Is my entire 9 oz. White widow harvest lost????

joti

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I just recently harvested two large White Widows from my first ever DWC grow. I hung it to dry in a room with 50-54% rH and 72F. Took a little less than a week for the stems to snap. I have had it curing in the jars since 2/22/14. I read a lot about curing and, from the way I understand it, the optimal situation is 55-65% rH for the curing process to take place in the jars over a period of weeks. I also read that if the rH in the jars is lower than 55%, NO CURING is taking place! It said that your buds are too dry and it's too late to do anything about it. Well, I placed a hygrometer in one of my jars and it reads 38%!!! WTF???? Does this means that my whole harvest is ruined, and will not improve with curing??? If I could get advise from someone with knowledge, please! Peace
 

kermit2692

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Don't pay any attention to that number crap..imo you probably dried too long, I start curing long before the stems will snap..if the nugs feel very dry now and don't moisten up after a day in the jar, then yes you dried then out to much..if their is still moisture coming out of them then your ok keep it sealed up and only open it once in a while to make sure you won't mold..
 

smokecat

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what kermit said. But also if you are going to fuck with numbers remember that you need to leave that hygrometer in the jar for 24+ hours sealed to get a true reading. Does it smell like hay? how's it smoke? After 2 weeks you should be able to tell whether it's good pretty easily. Hope it works out for you dude. On the bright side I thought this was going to be a thread about mold. At least it's still usable even if it's too dry. Hash/edibles etc.
 

joti

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Thanks, but Yes, it does smell sort of like hay. It smokes and vapes fine, good up buzz, but what I want to know is: Has/Will the THC mature like it's supposed to, or is this the best it's going to be??? And what does the hay smell mean?
 

kinddiesel

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I cure it in zip locks on the way to patients houses , they swear its the most smooth smoke. fuck curing chance mold let it dry. then jar or bag it up to be smoked
 

vostok

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Leave the hygrometer in with the weed along with a handful of silica gel tabs, they do a goos job maintaining the correct Rh ...long term
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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i think your putting way too much thought into this shit man. i tried the whole cure bullshit hype and its fucking stupid...let the shit dry out then bag and smoke it. putting in jars when it is still partially wet just makes your bud smell like shit. i have tried numerous times and by letting it dry out real good then jarring has turned out great.

as far as the buds only being good for edibles/hash that dude is a fucking idiot dont listen to him. and as far as THC maturing that shit is all garbage info as well....find me documented proof that the chemical makeup of THC changes during this so called "cureing" process and i will believe till then its just a bunch of stupid shit a bunch of dumb ass stoner made up when they were baked out of thier minds..

i hang my buds up for about 7-12 days...when i can roll a joint and smoke it it all goes into jars...i open the jars the next tday and if i feel any moisture i hang em up for another couple days. you want your bud dry enough to smoke before you put it in the jars.
 

joti

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Thanks for the reply, Retired. You're right about the bullshit - everything I read said dry until the stems snaps, that's exactly what I did, then I put them in the jars. I haven't seen any evidence of any kind of humidity whatsoever in the jars, no moisture on the lids, nothing. I'm still wondering, does anyone know if adding those Boveda 62% gel packs would help?
 

smokecat

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i think your putting way too much thought into this shit man. i tried the whole cure bullshit hype and its fucking stupid...let the shit dry out then bag and smoke it. putting in jars when it is still partially wet just makes your bud smell like shit. i have tried numerous times and by letting it dry out real good then jarring has turned out great.

as far as the buds only being good for edibles/hash that dude is a fucking idiot dont listen to him. and as far as THC maturing that shit is all garbage info as well....find me documented proof that the chemical makeup of THC changes during this so called "cureing" process and i will believe till then its just a bunch of stupid shit a bunch of dumb ass stoner made up when they were baked out of thier minds..

i hang my buds up for about 7-12 days...when i can roll a joint and smoke it it all goes into jars...i open the jars the next tday and if i feel any moisture i hang em up for another couple days. you want your bud dry enough to smoke before you put it in the jars.
Well thanks dude. I'm definitely not a moron, nice to meet you. I didn't say that his buds are only good for edibles/hash- I said in the case that they are too dry and nasty to smoke/sell/"donate"(I assume 9oz is not for personal use), he still has options to recoup some money. And if, as he said, it smells like hay he would have a tough time finding any takers where I am. I don't personally cure for an extended time, but I have in the past and I will say that cured bud tastes smoother. Whether the THC does anything spectacular I leave to the scientists to debate.

