UncleBuck
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You want whites to kick black people out of stores because you’re not racist?
is this the middle ages?
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abandonconflict
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Sorry, I live in the real world. What's next? Elves and orcs?
I imply nothing. Even private corporations must abide by law and obtain licenses in order to operate in public. In short, you simply started yelling some BS about innuendo and ran away from addressing your outspoken support of racial discrimination as a neutral and peaceful act.
Rob Roy
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I want people to interact on a mutual, peaceful and voluntary basis. If they can't, I'd appreciate other people at least follow a neutral indifference path rather than enslaving others like you want to.
Can you describe how forcing another person to serve you is consistent with a live and let live attitude and not a form of slavery?
abandonconflict
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Paying for goods and services is slavery now.
Welcome to Ancapistan.
Welcome to Ancapistan.
Rob Roy
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Appealing to an authority isn't the same thing as a winning argument. Your public property and private property mix up stands as absurd. Let's move on and allow you to save face.
Are you claiming you have the right to force a neutral person to serve you ?
Are you claiming that declining to interact with somebody isn't another humans right?
Rob Roy
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Weak argument. Doesn't address my questions you haven't answered either.
Paying for goods and services to be a valid human interaction based in equal right, requires the voluntary participation of both parties. If one party is unwilling, it can't be based in equal right. What is your argument against that ?
abandonconflict
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Pointing out that your fantasy utopia is not the same as the real world is not an appeal to authority. I also mentioned nothing about public vs private property. I mentioned public business, ya dingus.
Anyway I get it now. You don't know what words mean because you have difficulty reading. That's why you don't know what what consent is either.
abandonconflict
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Oh, you want me to address your loaded questions? This forum has demanded for years now that you elaborate clearly your belief that children can consent to sex with adults.
Rob Roy
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Except there ISN'T a public business. There IS private property though. Private property isn't public property. Don't be an oxymoron.
I do know what what consent means.
Do you know who who is on first first?
Rob Roy
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So, you're conceding the racist argument now and moving onto the false pedo allegations?
Gee, honey I think our sex is getting a little predictable.
abandonconflict
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We get it, you fantasize about a racist utopia where racial discrimination is considered neutral and peaceful.
Meanwhile the rest of us exist in the real world.
No, I concede only that our impasse is based on your rejection of reality in favor of utopian fantasy. I'm simply pointing out that your pedo tendency is related to your racism.
UncleBuck
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abandonconflict
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And a pedo.
Rob Roy
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You haven't been able to refute my assertions and instead have attempted to mud sling as if mudslinging is a rational argument. It isn't. It's usually a sign of a weak counter argument. Whether you concede anything or not, it is evident, you have no counter argument
Are you saying, you or anyone else has the right to force an unwilling neutral person to serve you? I'm saying you don't. Until you address that, which is the foundation of your ensuing beliefs you are acting as if applying force to an unwilling person to make them serve you, is the recipe to end the vestiges of slavery. That's really funny how circular it is.
Just because I recognize neither of us has the right to force an interaction with another neutral person, doesn't mean I like all the choices that other neutral people might make, so your racist and pedo allegation is just more of your tears substituting for your nonexistent argument.
It was nice that you stopped by, but next time bring an actual argument.
Rob Roy
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It could be. I don't like it, but that doesn't disprove any of my points.
Is forcing another person to serve you a peaceful and mutual act or is it more like slavery ? (You won't answer that)
Your antidote to cure the vestiges of slavery, to force some people to associate with others they prefer not to, carries the germ of slavery (forced labor, forced association) within it.
It is impossible to include something in a policy in hopes that you will also eliminate it.
If it is possible can you tell me how you can simultaneously force an unwilling person to serve you and by doing so, end slavery ?
No, obviously you can't or you would have.
I'm sorry for winning all the time. It's a little embarrassing the way I toss your lame arguments aside as easily as your cat spreads clusters of kitty litter all over your floor.
Rob Roy
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Rob Roy
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No, that's not my argument. My argument is neither you or I or anyone else has any right to force a neutral person to serve us or to associate with us. You've never addressed or countered that argument.
You are arguing for involuntary associations and involuntary servitude.
I am arguing for voluntary associations and self determination, and the elimination of involuntary servitude.
If you could counter that specifically you would have, but you never have, instead relying on innuendo.
Your arguments defeat themselves because in order to achieve the outcome you want, you have to use the method you think you are trying to eliminate. Which is demonstrably impossible.
You're welcome.
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UncleBuck
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Unclebaldrick
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If more Europeans would have refused service to Jews in the '30s, they would have all self deported. This would have prevented the Holocaust.
Rob Roy is just trying to protect African Americans the same way Goebbels was trying to protect the Jews.
Roger A. Shrubber
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the people who are being "forced to serve you" in your scenario are either employs or owners of a business. it's their job to serve you, within certain guidelines. if they're being paid to serve you, that's not force, it's their job. as long as you aren't behaving in an offensive way, they have no reason to deny you service. owners usually won't deny people service for capricious reasons, as it's very bad for business....you keep coming up with scenarios that make little to no sense....if you don't want to "serve" people, why are you in a service industry? it's right in the name....
if i go into a store, and am not being rude or acting in an offensive manner, i have a right to be waited on, to be "served" by the employ who is in a "service" industry...how is that in any way forcing anyone to do anything? except the job they're getting paid to do....
and why does it matter what color any of us are? i don't care what ethnicity the person working in a store is, i care whether they answer my questions civilly, and sell me what i want in a timely fashion....they can have 4 titties and a tail for all i fucking care, as long as they're doing their job....
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