more sharpness on the part of the grower (i.e., when the plants are telling you something you need to understand and act as organic ammendments are not fast acting like chemicals). if you don't have the patience to understand what you're doing and learn about the soil and grow organically, then you'll have to resort to chemicals. being a developing country, india isn't too far ahead as far as these go, and i'd always go for the best the place i'm living in has to offer. which in india, is organics.
so get off of ebay and out onto the streets, into the narrower roads, into some nurseries, communicate. indian stores will ask you what you're growing. you can very openly state that you're growing roses and tomatoes.
for a girl like blackhawk this is bound to be harder given the nature of indian society...but if you really want to i'm sure you can get it done
keep boomin babe, blackhawk, respect for a girl growing in a country like indiahaha axis it seems as though you're bent on getting everyone to prove what they're doing. relax a bit
i veg my plants for 2-3 weeks (more if they're the slow start type - herijuana, afghani, papaya, hardcore indicas) under cfls in a 2ft x 2ft x 2ft area. i've got about 8 cfl bulbs (each 26-36w, 3 warm 5 cool) and as long as the lights are placed close, no stretch. after seedling trays, they're transplanted to either 1 or 2 litre pots. i pick out the ones looking good and looking not so good, and place half of each indoors, the other half goes outside. this happens about 1.5 weeks from seed germination. as soon as the plants are too close to the lights and there's no space to move them any further away, they go outside. usually this is within 3-4 weeks from seed. indian plants cannot be placed indoors as they don't respond to the low light conditions well at all.
i'm getting my hands on several strains very shortly in another two weeks or so, including:
somango, great white shark, pineapple express, malawi gold, red beard, gambian landrace, blue kronic, the big, and more. will be doing my fair share of breeding, after which I plan on donating several seeds. months to go for that though, about 3 or 4.
go organic and happy growing
ElChupacabra
Blackhawk149
Active Member
Thanks elchupacabra. 
M already trying garden guru hydro nutes in coco on a somango and two Indian bagseed plants. Got only the NLXJACK Under AN jungle juice. Also got two more Indian plants and a couple of jalapeños n gherkins growing outdoors all organic using something similar to the recipe elchupacabra posted a few weeks back.
And for axis. I think he's in school, he needs to grow up lol.
M already trying garden guru hydro nutes in coco on a somango and two Indian bagseed plants. Got only the NLXJACK Under AN jungle juice. Also got two more Indian plants and a couple of jalapeños n gherkins growing outdoors all organic using something similar to the recipe elchupacabra posted a few weeks back.
And for axis. I think he's in school, he needs to grow up lol.
Blackhawk149
Active Member
Btw u r calling me a kid. Lol. Lets look at it this way.
U want elchupacabra to prove his grow. And u want me to prove my tits. Did either of us ask u to prove anything?
we don't give a damn if u believe in what we r doing. We r getting out grass to smoke n we are happy dear. It really doesn't matter what u think. So m a guy? Ok. If u say so I am. What difference does it make? Nothing.
Get a life dear.
U want elchupacabra to prove his grow. And u want me to prove my tits. Did either of us ask u to prove anything?
we don't give a damn if u believe in what we r doing. We r getting out grass to smoke n we are happy dear. It really doesn't matter what u think. So m a guy? Ok. If u say so I am. What difference does it make? Nothing.
Get a life dear.
Blackhawk149
Active Member
Thanks for all the help Sunni. Btw tried some of your recipes last month. Were amazingly yummy.
braddaheee
Active Member
Axis trolling hard.. The hell do you say to a kook like that lol? Dude sounds sexually deprived or some ish...
Blackhawk149
Active Member
How are ur plants doing?
braddaheee
Active Member
I fed them a tea that mostly consisted of Banana peels, yesterday. I should have diluted it a bit more for the smaller, sorta weak looking plants, cause they look pretty fucked now lol.. At least the big girl loved it! That one is looking very good! The camera is here today, so might take couple pics tomorrow..
Blackhawk149
Active Member
Waiting for some pics here.
braddaheee
Active Member
Will do. Nite
Badman2009
Member
El chupa, well said man, its organics all the way! You've been dearly missed on this page.
Now guys (and Blackhawk), I'm in a bit of a pickle here and need some help. My plant is just about ready for harvest, infact I was going to harvest it today but out of nowhere, it freaking rained last night and my plant got wet. I'm scared shitless for bud rot. Any suggestions as to how I might be able to get the buds dry safely and quickly and harvest them thereafter??
Also, what techniques do you people use for dying and curing?
Now guys (and Blackhawk
), I'm in a bit of a pickle here and need some help. My plant is just about ready for harvest, infact I was going to harvest it today but out of nowhere, it freaking rained last night and my plant got wet. I'm scared shitless for bud rot. Any suggestions as to how I might be able to get the buds dry safely and quickly and harvest them thereafter?? Also, what techniques do you people use for dying and curing?