PS from your description of your process it sounds like you are curing anyway, so I don't know what you are going on about. No one said to put partially wet bud in a jar. Peace.
 

ganjaman87

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I think that only less than avg genetics need a cure.....I've grown great stuff that smokes GREAT and tastes GREAT just after 4 days of drying....then I have grown OK stuff that smells like ass after 4 days drying lol
 

smokecat

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Thanks for the reply, Retired. You're right about the bullshit - everything I read said dry until the stems snaps, that's exactly what I did, then I put them in the jars. I haven't seen any evidence of any kind of humidity whatsoever in the jars, no moisture on the lids, nothing. I'm still wondering, does anyone know if adding those Boveda 62% gel packs would help?
Hey man
You don't want the stems ot snap like a dry twig. It really takes a couple of grows to get it perfect. The hay smell isn't going to kill you, and if you leave that hygrometer in there 24 hours and still hit 38" try adding some moisture back in with some fan leaves. A lot of times you can get the hay smell to fade out. If it gets you high and people like smoking it then I wouldn't stress too much. Good luck.
 

smokecat

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I think that only less than avg genetics need a cure.....I've grown great stuff that smokes GREAT and tastes GREAT just after 4 days of drying....then I have grown OK stuff that smells like ass after 4 days drying lol
That's definitely true.
 

smokecat

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Thanks for the reply, Retired. You're right about the bullshit - everything I read said dry until the stems snaps, that's exactly what I did, then I put them in the jars. I haven't seen any evidence of any kind of humidity whatsoever in the jars, no moisture on the lids, nothing. I'm still wondering, does anyone know if adding those Boveda 62% gel packs would help?
Those boveda packs sound like an interesting idea, I've never seen them before now. I don't see how it could hurt, try it on one oz.
 

joti

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smokecat, its good, couple friends that smoked it loved it, and wanted to buy zips. I actually did grow it for personal use, but it being my first grow, I vegged way too long and got two huge plants. The 9 zips is really just the actual buds, that doesn't include the several jars of popcorn I got off a second harvest. I'm just trying to figure out if it's going to get better if I keep it jarred for a month or not.
 

kermit2692

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This thread is full of misinformation from people who can't figure out how to properly cure their pot..yes you don't have to do it as long as some hype like a month long, a week ten days is good, but the reason is multifold..sweating the buds causes an even dry so you don't have wet stems and over dry bud at the surface. Also slowing the process down allows you to control at what moisture content you finally keep it, some of these people sound like they end up with crumbly over dry herb. I have also found that curing can highly affect how much chlorophyll is left in the buds, do a side by side with the same herb cure some a bit moist for long as you can and some quickly..the long one will come out gold looking buds the other will be very green. I do feel that the overall quality is affected hugely the longer you cure up to a point..people have not been employing this method for hundreds of years if it was doing nothing you are all either i'm it for the money and impatient or just can't figure it out..
 

kermit2692

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If it had the hay smell and is crispy to the touch it will not get better i'm sorry man :( I made that mistake my first run that's why I tell new growers to start with a long cure and short dry but be wary of mold and shorten the time as you get better at it..miss the cure completely you get green hay of average short lived potency..
 

joti

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Kermit2692, it sounds like you're saying I dried too long, but the potency is pretty damn good, so I still would consider my grow a success. I just don't want to make the same mistake again! To clarify, does anyone know what causes the hay smell and how to avoid it next time???
 
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