Is this Nutrient Burn or Light Burn?

Cigarz

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Cigarz try not to over think the whole indoor outdoor grow. You are a experienced grower whether or not you have grown inside. You have a lot of knowledge. You dont get tht size and good looking of a plant from being a noob. So what I'm trying to say is everything you have done outside is the same as inside. Only difference is you get to control the environment in which your ladies grow and how much light she receives. Those are the 2 biggest things that you have cant control when doing a outside grow...
I appreciate your words man, just seems like indoor is a whole other world haha... Maybe its just the strain or something? idk.. :( I'm trying to replicate what I do outdoors... Same everything but doesnt seem like the same results :(

Ok so distilled is fine but just know that their is not a single ppm in distilled water so, she wont be getting anything from the water besides hydration. Are you in coco? I couldn't remember. Did you end up hitting he w the cal-mag?
I'm using Promix BX right now and then going with HP when I transplant them, I started from seed with rockwool, theres 9 plants and only the biggest one (blueberry.) is showing rust colored spots, the ALL OG KUSH and JELLY RANCHER look great. So even if I PH distilled water they wont get nutrients good to know, could have been my initial mistake? No still waiting for the calmag to show up, couple more days. I snipped off the 3 or so big leaves that were basically all rust colored and crumpled up ,figured they were doing no good for the grow. I'll take some more pictures today.
 
How can i adjust ppm?
W the distilled water? The only way to get the ppm up is to add nutes. But I would hold off on giving her food until the cal-mag comes in. Unless she is getting worse and you want too. next time leave those damaged leaves on her. What will end up happening is it (calicum deficiency) will start to show up on another leaf. It's no big deal just thought u should know. The ph up and down will make your ppm skyrocket or go way down lol depending on what you use. But she wont get any food from it.
 

Cigarz

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W the distilled water? The only way to get the ppm up is to add nutes. But I would hold off on giving her food until the cal-mag comes in. Unless she is getting worse and you want too. next time leave those damaged leaves on her. What will end up happening is it (calicum deficiency) will start to show up on another leaf. It's no big deal just thought u should know. The ph up and down will make your ppm skyrocket or go way down lol depending on what you use. But she wont get any food from it.
Well I was feeding it Frontrow A and B and PH up and down with Tap water. No idea PPM yet meter is not in. I'll go ahead and feed it calmag once it shows up and ill just give it plain water until then. The only reason I cut the leaves off was because I read that it could be fungal and spread, so I got scared lol
 

Cigarz

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I got my EC reader and my tap water as is, is rated @ 180-200PPM (hard water.) When I mix in my nutrients and calmag is 474PPM, then when I add ph up/down to make it 6.3PH and I get 543PPM.

WATER BEFORE GOING INTO SOIL:
Tap Water 7.14PH: 180-200PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG 5.5PH: 474PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG + PH UP @ 6.3PH = 543PPM

WATER RUN OFF:
824PPM
6.03 PH

This picture was taken today. What do you guys think? /e After sitting for awhile and filtering through the soil, PPM dropped down to 650, whats this mean? Does this mean I need to add more nutrients or calmag?
 

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Bukvičák

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I got my EC reader and my tap water as is, is rated @ 180-200PPM (hard water.) When I mix in my nutrients and calmag is 474PPM, then when I add ph up/down to make it 6.3PH and I get 543PPM.

WATER BEFORE GOING INTO SOIL:
Tap Water: 180-200PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG: 474PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG + PH UP @ 6.3PH = 543PPM

WATER RUN OFF:
824PPM
6.03 PH

This picture was taken today. What do you guys think? /e After sitting for awhile and filtering through the soil, PPM dropped down to 650, whats this mean? Does this mean I need to add more nutrients or calmag?
Can you tell me how much pH up you need to add (in ml/L please I am EU)? Thats a shitload 69ppm of potassium added to your nutrient solution. What is your tap pH?
 
I got my EC reader and my tap water as is, is rated @ 180-200PPM (hard water.) When I mix in my nutrients and calmag is 474PPM, then when I add ph up/down to make it 6.3PH and I get 543PPM.

WATER BEFORE GOING INTO SOIL:
Tap Water: 180-200PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG: 474PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG + PH UP @ 6.3PH = 543PPM

WATER RUN OFF:
824PPM
6.03 PH

This picture was taken today. What do you guys think? /e After sitting for awhile and filtering through the soil, PPM dropped down to 650, whats this mean? Does this mean I need to add more nutrients or calmag?
If you want to try and lower ppm of tap let a bucket of h20 sit out for a couple days and if you happen to have a air bubbler on hand to put in the bucket that's even better..
 

