Islam...

Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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mindphuk said:
Yes I am misunderstanding, which is what I suspected and why I mentioned you mean something other than "third person perspective" which refers to the type of narrative when telling a story.
What kind of information do you suppose Mohammed had about the Jews and Xians that he didn't get from biblical sources? It's like when a movie is made from a book but change some of the details, it doesn't change the fact that the story was fiction.

You are merely highlighting your lack of knowledge about things you make claims about. You ignore historians like Philo of Alexandria and Flavius Josephus that wrote about the Jews in the first century. There have been independent writings about the Jews and Xians ever since, much of it written before Islam was introduce in the 7th century.

Just because you are unaware that something exists does not make it non-existent. This lack of historical documentation is only in your imagination.
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DID Mohammed get that from the Bible? I'm pretty sure you're wrong.


That stuff is part of the "few".

What is your problem?
Talking to you is stupid, it's just circles, and circles.
 
mindphuk

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Finshaggy said:
DID Mohammed get that from the Bible? I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
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Really? I'm wrong and that's your answer? What source do you think he got the information about Judaism and Xianity? Do you believe he was a prophet and learned all of that through revelation? Then I guess you are still a Muslim.


That stuff is part of the "few".

What is your problem?
Talking to you is stupid, it's just circles, and circles.
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Except that few is in the hundreds and thousands. Like I said, that just because you are unaware does not make them not exist.

Talking to you is like talking to an idiot... because that's exactly what it is. Funny how the same criticisms get leveled at you all of the time by various people but to you ignore it and proceed to blame your lack of knowledge and understanding on others. You can't acknowledge when you're wrong with a simple "my bad" and move on. You exacerbate your ignorant posts with faulty logic and misused terms and blame others when you are incomprehensible.
 
sso

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lol, just about getting rid of religion and then islam starts sprouting up..

prayers to get rid of demons that are allowed by "god" to operate (unless you become muslim and learn the prayers and kneel to allah once a day (I only require that you kneel (300))

sounds like a darn protection racket..

and "god" "allah" like some malicious spirit taking advantage of fools.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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mindphuk said:
Really? I'm wrong and that's your answer? What source do you think he got the information about Judaism and Xianity? Do you believe he was a prophet and learned all of that through revelation? Then I guess you are still a Muslim.



Except that few is in the hundreds and thousands. Like I said, that just because you are unaware does not make them not exist.

Talking to you is like talking to an idiot... because that's exactly what it is. Funny how the same criticisms get leveled at you all of the time by various people but to you ignore it and proceed to blame your lack of knowledge and understanding on others. You can't acknowledge when you're wrong with a simple "my bad" and move on. You exacerbate your ignorant posts with faulty logic and misused terms and blame others when you are incomprehensible.
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There ARE NOT hundreds of thousands of records that report a third person account of Jews or Christians.

That is a HUGE lie.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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Mindmelted said:
Islam and all other religions are all bullshit fairy tales written by a man......:roll:
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Not completely in agreement with you,

But I agree that the whole "Heaven/Hell/Savior/Jealous God" thing is a fairy tale. But religious texts tell us a lot about people that historical texts don't.
The Pagans were closer to the truth...And the Hindu's were like...Playing telephone on a tin can with god and his roommate :lol:. They figured some shit OUT.
 
Finshaggy

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I say the Hindu's and Pagan's were closest because they believe in what happens, and what they can see.
Instead of giving power to some random god, or set of gods.

They give names to natural phenomenon, and worship the power that it truly has, over whatever it has power over.
Ex:
Shiva-Is the Good husband, The Lover of Cannabis, The Lord of Dance. Creation, and Destruction.

They weren't worshiping a "God"...They simply created an INFALLIBLE idol of what they wished to be, and what they new to be true and inevitable, based on what they had collectively seen of the world, and worshiped it for the next 5000 years (Or however long).
 
olylifter420

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im pretty sure that is not right



Finshaggy said:
I say the Hindu's and Pagan's were closest because they believe in what happens, and what they can see.
Instead of giving power to some random god, or set of gods.

They give names to natural phenomenon, and worship the power that it truly has, over whatever it has power over.
Ex:
Shiva-Is the Good husband, The Lover of Cannabis, The Lord of Dance. Creation, and Destruction.

They weren't worshiping a "God"...They simply created an INFALLIBLE idol of what they wished to be, and what they new to be true and inevitable, based on what they had collectively seen of the world, and worshiped it for the next 5000 years (Or however long).
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Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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They were not worshiping a "God"

The "God" is a description of a natural phenomenon. And these "Gods" are still alive today.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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Some people even say "All your threads are the same"

If I'm flip flopping, then how am I saying the same thing over and over?
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Finshaggy said:
There ARE NOT hundreds of thousands of records that report a third person account of Jews or Christians.

That is a HUGE lie.
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You're a fucking idiot. You can't even parse English correctly. I said hundreds and thousands, not hundreds OF thousands. I already pointed out two historians that wrote multiple books about the Jews in the first fucking century. You're trying to tell me that in two thousand years since we haven't averaged at least on book about Jews and/or Xians per year? Look in the library, there are in fact thousands of books about Jews and Xians some about both. And quit fucking saying 'third person' when you don't even know what that means and you really mean something else.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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mindphuk said:
You're a fucking idiot. You can't even parse English correctly. I said hundreds and thousands, not hundreds OF thousands. I already pointed out two historians that wrote multiple books about the Jews in the first fucking century. You're trying to tell me that in two thousand years since we haven't averaged at least on book about Jews and/or Xians per year? Look in the library, there are in fact thousands of books about Jews and Xians some about both. And quit fucking saying 'third person' when you don't even know what that means and you really mean something else.
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In the first century????? :lol: :lol:


I'm definitely talking about before that with most of this. And there are not THOUSANDS, even if one guy happened to write a couple books in the right period.
There is NO WAY there are thousands.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Finshaggy said:
In the first century????? :lol: :lol:


I'm definitely talking about before that with most of this. And there are not THOUSANDS, even if one guy happened to write a couple books in the right period.
There is NO WAY there are thousands.
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Believe whatever the fuck you want. You have already demonstrated a clear lack of willingness to actually learn something new if it goes against your preconceptions.

Yes, first century CE, you know the time of Jesus. Both Philo and Josephus were writing books about the Jewish people back then.
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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Lol.

If you would have read the whole post the question wasn't "When was 1st century BC."

What I was saying that is the very END of the time period I am talking about.
And just because TWO people were writing books doesn't mean there are thousands.

That's just one more person than you said before...
How many books could they have possibly written...



I said "Few" because there are probably less than a thousand books about Christians and Jews, from the time of Early Jews, to the time of Jesus' disciples.

You still have not proven that there were more than "Few" books from the standpoint of what I said.

You are just hardheadedly arguing, about something that I would agree with if it wasn't in argument form...

SURE those guys wrote books about the Jews but that doesn't make me wrong in saying that there aren't that many texts like the ones by the guys you're talking about. And there aren't.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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there are less books about the myans, incas and aztecs then those you are seeking for... why so much hostility?

Get to know the country you are moving to man...
 
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