Injustice in Palestine
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hanimmal
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That would make a people ripe for some serious PTSD, and that shit is for life, so I really don't know how healthy of a future abused people are truly capable of after going through such trauma.
Interesting time scale you are considering.
You mean like the Israeli people stopping Netanyahu and Palestinians ousting their nuts with rockets? It would be nice.
It is a shit situation that the Palestinians are in. I don't trust Netanyahu's administration any more than I did Trump's.
But that doesn't mean that I think it's cool to fire rockets into another population and to use the one sided footage of people being attacked by the resulting response from the Israeli's as propaganda to entice more violence.
Is this a actual question?
Say for example I am in a country that allows me to buy a woman from her family, marry her and essentially keep her as a slave, but would be a crime to be homosexual.
Which is basically everywhere at least until around the 1970's maybe.
k0rps
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I hope they find their way..
Yeah, Zionist's movement has been creeping since the 1920s considering our involvement and financial aides.
If you are open and have time, check out the documentary posted.. It’s is very well put together with respected speakers and well-informed guests. Highly recommend for anyone who is interested in the history and real-life experience of Zionism.
Yes or a change in power as in a stop to Zionism. But not very foreseeable, as there are many invested in it's benefits, ie arab control.
Agreed, and to be clear: I am in way saying it is okay either. The examples of the Iron Dome given above were to show how capable Israel is. And the examples of Israeli rockets hitting Gaza were again to show how capable of Israel is in its use of force. With that in mind, who has the power to stop this madness?
Biden repaired the Palestinian $235M aid that Blunder Boi fvcked up for them.
it's just been 90 days- we don't even seen Biden because he has to un-sign 4 years of shit and he has to do it in a triaged manner.
Biden's keeping his pledges two-fold minimally in did I mention in just 90 days?
k0rps
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and i wouldn't be, so i just cancelled out Biden.
that clip is from 2016, BTW.
we've been busy..where was Palestine and Israel when we had a Dictator?- no offense but what's going on in your world is as old as time itself. i feel for you assuming your Palestinian. i feel for you being evicted from your homes and having the Israelis moving in.
the Bible is NOT a deed to land..everyone in the US that cares to, knows what's going on.
Biden restored your aid and sent PPEs (my joke meaning nothing) to the Israelis.
who is the Beauty and who the Beast?
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k0rps
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Anyone who is capable and doesn't take a hard stand on human rights and equality in this specific time, is essentially perpetuating the cycle of destruction.Biden repaired the Palestinian $235M aid that Blunder Boi fvcked up for them.
it's just been 90 days- we don't even seen Biden because he has to un-sign 4 years of shit and he has to do it in a triaged manner.
Biden's keeping his pledges two-fold minimally in did I mention in just 90 days?
hanimmal
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Only the people doing the violence can stop the violence.
And as for your continual use of 'zionism' I call bullshit on that unless you use it in the broader context of all the right wing xenophobic nuts in power everywhere. People need to get over their differences.
What do you know about those people who produced that youtube video that if I click on it will start me down a rabbit hole of something that I can pretend like I have any real understanding about, but it would really be all about what people have told me to believe?
Also anything pre-ww2 is not really something that is any reality anymore. Outside of the very real lessons for the horrific events that had occurred on people due to the white onslaught that the Europeans inflicted on the globe.
printer
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Has Hamas recanted their aim of the destruction of Israel? I do not see Israel playing nice if that is still their goal. Would you allow people to have free ports to import Iranian arms which they would then attack you with?
Also the destruction of homes. Israel bulldozed homes of suicide bombers did they not? I am sure there were a few other crimes that called for it.
I can appreciate your concern for the Palestinians but you do paint a one sided picture. But propaganda does not work that well when you give the other side's account.
printer
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The world is a complicated place.
k0rps
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Documentary is a self-funded and self-produced by a Lebanese man named Sami Moukaddem.
He interviews many people, writers, politicians, artists on the subject of Zionism.
- ABDEL BARI ATWAN
- OMAR BARGHOUTI
- FRANK BARAT
- KEVIN BARRETT
- SOHA BECHARA
- CAOIMHE BUTTERLY
- NOAM CHOMSKY
- RABBI AARON COHEN
- JONATHAN COOKE
- DAVID CRONIN
- RAYMOND DEAN
- CHARLES GAYLE
- DENIS HALLIDAY
- JEFF HALPER
- ALAN HART
- ABIR HASHEM
- SHIR HEVER
- MICHAEL D. HIGGINS
- DAVID HIRST
- GHADA KARMI
- BRIAN KEENAN
- SARA KERSHNER
- GIDEON LEVY
- KEN LOACH
- MAIREAD MAGUIRE
- HAJO MEYER
- AMAL NAZZAL
- KEN O’KEEFE
- RONAN O SNODAIGH
- WILLIAM PARRY
- ZIAD RAHBANI
- LINDA RAMSDEN
- JACK SHAHEEN
- REV. STEPHEN SIZER
- BEN WHITE
- DR. PATRICK WOLFE
hanimmal
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That doesn't really tell me much about anything with him.
But I see at least one name on that list that does jump out at me as being used by propagandists spreading nonsense.
k0rps
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Whats the one sided picture? Rocks vs rockets?
There's a gov that continually oppesses one side, while giving another handouts..
I think it's time to restart the propaganda in our minds and start feeling okay about looking into the injustice happening in Palestine.
You are free to do your own research and dig deeper into the history of colonial zionism and maybe think what 80 years of oppression would do to a people. Then tell me if its not okay to stand with one side over the other, they are crushing human rights... to each his own, brother.
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k0rps
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Seems like you have your mind set and rather focus on propaganda rather than the factual abuse we have been seeing on a daily basis. All I was saying was to put the fighting and war aside and look at the daily lives of Palestinians, tell me thats not oppression, tell me its not abuse and its only but propaganda.
The names are there for you to be able to do your own research and create your own opinions.
hanimmal
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I would buy this more if you just slandered that it was Netenyahu sneaking his fighters over the border to shoot rockets into their own land to make it look like it was Palestinians that did it.
Sure some people are only throwing rocks, but it is disingenuous to pretend like it is just rocks.
We can't even stop government officials from doing that in our own nation, much less some other nation's.
You are pretending like you can't see the injustice while at the same time seeing the terrorism of the rockets being launched from the other side of the border.
I don't know what you mean by 'restarting the propaganda' though.
The 'start right here' time troll is not reality unless you are radicalized by the propaganda or by a terrible event.
Because you say so?
I am just not going to be swayed by the propaganda which is not the same at all as 'focusing' on it, so I really think you are talking out of your ass here.
Why would I tell you that?
"Research" is just bullshit for listening to what other people tell you is going on in this case.
And not far off of the Q anon trolling game.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/ap-cyborgs-trolls-and-bots-a-guide-to-online-misinformation.1005699/post-16328826
we just got a new president and have been pre-occupied; thought that was pretty clear. however, our president saw to it you got your aid restored.
we're not going over there if that's what you mean + we need Mossad occasionally.
we've been at war perpetually (overseas) since i held my first child in my arms and she's 32 now.
we've been at war here in US since inception.
k0rps
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Hamas rockets were launched, but did they hit?
When Israeli rockets came through, how did that pan out for the Palestinians??
Not sure what you mean, buddy. Seems like an obscured way to think about sharing what colonial zionism is about..
Do you think hamas is a threat at all to Israel, for real? After the footage we have seen, the tactics used by Israeli forces and the air strikes and rockets launched into Gaza.. Are Palestinians to pay for what little damage done by Hamas?