TheHighSide
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Damn, I like your little factory 
I need to start myself one of those.
I need to start myself one of those.
Indoor Grow: Blueberry & Cream Caramel (fem)
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meathook666
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very nice grow ure doing mate..its freaking me out uve got ur own bats on the porch making nutes for u..thats awesome...why did u cut all ur fan leaves in half??
DrKran
Active Member
Thanks, I love my bats! lol.
The trimming of the fan leafs on clones Its done so the plant focuses more energy on root wroth. It also reduces the plant surface so it will dry out slower. I my self also do it to spot the newly formed leaves easily.
Dr.Kran
ipleedthe5th
Active Member
very good grow man im 4 sure gunna watch this
keep it up
keep it up
DrKran
Active Member
I decided I was gonna do some super cropping on my tall Blueberry. Here are some pics and Info on Super cropping (just in case).
Super Cropping Technique
One method of topping is called Super Cropping. By taking a branch between your forefinger and thumb you can gently crush the branch, causing it to develop multiple branches above the crushed area. You must crush it on the correct side or risk breaking the branch. Just squeeze lightly until you feel the branch give, then let go. If it gives easily then you have crushed it on the correct side. If it is hard to crush and the branch splits then you have chosen the wrong side. Practice makes perfect with Super Cropping.
I usually crush it, bend it away from the HID and then let her stand back up and heal.
PICS: This is the first one i did , 1 week ago.
Here it is healed after a week:
Here is the Second one. Now to the othere side:
The second one is healing fast (usually takes about 5 -7 days).
Ill Post some pics on the new mother seedlings later.
Super Cropping Technique
One method of topping is called Super Cropping. By taking a branch between your forefinger and thumb you can gently crush the branch, causing it to develop multiple branches above the crushed area. You must crush it on the correct side or risk breaking the branch. Just squeeze lightly until you feel the branch give, then let go. If it gives easily then you have crushed it on the correct side. If it is hard to crush and the branch splits then you have chosen the wrong side. Practice makes perfect with Super Cropping.
I usually crush it, bend it away from the HID and then let her stand back up and heal.
PICS: This is the first one i did , 1 week ago.
Here it is healed after a week:
Here is the Second one. Now to the othere side:
The second one is healing fast (usually takes about 5 -7 days).
Ill Post some pics on the new mother seedlings later.
meathook666
Well-Known Member
nicely documented experiment..could u elaborate more on 'multiple branches development'..is it any better than topping or just different/
DrKran
Active Member
Topping is another way of getting multiple branches. I don't like to cut the main cola, but that's me. This way I encourage the growth of the lower and lateral branches and train it not to grow to tall.
Dr.Kran
DrKran
Active Member
Here is some good info on the different techniques:
Supercropping is a term given to a group of techniques that, when used in conjunction, will produce greatly improved yields over untreated plants. Various methods can be used when supercropping, and they are outlined below.
You can use one or all methods of supercropping, modified to your individual needs. The end result is an increased yield.
Crimping
Crimping is an advanced technique whereby you break the inner herd of the plant without damaging the outer, which is where all the plants strength comes from. Break open the stalk of a cannabis plant and you'll notice immediately the hard, outer herd. This is where textiles come from. The soft inner, lighter colored material is pure cellulose - the phloem and xylem.
In vascular plants, phloem is the living tissue that carries organic nutrients, particularly sucrose, a sugar, to all parts of the plant where needed. In trees, the phloem is the innermost layer of the bark, hence the name, derived from the Greek word φλοιος (phloios) for "bark". The phloem is mainly concerned with the transport of glucose and starch made during photosynthesis.
The plant passes water and nutrients cell to cell through this network of cellulose. Breaking the plant's inner walls will cause it to rebuild. But it rebuilds these networks better than they were before; it rebuilds so fast (under good growth conditions) that 24 hours later the plant is using the new highways and it's increased capacity for moving water and nutrients.
This technique can begin as early as the seedling stage. Twisting the plant gently, using both hands so you don't pull on it's roots. Work each of the plants branches every 2", up to once week. Do this by grasping the spot to be treated with two fingers of each hand. Use one hand to stabilize, while the other gently, slowly twists. Or you can twist with both hands in opposite directions, slowly until you feel a slight snap. When the plant's get heartier you will actually be able to hear it.
