Is the praying leaves a bad thing or good thing?

AlmightyJumpman said:

my last post was about slow growth. She was stunted bad in my opinion but the plant doesn’t reflect that so much. Also haven’t watered in 4 days and they still aren’t drooping in need of water. I’m impressed honestly. You’re right, I may have the wrong idea of it all. I’m trying to be 100 by the start of flower when I don’t have to be. Once buds start forming, I’m sure you want your light to go as bright as the plant can take. But while in vegetative, high intensity light isn’t as demanding as flowering stage. I posted a pic of her on here like a hour ago, the set of leaves under the ones are praying, is that how they are supposed to be? That flat look or is it still supposed to droop on the edges slightly? I just got to work so im about to have the podcast on roll while I detail some cars

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Jjgrow420 said:

It's looking just fine in that pic
That's exactly what I do while I'm working. Just rip through some info and learn some shit while I'm doing dumb tedious stuff at work that is really difficult to focus on when I rip podcasts or listen to comedy or music I can focus in great detail because my mind is occupied learning something or laughing etc.
It's been at least a month or so since I've listened to it so I can't remember everything I heard so maybe I'll stick it on again after lunch and refresh it

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Jjgrow420 said:

It's looking just fine in that pic
That's exactly what I do while I'm working. Just rip through some info and learn some shit while I'm doing dumb tedious stuff at work that is really difficult to focus on when I rip podcasts or listen to comedy or music I can focus in great detail because my mind is occupied learning something or laughing etc.
It's been at least a month or so since I've listened to it so I can't remember everything I heard so maybe I'll stick it on again after lunch and refresh it

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Soil Growth said:

In my opinion,

Praying leaves are the plant's way of asking for more light.

Flat, wide stretched leaves are the plant showing the amount of light is adequate.

Droopy leaves mean too much light and the leaves are trying to hide.


If your little plant was water-logged, stunted and struggling, it didn't need much light.

As conditions improved, and your plant was taking up nutrients better and growing stronger, it became ready for more light. That's why the leaves began to pray and reach up for more light. You were doing everything right, and your plant was responding. Keep on that track!

As you go through your grow, keep an eye on your leaves. Try to keep them flat and happy. When you get a handle on watering, feeding and controlling your environment, with the right amount of light, your plant will grow healthier and stronger. And then start praying again. That's when you turn the lights up a little 5-10%. Until the leaves are flat and happy again. And continue on like that.

If you ever go too far and turn the lights up too high, the leaves will show you by drooping. Like they're trying to get away from the light. In that case, turn the lights back down and chill out for a couple days until the leaves look happy again.

In my opinion.

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Soil Growth said:

In my opinion,

Praying leaves are the plant's way of asking for more light.

Flat, wide stretched leaves are the plant showing the amount of light is adequate.

Droopy leaves mean too much light and the leaves are trying to hide.


If your little plant was water-logged, stunted and struggling, it didn't need much light.

As conditions improved, and your plant was taking up nutrients better and growing stronger, it became ready for more light. That's why the leaves began to pray and reach up for more light. You were doing everything right, and your plant was responding. Keep on that track!

As you go through your grow, keep an eye on your leaves. Try to keep them flat and happy. When you get a handle on watering, feeding and controlling your environment, with the right amount of light, your plant will grow healthier and stronger. And then start praying again. That's when you turn the lights up a little 5-10%. Until the leaves are flat and happy again. And continue on like that.

If you ever go too far and turn the lights up too high, the leaves will show you by drooping. Like they're trying to get away from the light. In that case, turn the lights back down and chill out for a couple days until the leaves look happy again.

In my opinion.

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AlmightyJumpman said:

Yes this is exactly what we are talking about. View attachment 5451164View attachment 5451165
I turned my light down to 65% annd bump my rh up by 5 so im at 75 RH. I’ll anwe how that goes, then I’ll turn it down. Just trying to expose the issue and it’s still doing it. My leaves are praying at big time at 75%. Maybe I should go a little lower on the power, it so many different opinions. I love it though. Everyone’s a genius in my eyes

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Soil Growth said:

In my opinion,

Praying leaves are the plant's way of asking for more light.

Flat, wide stretched leaves are the plant showing the amount of light is adequate.

Droopy leaves mean too much light and the leaves are trying to hide.


If your little plant was water-logged, stunted and struggling, it didn't need much light.

As conditions improved, and your plant was taking up nutrients better and growing stronger, it became ready for more light. That's why the leaves began to pray and reach up for more light. You were doing everything right, and your plant was responding. Keep on that track!

As you go through your grow, keep an eye on your leaves. Try to keep them flat and happy. When you get a handle on watering, feeding and controlling your environment, with the right amount of light, your plant will grow healthier and stronger. And then start praying again. That's when you turn the lights up a little 5-10%. Until the leaves are flat and happy again. And continue on like that.


In my opinion.

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Soil Growth said:

In my opinion,

Praying leaves are the plant's way of asking for more light.

Flat, wide stretched leaves are the plant showing the amount of light is adequate.

Droopy leaves mean too much light and the leaves are trying to hide.


If your little plant was water-logged, stunted and struggling, it didn't need much light.

As conditions improved, and your plant was taking up nutrients better and growing stronger, it became ready for more light. That's why the leaves began to pray and reach up for more light. You were doing everything right, and your plant was responding. Keep on that track!

As you go through your grow, keep an eye on your leaves. Try to keep them flat and happy. When you get a handle on watering, feeding and controlling your environment, with the right amount of light, your plant will grow healthier and stronger. And then start praying again. That's when you turn the lights up a little 5-10%. Until the leaves are flat and happy again. And continue on like that.

If you ever go too far and turn the lights up too high, the leaves will show you by drooping. Like they're trying to get away from the light. In that case, turn the lights back down and chill out for a couple days until the leaves look happy again.

In my opinion.

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AlmightyJumpman said:

You think I can start my mainline or wait until the 6th node pops open?

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chuckeye said:

Your plant looks perfectly healthy and does not appear to be praying excessively !

Even with the leaves up to 45 degrees from vertical it is still just fine....

As to the power, I use a simple lux meter app on my phone.

Use a conversion factor of .0125 to get the par value of a full spectrum LED.

Between the stage of growth and the appearance of the plant adjust accordingly.

IIRC at your stage of growth I would be at 30,000 lux.

Cheers

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Soil Growth said:

For sure wait! If you top too soon you'll stress out your plant and it will be all stunted or stop growing again. You for sure don't want that.

And while you're waiting, think about not main-lining at all. I know it looks cool and it's fun to mess around when you're new, but I think it's pretty unnecessary.

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chuckeye said:

The thinking about waiting until the 6th node is the roots are more developed and depending on how your plant is growing the additional height may be of benefit.

Then top above the fourth node and if mainlining remove the first through third nodes.

I prefer quadlining

Columbian Gold

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Cheers

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AlmightyJumpman said:

Beautiful, your harvest will be plentiful. I’m sure of it. Instead I’m going to leave 4 branches instead of just 2 starting off and go from there. How long did it take to get to that point?

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