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Countnvp

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Taste is irrelevant if you properly purge you shouldn't have any taste other than terpenes. IMO. Also the second wash with iso will not be as good as the clorophyl will already start leeching into the everclear already on the material. I started using everclear and switched to iso for better washing ability and quicker evaporation.
 

Countnvp

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The results on evaporating the milky are in. The dish had spots of oil and alot of clear areas. I scraped the oil spots seperate since the purpose of this was the see what the rest of the stuff in the milky is. Came out crystal powder but had a amber tint and melted beautifully. So if there is any iso residue it must be so minimal it is insignificant. Any other ideas?
 

Guzias1

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yo. hey, so my results are finally in.

i gotta say, i attacked this wrong..

her are my procedures and results, everything was in freezer prior to extraction.

both were incredibly easy!


did a 3 minute rinse, shake up of buds and everclear. strained/filtered, set aside dish to evap naturally

2nd run with 99% ISO... let the buds freeze up again, then crushed them up quickly with spoon (BAD) my liquid came out a really neon green type of color. damn!! strained/filtered, set aside dish to evap naturally

let solvents evap over 24 hours in dark area.
came back to both, thick goooo stuff.


so!, after evap, things were extremely easy to purge, scraped up both, placed on parch, and vacuumed for a tad, got some shatter, bam, done.



i have to say, my first rinse came out pretty damn nice, not sure about yield, but happy with it :]

2nd rinse isnt even comparable..

its due to all that crushing :[


I would like to attempt this again but with same starting input material next time..

i'll get some pics up soon,

all in all, im stoked to have my first straight ethanol run down.

it seemed incredibly easy to purge the ethanol out, over the butane..

twas fun!

da pic-cha-chas


first Ethanol only runs! :]



 

Guzias1

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smoke report! Ron Burgundy Kush

[video=youtube;bTjlQshtPs0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjlQshtPs0[/video]

2nd wash isnt so tasty. me thinks its going to some medibles..
 

WarMachine

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Here is the one I made today. I probably used at mosttt an eigth of stems. Came out pretty good and tasty.

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Thundercat

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Guzia I don't have a vac either. That was one of the things that initially drew me to the alcohol extractions, I didn't feel like it was necessary. I also considered getting one and trying to make "wax", but now that I'm getting a nice shatter, or taffy texture I'm kinda over wanting wax. It seems like the wax would be tougher for me to dab with my rig and dabber without buying something different. The shatter is awesome though so thats what I'm working on for right now. A buddy of mine also just used some of my oil to make a VG infusion the other day for his vape pen and said it worked great.

Guz that ethanol wash looks fantastic man. The Iso wash has good clearity, but I'd agree is prolly better for edibles. I had some B grade stuff turn out dark like that a few weeks ago.
 

Guzias1

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Nice run with stems! Wow.

I'm starting to fancy this ethanol stuff. I think I might use this method fir my smaller runs. Looking forward to a 99% iso VS 190 proof ever clear run.

What kind of heat see you guys reaching without the vac? I think the highest temp I hit was 120, just for a few minutes. And about 30 minutes total of vacuum. So it went from room temp goo to shatter in 30 minutes with Vac. ...

Also. How do you guys do the initial boil off / evaporation?


I've been doing natural evaps in my grow closet. Seems to work over night.

I'm afraid of adding heat.. please share!
 

qwizoking

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Everclear is a bit harder to evap but I personally never heat..it can be tough waiting a day or too though on larger runs

Dark room and a fan is my preference... could probly do better though..
 

Thundercat

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I've been evaping on top of my dehumidifier. I am elivating my dish partially above the exhaust coming out the top. This allows the air to move under the dish, as well as around it. I havn't taken a temp on it yet, but the dish is just barely warm to the touch when I take it off so I can't imagine it is much over 105.(but i need to check this) It evaps in a dark basement with an AC filter over it to keep stuff out. After sitting for 24 hrs it is dry to a crystal like texture when I scrape it, and then I knead it into a mass. I might buy a little hand vac and make a small chamber to see if I get any kind of action out of it, but I think its very clean at this point. I never get and popping or crackling or anything, and its nice a golden color.
 

WarMachine

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Thanks Guzias,I plan on doing a Oz of stems this week lol. I use the fan to air dry as well, usually let it be for 24 hours (at least 6-8 hours) and then when fully dried I'll do the water purge for a nice fifteen/twenty mins to get that shatter.

I think for certain consistency you need to heat it (correct me if wrong). The way I get that shatter is from the heat, if you want that 5w-30 consistency you gotta heat it at a higher temp. I found a video on ISO Budder without a vac that I want to try soon.
 

qwizoking

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See I've found heating it hurts consistency, makes it not wanna be shatter at room temp. Heating in my opinion makes it want to stay a liquid ..I guess similar to you wax makers "forever goo" but that's just my opinion.. I've never really experimented with high temps to evap.. most I've done is like thundercat and blew warm-hot air at it
 

qwizoking

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Hmm the only time mine is like that is if I didn't filter it really good.. I used to get this grainy almost bark looking oil when it finished if I only used a metal coffee filter or similar.. mine is shatter at evap, if I try to scrape it up it will chip everywhere. I warm it slightly just to collect it then I have to warm it slightly to get some to dab..
 

Guzias1

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wow, cool info guys. i got into this heat idea really fucked up in the beginning, and its lingered wayyy too long. im going to merrily use lower temps. and find my comfortable low temp zone/times/vacs.


im also happy to hear i've been evaporating pretty similar. my natural evap temps are 73-85.

im so used to my vacuum. i dont think i could give it up.

hey guys!!!

i gots a question.. you all should have good experience..

so, alcohol is a crazyyy awesome solvent, removes, cleans all kinds of crap, destroys it!

and, warmed up alcohol kicks even more ass.

ok, my question, is cold alcohol safer on our extracts than warm alcohol? does anyone know if the warmer alcohol strips more terps? thc? etc.. or is it pretty much same effect, 15F to 100F. ?

im just wondering about the resin in a warm pool of alcohol, will the resin be effected by heat of it?

maybe this is another tester..
 

WarMachine

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Hmm the only time mine is like that is if I didn't filter it really good.. I used to get this grainy almost bark looking oil when it finished if I only used a metal coffee filter or similar.. mine is shatter at evap, if I try to scrape it up it will chip everywhere. I warm it slightly just to collect it then I have to warm it slightly to get some to dab..
That is weird.. I too need to heat it up to put on my dabber if I didn't no heat purge. Mine used to come out grainy too if I did the single metal filter..
 

WarMachine

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ok, my question, is cold alcohol safer on our extracts than warm alcohol? does anyone know if the warmer alcohol strips more terps? thc? etc.. or is it pretty much same effect, 15F to 100F. ?

im just wondering about the resin in a warm pool of alcohol, will the resin be effected by heat of it?

maybe this is another tester..
The colder the better, the warmer the material and ISO is, the more Chlorophyll you strip. I have done extractions with warm ISO and material and I noticed a slight change. More so my agitation time was shorter so it would be less"dirty" I would like others opinion on the matter too though.
 
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