On smaller branches, you do not need to twist, as firm finger pressure will rupture the herd.
BENDING
Plants naturally bend towards the light. They do this for their benefit, trying to better get into position to receive more light. Why wait for plants to evolve, use your smarts to bend plants into positions that are beneficial. Bending the tip of a branch over into a position where there's no vegetation will speed growth for 2 reasons:
First the branch tip you moved is now getting more unobstructed light by moving it to an area free of vegetation. Second, the area you moved the branch away from is also receiving more light than before. So those parts of the plant also benefit from the move. Potential for growth is increased.
TYING
Forceful confinement or the use of string, twist-ties or a brace of some kind may be required to keep bent branches from simply growing back to their original position. Massage the bending point of the branch with the fingers of one hand while slowly bending -- only intuition will tell you when you've reached the breaking point. Some branches don't have a breaking point, you can tie them in a knot a they'll still grow. Others will snap as soon as you try to bend them. It will take practice and a few broken branches before you learn how far, if at all, any given branch can be manipulated.
TOPPING
Never top an unhealthy plant. Topping is a simple technique of cutting the tip or top of a branch off using sharp scissors. It doesn't matter if it's the main(stem) top or the tip of a side shoot, the resulting effect will be the same. Instead of one top or tip resulting in a single bud, the treated shoot splits and produces 2 or more tips.
It is debatable whether or not this practice will actually increase or decrease the size of buds or overall yield. A healthy plant generally thrives under careful stressing and physical manipulation. This is not something you want to overdue, start slowly and increase the frequency and intensity of your pruning practices over consecutive crop cycles. Gain some experience so you can recognize when you have overdone it.
Thanks to Smokin Moose for the info.
Dr.Kran
Supercropping is a term given to a group of techniques that, when used in conjunction, will produce greatly improved yields over untreated plants. Various methods can be used when supercropping, and they are outlined below.
You can use one or all methods of supercropping, modified to your individual needs. The end result is an increased yield.
Crimping
Crimping is an advanced technique whereby you break the inner herd of the plant without damaging the outer, which is where all the plants strength comes from. Break open the stalk of a cannabis plant and you'll notice immediately the hard, outer herd. This is where textiles come from. The soft inner, lighter colored material is pure cellulose - the phloem and xylem.
In vascular plants, phloem is the living tissue that carries organic nutrients, particularly sucrose, a sugar, to all parts of the plant where needed. In trees, the phloem is the innermost layer of the bark, hence the name, derived from the Greek word φλοιος (phloios) for "bark". The phloem is mainly concerned with the transport of glucose and starch made during photosynthesis.
The plant passes water and nutrients cell to cell through this network of cellulose. Breaking the plant's inner walls will cause it to rebuild. But it rebuilds these networks better than they were before; it rebuilds so fast (under good growth conditions) that 24 hours later the plant is using the new highways and it's increased capacity for moving water and nutrients.
This technique can begin as early as the seedling stage. Twisting the plant gently, using both hands so you don't pull on it's roots. Work each of the plants branches every 2", up to once week. Do this by grasping the spot to be treated with two fingers of each hand. Use one hand to stabilize, while the other gently, slowly twists. Or you can twist with both hands in opposite directions, slowly until you feel a slight snap. When the plant's get heartier you will actually be able to hear it.
On smaller branches, you do not need to twist, as firm finger pressure will rupture the herd.
BENDING
Plants naturally bend towards the light. They do this for their benefit, trying to better get into position to receive more light. Why wait for plants to evolve, use your smarts to bend plants into positions that are beneficial. Bending the tip of a branch over into a position where there's no vegetation will speed growth for 2 reasons:
First the branch tip you moved is now getting more unobstructed light by moving it to an area free of vegetation. Second, the area you moved the branch away from is also receiving more light than before. So those parts of the plant also benefit from the move. Potential for growth is increased.
