Intake/Exhaust....read so much I am now confused....

spandy

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Okay, I have read so much that I have ended up confusing myself on intake/exhaust. So I'll just list what I think is the right way to go, and I would love any feedback that may help either get me on the right track, or tell me I am on the right track.

Box 2x3x4 (2, one veg one flower)

250w hps in flower box

Floros in veg box

4'' inline fan 170cfm with 18'' carbon scrubber inside box and approx. 6 feet smooth ducting for exhaust, fan pulls air through scrubber, not attached to a cool tube, just sucking air off the top of the box. Ducting will have one (1) 90 degree turn, and one (1) 45 degree turn.

passive intake with 3 feet smooth ducting bringing in room temperature air (70F)
some type of homemade hepa filter on intake, intake ducting is a single 6''. Ducting will have one (1) 90 degree turn.


Smell has to be virtually zero, like to be able to vent the exhaust into another room as to not interfere with the stable 70F air in the room that the intake is coming from.

So guess need to know if activated carbon filter can handle the smell, if intake size is going to be sufficient to keep all the air from these sealed boxes from going anywhere but through the carbon scrubber first, and if with a 70F intake temp, if with 170cfm inline fan pulling air through the scrubber, if the intake temps are going to be okay at keeping the temps okay. Intake temps can easily be changed with climate control if needed to compensate for grow box temps, same with humidity and whatnot.

Also, if need be, additional ducting can be added to the already 6 feet of exhaust ducting, bringing the total exhaust ducting to approx 10feet, and allow the exhaust to be ducted into the ceiling, no crawl space up there, just a about a 1.5 foot air space that has insulation in it, and then the flat roof above it. So no real attic, just an airspace with insulation, but wanted to point out that it was an option as well.

Again, NO SMELL, that is most important. So if a bigger filter would be needed, that would be great to know!!! Or another method would help on top of it, that would be another great thing to know.
 

spandy

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Oh, and that fan setup was more for the flower box, with the floros I was wondering if a guy could just do the same fan setup, and if it would have approximately the same temp inside the veg box with floros as the flower box would have with the 250hps considering how often the air is getting replaced in these two boxes. And these boxes are indeed "air tight".

just didn't want anyone thinking that was running a single fan for both boxes is all.
 

KushCanuck

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Your filter should kill all or most of your smell issues. Keep in mind that the general rule of thumb is your fan should be able to clear and filter your room in 5 minutes. Having said that, your 24 cubic feet will easily vent with a 170 CFM fan. As long as there is some intake from outside your space and you have fans for air circulation, you are definitely on the right track. Try not to think on it too much and just trust yourself mate :blsmoke:. Happy Growing

KC :leaf:
 

spandy

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I can't trust myself because up until 2 weeks ago, I had never researched at all, so this is all very very new, and at times very confusing. lol

Thanks for the input, any other ideas/thoughts would be much appreciated. :mrgreen:
 

KushCanuck

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No worries my man, hit me up anytime, I love the research aspect :eyesmoke:. You decided on a strain to grow yet or a medium? You've given much thought to your environment is why I ask. Keep it up

KC :leaf:
 

spandy

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For now, soil as the medium, possibly the foxfarms ocean forest with perlite , and taking a stab at ww and silve haze as the first possible victims lol. I think for now i'll just have to run with something generic as far as nutrients go and see how well it works for me and my setup, and as far as that is concerned, I will be starting with sensi 2 from AN to keep it simple for now and then along the way continue the nutes research and find a killer combo for my setup.

I've all but wrecked my brain for 2 weeks with research. I love learning new things though, but sometimes a guy cracks and has to ask, hence the reason I created this thread lol.

I know I can do it, hell this last summer I decided to rebuild a twin turbo rotory engine in my rx7 because I chipped a corner seal, and I did so succesfully with a little research.....I had never even changed a set of spark plugs on an engine before so that was all new as well, but I pulled it off, so again I'm sure I can drag my ass through this endeavour as well lol.

Thanks man. I love the atmospere on this forum as far as how members seem to be towards another. Very chill place, but we all know why now don't we :bigjoint:
 

KushCanuck

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Something about the herb brings us closer together with one another and the Earth. I'm glad you're considering the SS Haze, I've grown it twice now and it is truely fantastic, good yielder, terrific high, and the smell ... to die for dude :eyesmoke:.

I used to work in a performance shop a couple years back, worked on JDM Hondas and Acuras for shows and drag/auto-x. The RX-7 is very sleak, pretty powerful those 1.3L TT motors, haha. I love it.

Anyways man, you'll love the Super Silver, if you have any questions with it hit me up, I know soil and organics pretty much. Happy growing man, keep us updated and be sure to check out my Strain Test Pilot Thread, should be interesting ;-)

KC :leaf:
 

spandy

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Should I maybe go with a 400w HPS over a 250w? Or would I really see any difference considering my grow space? Or is it going to cause more problems than good things with temperature control?
 

KushCanuck

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The 400w would definitely be better for production, but I'm afraid your space isn't large enough to accomodate such a high heat output light. The 250w is giving you just over 40w/sq ft of HID lighting, pretty sufficient for big buds. I would suggest getting used to the 250w, if you feel like you need more after you have an idea of what you're working with, then opt for the 400w bro, it will only translate into fatter buds and structure. Good luck chap

KC :leaf:
 

KushCanuck

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My apologies Mr. Limpet, I had totally overlooked the possibility of a cool tube. So I'm wrong, haha, with a cool tube you could get a 400w in that space. Like I said before, the increase in light will only be beneficial to the plants. You've now gotten your answers mate ;). Thanks for the slip catch Mr. Limpet, much love

KC :leaf:
 

KushCanuck

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I may even dare a 600 through next winter since my temps with the fan on low havent broke 72f with the light 8" or less away
That's pretty impressive actually, would you mind private messaging me some details on your set-up so as not to flood the thread? I'm working on a new bloom box now and I'm looking at a similar sized space with a 40w but I've been trying to make it work with calculations for ventilation and timing. It would be helpful to see a practical example. What strains do you typically grow, as I tend to grow tall Sativas with training? Thanks for your time Mr. Limpet :bigjoint:

KC :leaf:
 

spandy

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i have a 2x3x5 and run a 400 hps in a cooltube. It is possible bro!
That is good to know doggy. (but thats not the most important thing about you,lol).

Sorry, hope you got that, from a favorite film of mine.

Thanks guys, I feel alot better about what I have decided so far. I think I'm going to run with my original plan and see where I come out at. This is a personal grow, so I don't need humungo yields, just quality and enough of a yield that it last til next harvest. bongsmilie
 

KushCanuck

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I like where your head's at Spandy, get the grow up and running and feed my cannaphoto addiction :eyesmoke:. Happy growing man, best of luck

KC :leaf:
 
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