is this the middle ages?

abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
Force? Yes, if a person begins to conduct commerce, without seeking or gaining licensure permission, force will enter the equation.
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Therefore it's literally slavery when black people buy stuff...
Rob Roy said:
A man lives alone on an island and plants a garden.

Is the fruit of the garden his property ? Is his hut his property?

Is his handmade straw woman that he bangs whistfully on dark and stormy nights while wasted on coconut wine his ?
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Notice how your only example is a fantasy fiction that reflects yet again your disdain for reality.

This whole exchange began because of your asinine belief that civil rights violate the NAP and that racial discrimination is a neutral and peaceful act.
Rob Roy said:
Sometimes, government laws align with something that already exists. That is not the same thing as saying that a central coercion based government is the origin of those things.

For instance, murder, assault and theft would all be wrong, whether government said they were or not. Funny thing is, government exempts itself from guilt when THEY commit those acts.
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Cool story racist pedo. Who is forcing you to obtain a business license?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Rob Roy said:
A man lives alone on an island and plants a garden.

Is the fruit of the garden his property ? Is his hut his property?

Is his handmade straw woman that he bangs whistfully on dark and stormy nights while wasted on coconut wine his ?
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Does he own the island?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Budley Doright said:
Sorry if I confused you, seemed pretty clear to me but I did just smoke my Saturday morning fatty. Yes you right I do have to agree if I want to serve the public or I could decide not to agree and forgo the business. You must keep in mind I made that choice knowing I had to comply, correct? And there you go again, I don’t wish to eliminate forced compliance at all and have not said I do, you have, on the other hand stated you would eliminate all forced compliance. How do you force people not to manipulate if there is no forced compliance to not manipulate? Hope for the best? I for one feel forced compliance is a good thing in certain situations and can show you why and how it works but you on the other hand have not shown how a non forced compliant world would. Again please answer the questions I put forth. Hurry I don’t have all day, I have things I’m forced to do today, like get more pellets for the stove, I’m a slave to my stove :(.
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If you don't want to eliminate forced compliance, you can never ensure equality / consensual human interactions since the two concepts are polar opposites.

When you attempt to use forced compliance as a basis for a relationship, it becomes part of the equation and doesn't conveniently disappear when examining the circumstances.

Pellet stove? Not me. Wood stove. Still hand split most of it.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
That's a good point, which doesn't buttress your argument or refute mine.
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Sure it does. You're crying about how the government is forcing, subjugating and enslaving you, when in fact you are the primary beneficiary of government force.

It's so much in your favor that you don't even have to work for a living. Yet still you bemoan the right of racial minorities to participate in the economy.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Sure it does. You're crying about how the government is forcing, subjugating and enslaving you, when in fact you are the primary beneficiary of government force.

It's so much in your favor that you don't even have to work for a living.
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If you saw the pile of wood I have to process later today, you'd have a better understanding of what work is, city boy.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Sure it does. You're crying about how the government is forcing, subjugating and enslaving you, when in fact you are the primary beneficiary of government force.

It's so much in your favor that you don't even have to work for a living. Yet still you bemoan the right of racial minorities to participate in the economy.
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That's a blatant strawman. I DON'T bemoan racial minorities "participating in the economy".

I've stated many times that laws which prevented people of different races who wished to interact from doing so, were heinous. They were heinous because they removed the consent of the involved parties and replaced it with an edict from a central authority.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
That's a blatant strawman. I DON'T bemoan racial minorities "participating in the economy".

I've stated many times that laws which prevented people of different races who wished to interact from doing so, were heinous. They were heinous because they removed the consent of the involved parties and replaced it with an edict from a central authority.
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No you didn't. You have been repeating incessantly that racial discrimination is a neutral and peaceful act. You have only decried the "use of force to compel business owners to serve" anyone they would refuse. This is your first mention of the opposite.

Get chopping, pedo.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
You seem upset about such a simple chore. Quit bitching about child sexual consent law and get chopping.
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Funny thing is, my personal preferences are that people don't have relations in mismatched ages and that people don't hold racist beliefs etc.

Except, I don't have any right to force my personal preferences on other people, like you think you do. Doesn't forcing your personal preferences on other neutral people negate "equality and consent" ? Why, yes it does.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
I don't have any right to force my personal preferences on other people
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Then quit pushing your extreme right-wing beliefs on us all. It's been years now that you have been derailing threads and in all the years I have seen no more than a few people vaguely agree with any part of it.

Your arguments against child sexual consent laws in particular are extremely unwelcome.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Rob Roy said:
Also, I assume it was government policy in the Sandy Hook schools to disallow people to be armed, so the people killed were not being allowed to defend themselves were they ?
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What a dick statement.
I live in Newtown, CT, of which Sandy Hook is a part of. (My kid attended that school), and if you think 1st grade teachers should have the right, or duty to arm themselves to defend their students, you are a very fucked up individual, and a part of what is fucking wrong with this country.
Oh, I don't know where the fuck you live, but in CT, we do not fund our school systems with money from the sale of guns.
I guess you pulled that one out of your ass.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Therefore it's literally slavery when black people buy stuff...

Notice how your only example is a fantasy fiction that reflects yet again your disdain for reality.

This whole exchange began because of your asinine belief that civil rights violate the NAP and that racial discrimination is a neutral and peaceful act.

Cool story racist pedo. Who is forcing you to obtain a business license?
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Is forcing another person to interact with you, when they prefer not to a peaceful and neutral act ? No, it isn't.

Your argument has been refuted.

My disdain is for central coercion based authorities, not for "minorities". Try to keep up. Don't black people have the same right as any other person to determine when / if they will interact with another person ?
 
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