TYING
Forceful confinement or the use of string, twist-ties or a brace of some kind may be required to keep bent branches from simply growing back to their original position. Massage the bending point of the branch with the fingers of one hand while slowly bending -- only intuition will tell you when you've reached the breaking point. Some branches don't have a breaking point, you can tie them in a knot a they'll still grow. Others will snap as soon as you try to bend them. It will take practice and a few broken branches before you learn how far, if at all, any given branch can be manipulated.
TOPPING
Never top an unhealthy plant. Topping is a simple technique of cutting the tip or top of a branch off using sharp scissors. It doesn't matter if it's the main(stem) top or the tip of a side shoot, the resulting effect will be the same. Instead of one top or tip resulting in a single bud, the treated shoot splits and produces 2 or more tips.
It is debatable whether or not this practice will actually increase or decrease the size of buds or overall yield. A healthy plant generally thrives under careful stressing and physical manipulation. This is not something you want to overdue, start slowly and increase the frequency and intensity of your pruning practices over consecutive crop cycles. Gain some experience so you can recognize when you have overdone it.
Thanks to Smokin Moose for the info.
Dr.Kran
DrKran
Active Member
Im taking a new approach to clone. Since Im only gona be growing 12 plants at the most thats how many clones Im gonna take. Every morning I check them and replace the dead with new ones. So far I think I havae 11 out of the 12, ill have to wait till tomorrow morning. I went back to my old rooting hormone powder.
Since I coudnt find a dome good enogh i got inspired on the rose of The Beauty and The Beast (LOL). It is working good so far.
This is my version:
This is my usual rooting hormone.
The basic Idea:
This is after the first 24 hours:
So This morning I took out the 4 dead ones on the right:
This ones were taken tonight:
Ill check tomorrow and see how many I have and keep at it till all 12 make it.
DR.Kran
Since I coudnt find a dome good enogh i got inspired on the rose of The Beauty and The Beast (LOL). It is working good so far.
This is my version:
This is my usual rooting hormone.
The basic Idea:
This is after the first 24 hours:
So This morning I took out the 4 dead ones on the right:
This ones were taken tonight:
Ill check tomorrow and see how many I have and keep at it till all 12 make it.
DR.Kran
DrKran
Active Member
Some more info on the CC from another source:
Beautiful flower!
For the obtaining of this variety a method of classic improvement applicable to species has been used alógamas or partially alógamas as it is the case of the cannabis, this type of you will cultivate are known in genetic terminology like Synthetic Varieties (V.S.). Cream Caramel is the result of the mixture balanced of several of our better East Indian, chosen by its excellent agronómicas qualities such as production, type and intensity of the aromas, type and intensity of the effect, structures of the plant, short times of flowering, amount of tricommas, resistance to diseases, null tendency to the hermafroditismo and mainly also taking care of its good aptitudes to form good hybrids.
For the creation of Cream Caramel three founding lines have been used, a BlueBlack hybrid of department I+D of Sweet Seeds, an excellent Maple Leaf Indica of wonderful Afghan genetics and a White Rhino whom the East Indian and medicinal face of this Dutch shows polihíbrido famous. With these three parentales lines we formed a balanced population composed by he himself number of individuals of each one of the parentales lines, each group of plants of the same variety was isolated to avoid self-fertilizatioves and to favor the crossed fertilization taking advantage of the heterosis or hybrid vigor to the maximum and we left Inter them you would be polinizasen freely only with the other two parentales lines. They were harvested and the obtained seeds were mixed in equal number of this first generation of the three cameras of polinización, forms then a generation here, we call VS1 to him with all the possible hybrid combinations of the founding lines, is generation was let as well in polinización opened within isolation to avoid the strange entrance of pólenes, giving rise to the crossing in all directions of all the possible hybrid combinations (VS2). In this second generation VS2 the seeds have formed by means of combinations of gametos of the three parentales lines totally shuffled at random. This population is a panmíctica population in balance and all the following generations will be identical to her in free polinización and absence of selection, because the genic frequencies stay constants. In the following generations until VS5 we applied recurrent selection, choosing sufficiently great numbers of parentales that showed agronómicos characters of interest to form the following generation, instead of leaving the process totally at random.Cream Caramel is a V.S. that it shares with the hybrid varieties the objective to take advantage of the hybrid vigor and to contribute to homogeneity to the descendants, fixing in addition by selection in successive generations the most desirable characteristics. After five generations of free polinización and selection, the result is Cream Caramel, a very stable and productive, of intense flavor and with abundant resin, very adaptable variety to unfavorable conditions and environmental adversities (cold, drought, etc.) due to its great genetic bandwidth that it equips to the Cream Caramel with a great genetic flexibility before means, greater than in hybrids F1.