Cigarz

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If you want to try and lower ppm of tap let a bucket of h20 sit out for a couple days and if you happen to have a air bubbler on hand to put in the bucket that's even better..
No I'm trying to raise the PPM... it's only like 650 in the runoff, isn't 800 the goal for veg? My base is 180-200PPM.
 

Cigarz

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Can you tell me how much pH up you need to add (in ml/L please I am EU)? Thats a shitload 69ppm of potassium added to your nutrient solution. What is your tap pH?
Uh I add like 1-2 cap fulls in a 5 gallon bucket. Then I do 2grams of Part A and 2 grams of Part B FrontRow AG. Then today I added like 30-40ML of Calmag to the bucket. This is all in a 5 gallon bucket. The TAP PH is is 7.14, once I add nutrients it drops down to 5.3-5.4 or lower so I up the PH to 6.3-6.4 and add CALMAG which evens me out around 6.3-6.4 PH and around 800PPM.
 
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Bukvičák

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Uh I add like 1-2 cap fulls in a 5 gallon bucket. Then I do 2grams of Part A and 2 grams of Part B FrontRow AG. Then today I added like 30-40ML of Calmag to the bucket. This is all in a 5 gallon bucket. The TAP PH is is 7.14, once I add nutrients it drops down to 5.3-5.4 or lower so I up the PH to 6.3-6.4 and add CALMAG which evens me out around 6.3-6.4 PH and around 800PPM.
I got lost, are you in coco or in mix? Part A and part B isnt already one of them just calmag? How much is the cap 10ml? Why you adding calmag as last when it should goes in first? You are adding like 1,5-2,0ml/L of calmag, can you be specific which one? You measure pH after adding nutes, did you leave your nutrient solution to sit for one day just to see how “strong” is your tap buffer? Is your meter calibrated?
 

Cigarz

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Another that concerns me is the color of my stems, they are like a red color and the stalks got like black stripes.

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I got lost, are you in coco or in mix? Part A and part B isnt already one of them just calmag? How much is the cap 10ml? Why you adding calmag as last when it should goes in first? You are adding like 1,5-2,0ml/L of calmag, can you be specific which one? You measure pH after adding nutes, did you leave your nutrient solution to sit for one day just to see how “strong” is your tap buffer? Is your meter calibrated?
Ive said im growing in promix bx. I think part a has calcium and part b has magnesium, so yes it has a little of each... not sure how much the cap is i just add it until i reach desireable ph, its not much. Im using 3-0-0 remo calmag and i put about 40ml of it in with my nutrients. I measured ph before and after adding nutrients as i stated in a prior reply. No i didnt let the solution sit and yes all my stuffs calibrated.
 

Bukvičák

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I have probably found it. I doubt you need additional calmag since part A is 14% Ca and part B 5% magnesium
 

Cigarz

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I got lost, are you in coco or in mix? Part A and part B isnt already one of them just calmag? How much is the cap 10ml? Why you adding calmag as last when it should goes in first? You are adding like 1,5-2,0ml/L of calmag, can you be specific which one? You measure pH after adding nutes, did you leave your nutrient solution to sit for one day just to see how “strong” is your tap buffer? Is your meter calibrated?

As stated earlier:
WATER BEFORE GOING INTO SOIL:
Tap Water 7.14PH: 180-200PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG 5.5PH: 474PPM
Tap Water With Nutrients + CALMAG + PH UP @ 6.3PH = 543PPM

WATER RUN OFF:
824PPM
6.03 PH
 

Cigarz

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I have probably found it. I doubt you need additional calmag since part A is 14% Ca and part B 5% magnesium
If this is the case whats the issue with my plants looks like nitrogen or calcium issues... ph seems good and ppm kinda low... i will stop using calmag if you think i dont need it. I only used it once and that was yesturday. I hope i didnt give too much just followed others advise ‍♂

Also will adding that 40ml of calmag hurt my plants? Should i flush then a little and just use regular ph water?
 

Bukvičák

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I would say you just too much dicking around with pH up and calmag. Your food looks already rich in Ca and K, adding too much of each can lead to antagonisms. BTW Isnt ideal pH for promix around 6,0? I gonna link you nutrient calculator, put your values of each part inside and count potassium together than add 69ppm from your pH up and tell the number...
 

Bukvičák

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Calculator is down the page
 

Cigarz

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I would say you just too much dicking around with pH up and calmag. Your food looks already rich in Ca and K, adding too much of each can lead to antagonisms. BTW Isnt ideal pH for promix around 6,0? I gonna link you nutrient calculator, put your values of each part inside and count potassium together than add 69ppm from your pH up and tell the number...
How do I use the calculator when theres 2 parts?
 
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