yeah the one on the farm basically tells it all. how many moms was kept, the conditions they were in and the availability of this exclusive clone only.Well fresh said it best lol.
The sour d was made by weasel by accident in nyc since then jj nyc had the official cut in nyc and has been using it since the early 90s so why wouildnt the realsour d be out here and have to get imported?
Again threads on icmag and thcfarmer will back up what fresh and I have said.
yeah it seems the many monikers seems to throw people off. weasel's and aj cuts are one in the same, which is also known as original diesel and gets confused for sour diesel. it's been also stated by well known farmers (claiming to see it with their own eyes) that a lot of people have been passing off original diesel as sour d to dispensaries in the cali med scene.wyte seems to know. aj's cut is the sister pheno that is closest to the " real cut". there was more then 2 pheno's that came from the accidental pollination, hence all the bs online.
from my understanding, aj cut is the original diesel. i am digging up some more info for the thread as we speak.Ok so the aj cut is the original diesel and not sour diesel then?
there is only one ecsd clone. most of the cuts being passed around are from rez's sour diesel. you know the real clone when you have it.
oh yeah, JJ confirmed what dude ^^^^ is saying too.The AJ that was passed to Europe as the "Original Sour Diesel', is def thought to be the Original Diesel at this point. I hold both the original AJ, and the OSD which was given to me by a well-known breeder who received it from Chemdog. For awhile we thought they were the same cut and just experiencing genetic drift... After multiple grows we're pretty sure that the AJ and OSD are different. I would lean towards it being the Original Diesel as Jah mentions above.
I find that the Original Diesel is definitely sour-esque, but the fuel taste is a heavy, dirtier type of aroma and taste. Almost like you picked up a shop cloth and inhaled it.
The AJ, which we got from Brooklyn in 04' and subsequently was released across upstate NY, is much more of a sour fuel taste. It's like holding a straw above a can of kerosene, and sucking in the fumes. The sour is so pronounced its almost sharp.
IMO, samples of OSD can smell similar to the AJ, especially if you don't have them side-by-side. But once you start smoking a bunch you realize that the sour note isn't as sharp.
Hope this helps clear the air a little bit.
Yes the cut i have is the Original Diesel clone, when i first put this thread up i thought the cut i had was ECSD cut but after my research and meeting up with all the big players in the game at HTC events and smoking this cut out with other ECSD versions. I can now verify this cut to be Original Diesel clone and not ECSD.
I recently smoked this cut with JJNYC and Lemonman and at the last Hightimes B-Real loved my O.D buds and also confirmed it to be the original Diesel clone. So basically it as has been verfied by a few knowledgble people.
that is a list that was comprised by another grower and not by JJ himself.I was just looking at jj's mother list on the depot and he has it listed Sour Diesel(aj cut) it doesn't say original diesel
I knew for a fact that the aj cut was in brooklyn in the early 2000s and this right there comfirms it and jj comfirmed it as well.from my understanding, aj cut is the original diesel. i am digging up some more info for the thread as we speak.
here's some quotes for dudes that are definitely in the know, basically confirming what some have been saying in this thread. not to take anything from the 2, but Jorgo and his buddy just sounds good when it comes to this topic.
oh yeah, JJ confirmed what dude ^^^^ is saying too.
i am pretty sure everyone or almost most are familiar with Jah hoover and here's what i said.
WHAT?I think criminal organizations and breeders dont mix as regularly we think. I think some of the people holding this cut in nyc arent down with this scene and dont talk about it.
WHAT?
You're saying that just maybe. . .there are people who are growing weed out there and NOT talking about it on the internet? Impossible!
Plus, we all know that if people post stuff on the internet, it HAS to be true. Its not like there is any reason for anyone to CLAIM they're the only ones with the "real" sour diesel!
The most interesting thing about Sour Diesel is that it fetched upwards of 6k a lb. My old bosses came from NY and they would talk about the prices and my eyes would just get bigger and bigger. I couldn't imagine selling a lb for 6k... I mean shit sell 2lbs and you got yourself a brand new honda. Might not be the best car but my point is you can't buy a car with the prices out here in Cali lol.