For the obtaining of Cream Caramel like for the rest of varieties of Sweet Seeds they have not been used male in the fertilizations, if not which selected females have been applied to modern methods of reversion of sex on plants, obtaining this way a V.S. that it goes up to around 99.9% of feminine descendants.
The flavor of this variety sweet and is carameled like of treats and very intense, fruit of the cocktail molotov of East Indian that contains, with a bottom of terrosos shades coming from the Blue genetics that takes part in the crossing, a stranger and exotic mixture of more demanding flavors that surely will leave satisfied paladares.
The structure of the plant is typical of East Indian plants, ideal as much for the culture in interior like of outside, with a very short internodal distance, great cogollo central and multitude of lateral branches that are loaded during the flowering of dense and very resinous cogollos.
This type of predominantly East Indian varieties usually is the favourites by the consumers of cannabis for medicinal, quimiotipos uses with high levels of THC and sufficient CBD to induce relajantes and antidepressing states.
It indicates/Sativa: 90%/10%
Modality of culture: Outer interior/
Sex: Feminizada
Type: Synthetic variety.
Origin: Diverse.
Crossing: BlueBlack x Mapple Leaf Indica x White Rhino
Flowering in interior: 56 days. 8 weeks
Flowering in outside: Half-full principles or of September
THC: 15-20%
Production: 400-550 gr. /m2 in interior. 350-600 gr/planta in outside.
Beautiful flower!
For the obtaining of this variety a method of classic improvement applicable to species has been used alógamas or partially alógamas as it is the case of the cannabis, this type of you will cultivate are known in genetic terminology like Synthetic Varieties (V.S.). Cream Caramel is the result of the mixture balanced of several of our better East Indian, chosen by its excellent agronómicas qualities such as production, type and intensity of the aromas, type and intensity of the effect, structures of the plant, short times of flowering, amount of tricommas, resistance to diseases, null tendency to the hermafroditismo and mainly also taking care of its good aptitudes to form good hybrids.
For the creation of Cream Caramel three founding lines have been used, a BlueBlack hybrid of department I+D of Sweet Seeds, an excellent Maple Leaf Indica of wonderful Afghan genetics and a White Rhino whom the East Indian and medicinal face of this Dutch shows polihíbrido famous. With these three parentales lines we formed a balanced population composed by he himself number of individuals of each one of the parentales lines, each group of plants of the same variety was isolated to avoid self-fertilizatioves and to favor the crossed fertilization taking advantage of the heterosis or hybrid vigor to the maximum and we left Inter them you would be polinizasen freely only with the other two parentales lines. They were harvested and the obtained seeds were mixed in equal number of this first generation of the three cameras of polinización, forms then a generation here, we call VS1 to him with all the possible hybrid combinations of the founding lines, is generation was let as well in polinización opened within isolation to avoid the strange entrance of pólenes, giving rise to the crossing in all directions of all the possible hybrid combinations (VS2). In this second generation VS2 the seeds have formed by means of combinations of gametos of the three parentales lines totally shuffled at random. This population is a panmíctica population in balance and all the following generations will be identical to her in free polinización and absence of selection, because the genic frequencies stay constants. In the following generations until VS5 we applied recurrent selection, choosing sufficiently great numbers of parentales that showed agronómicos characters of interest to form the following generation, instead of leaving the process totally at random.Cream Caramel is a V.S. that it shares with the hybrid varieties the objective to take advantage of the hybrid vigor and to contribute to homogeneity to the descendants, fixing in addition by selection in successive generations the most desirable characteristics. After five generations of free polinización and selection, the result is Cream Caramel, a very stable and productive, of intense flavor and with abundant resin, very adaptable variety to unfavorable conditions and environmental adversities (cold, drought, etc.) due to its great genetic bandwidth that it equips to the Cream Caramel with a great genetic flexibility before means, greater than in hybrids F1.
For the obtaining of Cream Caramel like for the rest of varieties of Sweet Seeds they have not been used male in the fertilizations, if not which selected females have been applied to modern methods of reversion of sex on plants, obtaining this way a V.S. that it goes up to around 99.9% of feminine descendants.
The flavor of this variety sweet and is carameled like of treats and very intense, fruit of the cocktail molotov of East Indian that contains, with a bottom of terrosos shades coming from the Blue genetics that takes part in the crossing, a stranger and exotic mixture of more demanding flavors that surely will leave satisfied paladares.
The structure of the plant is typical of East Indian plants, ideal as much for the culture in interior like of outside, with a very short internodal distance, great cogollo central and multitude of lateral branches that are loaded during the flowering of dense and very resinous cogollos.
This type of predominantly East Indian varieties usually is the favourites by the consumers of cannabis for medicinal, quimiotipos uses with high levels of THC and sufficient CBD to induce relajantes and antidepressing states.
It indicates/Sativa: 90%/10%
Modality of culture: Outer interior/
Sex: Feminizada
Type: Synthetic variety.
Origin: Diverse.
Crossing: BlueBlack x Mapple Leaf Indica x White Rhino
Flowering in interior: 56 days. 8 weeks
Flowering in outside: Half-full principles or of September
THC: 15-20%
Production: 400-550 gr. /m2 in interior. 350-600 gr/planta in outside.
DrKran
Active Member
I decided it was time to transplant the 2 future mothers into bigger pots. I got some 1 liter containers that are perfect for my setup. To this are the containers I'll be moving all the clones that survive.
This is the Idea:
Beautiful white healthy root system.
I used the same soil mix for the transplant always.
Inside the closet
Nice & stacked little plant
Final shot:
This is the Idea:
Beautiful white healthy root system.
I used the same soil mix for the transplant always.
Inside the closet
Nice & stacked little plant
Final shot:
DrKran
Active Member
I'm getting my PH pen tomorrow but until then I wanted to test out the manual PH & CL test on some of the water I use.
The Kit:
My apparently perfect Tap water (straight out of the tap) :439:
Water with Seeweed Extract
Water with Seeweed Extract and Bio Stimulant
Check out the bat guano tea.
This was the one giving my plants problems. I tested droping just half a cup in the watering solution and it didn't tested acid, its just to concentrated to apply it directly.
Ill do further testing when I get The PH pen.
The Kit:
My apparently perfect Tap water (straight out of the tap) :439:
Water with Seeweed Extract
Water with Seeweed Extract and Bio Stimulant
Check out the bat guano tea.
This was the one giving my plants problems. I tested droping just half a cup in the watering solution and it didn't tested acid, its just to concentrated to apply it directly.
Ill do further testing when I get The PH pen.
DrKran
Active Member
I took the plants out for cloning and took the chance to take some pics and give'm a Foliar feeding shower.
BB1
BB2
BB's After Foliar feeding:
Cream Caramel
Cleaned the room and the AC:
Then I put the ladies back in:
Ill put pics of the second Cloning attempt tomorrow. Also I started the 12/12 light for Flowering.
BB1
BB2
BB's After Foliar feeding:
Cream Caramel
Cleaned the room and the AC:
Then I put the ladies back in:
Ill put pics of the second Cloning attempt tomorrow. Also I started the 12/12 light for Flowering.
DrKran
Active Member
I started the flowering process yesterday. I switch the 400w Metal Halide for a 400w HPS lamp. I have a 1000w lamp but its way to hot!
From left to right the 1k HPS, 400w HPS & 400w MH
I added timers to the HID and CFLs from 7am - 7pm
And the group photo:
Tomorrow ill check up on the new clones.
From left to right the 1k HPS, 400w HPS & 400w MH
I added timers to the HID and CFLs from 7am - 7pm
And the group photo:
Tomorrow ill check up on the new clones.
